Rate RAW 12/1/2014

[Prince Bálor]

One would imagine, but we'll see, this is the WWE after all.

Can't argue with that.

 

[Leo C]

Slammies are next week?
Oh filler galore (not that this doesn't apply to almost every show but still)

 

[Prince Bálor]

Slammies are next week?
Oh filler galore (not that this doesn't apply to almost every show but still)

Yup.

Seth Green is supposed to either host the Slammy Awards or RAW, I wasn't really paying attention. lol

Bork should be there, as well.

 

[Leo C]

Yup.

Seth Green is supposed to either host the Slammy Awards or RAW, I wasn't really paying attention. lol

Bork should be there, as well.

I don't even know what Seth Green is, actually. But no matter really, watching Raw the day after has the amazing benefit of skipping.
Plus I think I just read somewhere that Brock won't be on next week

 

[Prince Bálor]

I don't even know what Seth Green is, actually. But no matter really, watching Raw the day after has the amazing benefit of skipping.
Plus I think I just read somewhere that Brock won't be on next week

This is Seth Green. I think he was a host of RAW before.

Anyways, from what I've gathered, the last time I was reading rumors and news, Bork was being advertised for next week's episode of RAW, which is in Greenville, SC.
If he doesn't show up next week, then my guess would be that he'll finally show up on the 15th, the night after TLC.

 

[ShaRpY HaRdY]

Yup.

Seth Green is supposed to either host the Slammy Awards or RAW, I wasn't really paying attention. lol

Bork should be there, as well.

I read something that came out today or yesterday that said Bork was being pulled from advertisements for the December 8th show.

 

[Prince Bálor]

I read something that came out today or yesterday that said Bork was being pulled from advertisements for the December 8th show.

Well, that fucking sucks.

 

[Snowman1]

My thoughts:

What a stupid fucking opener. Reminded me of a TNA segment with 50 people coming out for no real reason except to get on TV. I thought about turning the show off at this point, no lie. WWE has no idea how to book an interesting opening segment. Even worse than the shit opener is it sets up a shit main event to close this shit show.

Tag team turmoil jobber fest. I still laugh when people try to hype up the tag division. How about a real feud for once? How about a reason for these jabronies to be wrestling one another? Why is Cesaro stuck with all of this bullshit? Dancing bunny raves, again, I nearly turn off the show at this point, but I trudge onward. But not before I reiterate that WWE is pushing a man in a bunny suit. A man. In a fucking. bunny. suit. Usos in the tag team title hunt? Who gives a shit lol.

First hour grade: Chavo could have provided an upgrade over this stuff

oh and Mizdow is fucking stupid. I'm sorry to everyone who marks for him being Miz's parrot, but it isn't funny.

Rowan vs Big Show? Jesus Christ. Can't sit here and pretend I watched it.

Ambrose & Wyatt is the only thing anyone could really be invested in at this point by my estimations

Good promo by Heyman, but it still doesn't excuse Lesnar's lack of appearances.

and we wrap it up with a pointless 6 man tag. OMG Cena attitude adjusted Big Show! Amazement!

this show was just as bad/worse than last weeks. fuck WWE. Sharpy you should really include 0 as an option so I can express my actual opinion on this show that brings literally no entertainment value to the table

Why did you watch this?

From the recap I read, the most entertaining parts of the show were
-Rowan carrying ring-steps from the back after they said he has an IQ of 149
-Having Miz ask to be Naomi's agent - as you said, a storyline for the tag division and finally one for the Usos

"While our openers do run a bit long, you know how it works, Austin, we tell stories. We tell stories in the ring and we set up those stories with talking segments. Nobody's interested in wrestling for wrestling's sake."

-Vince on the Network podcast literally right after this show full of nothing but wrestling for wrestling's sake

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Why did you watch this?

From the recap I read, the most entertaining parts of the show were
-Rowan carrying ring-steps from the back after they said he has an IQ of 149
-Having Miz ask to be Naomi's agent - as you said, a storyline for the tag division and finally one for the Usos

"While our openers do run a bit long, you know how it works, Austin, we tell stories. We tell stories in the ring and we set up those stories with talking segments. Nobody's interested in wrestling for wrestling's sake."

-Vince on the Network podcast literally right after this show full of nothing but wrestling for wrestling's sake

I didn't, I just skipped around. it took me 15 minutes to "watch" and most of that was Heyman

 

[Prince Bálor]

I didn't, I just skipped around. it took me 15 minutes to "watch" and most of that was Heyman

I'm curious to see what they're gonna do with DZ at TLC. He was put in a pretty much pointless 6 man tag match, and he pinned Harper. Cool, what's next for him?

They might as well put him in a match for the IC title at TLC. But that wouldn't do him any good. They're supposed to push him, not the opposite.

 

[Snowman1]

I'm curious to see what they're gonna do with DZ at TLC. He was put in a pretty much pointless 6 man tag match, and he pinned Harper. Cool, what's next for him?

They might as well put him in a match for the IC title at TLC. But that wouldn't do him any good. They're supposed to push him, not the opposite.

He still has you on ignore, bro.

Actually valid point though. Didn't DZ hit Harper with a ladder on Smackdown? Heard they did something like that to telegraph an IC title ladder match...

I don't get it either. They're wanting to push Ziggler, right? Then book Ziggler vs Rollins in a grudge match as the main event. Add a stipulation to it, I really don't care. It would make sense, as Ziggler was the guy who took out the Authority and they never were able to have a winner or a loser.

Since you watched the show, why is it that they booked Cena vs Rollins?

The issue with Ziggler vs Harper isn't just the "he's so far beneath him" part as much as there's no good way out of it. Either he wins the jobber belt or he loses to Luke Harper lol. They can do a dirty finish but.... why am I still talking about this lol. Back to NFL!

 

[Prince Bálor]

He still has you on ignore, bro.

Actually valid point though. Didn't DZ hit Harper with a ladder on Smackdown? Heard they did something like that to telegraph an IC title ladder match...

I don't get it either. They're wanting to push Ziggler, right? Then book Ziggler vs Rollins in a grudge match as the main event. Add a stipulation to it, I really don't care. It would make sense, as Ziggler was the guy who took out the Authority and they never were able to have a winner or a loser.

Since you watched the show, why is it that they booked Cena vs Rollins?

The issue with Ziggler vs Harper isn't just the "he's so far beneath him" part as much as there's no good way out of it. Either he wins the jobber belt or he loses to Luke Harper lol. They can do a dirty finish but.... why am I still talking about this lol. Back to NFL!

Ah, it doesn't matter. If he reads it, he'll reply. If he doesn't, it's quite alright. I just wanted his take on it, 'cause he's a true DZ fan.

I don't remember DZ hitting Harper with a ladder on SmackDown. And as much as Harper vs Ziggler would kick ass, it's not good to do that to Ziggler right now. WWE had him be the sole survivor at SS, why not push this guy into ME picture? I just don't get it. The issue here with DZ is... Neither a victory or a (dirty) loss against Harper would do him any good... Which is ridiculous.

My take on Cena vs Rollins is simple... Bork will not be working TLC (shocker), and with The Authority being gone, the anonymous GM wanted to make a swerve... As a result of The Authority no longer in power, all of their decisions have been undone. So, the GM makes a new decision and throws in this stipulation, should Cena lose to Rollins at TLC in a Tables match, his #1 contendership for the WWE-WHC is no more. They're gonna let Cena win the match, most likely (after Team Authority and Team Cena all get involved, I can also see Reigns/Orton getting involved) and then we're gonna get Cena vs Lesnar at the Rumble, while Rollins will be feuding with Orton/Reigns (Ziggler, maybe) for the MITB briefcase, most likely.

 

[Snowman1]

So the story of the TLC main event is "the fucking laptop wanted to swerve us".

Thank goodness NXT is there to keep the Network afloat. Revolution is going to rule.

 

[Prince Bálor]

So the story of the TLC main event is "the fucking laptop wanted to swerve us".

Thank goodness NXT is there to keep the Network afloat.

Yeah, pretty much.

Cena was just thrown in that match with Rollins only because they had nothing else relevant for him at TLC, except working with Lesnar... Which definitely should've happened.

The natural way of booking Rollins for TLC would be against Ziggler 'cause they were the sole survivors for their teams, the other choices are Orton and Reigns. All 3 of these men going at it with Rollins would have a better storyline/animosity... But they just had to throw Cena in there and ruin everything.

NXT fn' rules, man. NXT > RAW > SmackDown

 

[Aids Johnson]

Skipping this shit for sure. I am done with LD, it's legit 2 minutes of "show" per 1 minute of commercial average. That means all the wwe app, the pointless 20 minute intro, and all the extra dogshit ends up being 1 minute of worthwhile max per 2 mins of dogshit.

Thank god for reviews.