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[The GOAT]

Given Orton's 'mistake' by attacking Paul Heyman, would it not make sense to make Lesnar/Cena a Triple Threat featuring Orton as well?
Orton obviously wouldn't be taking a pin fall in the match.

There has to be some sort of tag line with Cena/Orton/Lesnar that they can use to promote the match, something profiling their rise from 2002 as pillars of the company.

I was actually thinking a month or so ago that if Orton and Brock ended up wrestling at Survivor Series, that maybe a triple-threat between all three men could happen at the Rumble to cap off both feuds. However, I'd prefer if the first time we see Orton and Lesnar inside the same ring (or at least the first time in over twelve years) wasn't in the middle of a three-way. But I'd certainly take it over another one-on-one Brock/Cena match. Irregardless of the terrible booking of the NOC rematch, Brock has nothing left to prove against Cena whereas Orton is a fresh hot new babyface and given how WWE promotes Cena and Orton as the two greatest superstars since the end of the Attitude Era, I would think they'd love for Lesnar to be able to say that he's ran through both of them as opposed to only running through Cena, face of the company or not.

 

[Red Rain]

I was actually thinking a month or so ago that if Orton and Brock ended up wrestling at Survivor Series, that maybe a triple-threat between all three men could happen at the Rumble to cap off both feuds. However, I'd prefer if the first time we see Orton and Lesnar inside the same ring (or at least the first time in over twelve years) wasn't in the middle of a three-way. But I'd certainly take it over another one-on-one Brock/Cena match. Irregardless of the terrible booking of the NOC rematch, Brock has nothing left to prove against Cena whereas Orton is a fresh hot new babyface and given how WWE promotes Cena and Orton as the two greatest superstars since the end of the Attitude Era, I would think they'd love for Lesnar to be able to say that he's ran through both of them as opposed to only running through Cena, face of the company or not.

We're in agreement for the most part.
My only contigent is that the Orton/Lesnar saga (not sure if that would be appropriate) would never end with Orton being pinned.
It would be nonsense for Orton to be pinned so soon after his turn. This leads me to assume Lesnar would defeat Orton, inconclusively somehow.
At the Rumble, where the aforementioned Triple Threat would take place, might be a setting for Orton to eat the pin but I'm not so sure that's wise either.

I'm not suggesting Lesnar not go over Orton, just that it doesn't seem logical to go over him cleanly when Orton just recently turned.

 

[Prince Bálor]

We're in agreement for the most part.
My only contigent is that the Orton/Lesnar saga (not sure if that would be appropriate) would never end with Orton being pinned.
It would be nonsense for Orton to be pinned so soon after his turn. This leads me to assume Lesnar would defeat Orton, inconclusively somehow.
At the Rumble, where the aforementioned Triple Threat would take place, might be a setting for Orton to eat the pin but I'm not so sure that's wise either.

I'm not suggesting Lesnar not go over Orton, just that it doesn't seem logical to go over him cleanly when Orton just recently turned.

Guess we'll never know about Orton vs Lesnar match. Such a shame, man.

I don't even think they'll do Orton vs Cena vs Lesnar. WWE's more into RINSE, WASH, REPEAT. There's no need for anything new, really.

 

[The GOAT]

We're in agreement for the most part.
My only contigent is that the Orton/Lesnar saga (not sure if that would be appropriate) would never end with Orton being pinned.
It would be nonsense for Orton to be pinned so soon after his turn. This leads me to assume Lesnar would defeat Orton, inconclusively somehow.
At the Rumble, where the aforementioned Triple Threat would take place, might be a setting for Orton to eat the pin but I'm not so sure that's wise either.

I'm not suggesting Lesnar not go over Orton, just that it doesn't seem logical to go over him cleanly when Orton just recently turned.

Guess we'll never know about Orton vs Lesnar match. Such a shame, man.

I don't even think they'll do Orton vs Cena vs Lesnar. WWE's more into RINSE, WASH, REPEAT. There's no need for anything new, really.

Just to play Devil's Advocate a bit, I wouldn't put it past possibility that Orton could be the one to defeat Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania.

Realistically speaking, their plans of having Roman Reigns defeat Brock Lesnar are anything but foolproof, and if Reigns doesn't get the push, then there aren't a whole lot of other viable possibilities. There was a big discussion over it on WF and I'm willing to believe there might be some merit in the idea that in case they don't trust pulling the trigger on Reigns yet, then Plan B is Randy Orton. I know Orton is already a made guy and all, but so was Brock Lesnar and he ended the Streak. This could be a similar situation to the Streak in that you want a younger, less established guy to get the big win to help boost their career, but if no one is available, you're sort of forced to go with an already made star. From WWE's point of view, as long as the feud is hot (and Orton could easily be booked to have a ton of babyface momentum going into this and the rivalry would be a fresh one that we've never seen before), it's an acceptable back-up plan. And besides which, Rollins could still end up cashing in on Orton after the match is over.

I'm not really in support of the idea per se, but I can somewhat understand their logic if they go this route.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Just to play Devil's Advocate a bit, I wouldn't put it past possibility that Orton could be the one to defeat Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania.

Realistically speaking, their plans of having Roman Reigns defeat Brock Lesnar are anything but foolproof, and if Reigns doesn't get the push, then there aren't a whole lot of other viable possibilities. There was a big discussion over it on WF and I'm willing to believe there might be some merit in the idea that in case they don't trust pulling the trigger on Reigns yet, then Plan B is Randy Orton. I know Orton is already a made guy and all, but so was Brock Lesnar and he ended the Streak. This could be a similar situation to the Streak in that you want a younger, less established guy to get the big win to help boost their career, but if no one is available, you're sort of forced to go with an already made star. From WWE's point of view, as long as the feud is hot (and Orton could easily be booked to have a ton of babyface momentum going into this and the rivalry would be a fresh one that we've never seen before), it's an acceptable back-up plan. And besides which, Rollins could still end up cashing in on Orton after the match is over.

I'm not really in support of the idea per se, but I can somewhat understand their logic if they go this route.

Yes, I guess you're right.

I'm all up for 'E pulling the trigger on Reigns, he can win it later or at next year's Mania or whenever, I don't really care for him, at this point.
But yeah, can't say I wouldn't love it if Orton defeated The Beast and then Rollins cashed in his MITB after the match is over. One can dream for sure.

 

[CFCrusader]

Does anyone really care about Lesnar's upcoming appearances? Guaranteed to be badass, but we all know it's gonna be Cena vs Lesnar number 3523423. Meanwhile, Survivor Series in Orton's hometown... sounds like the perfect time to do Lesnar-Orton. TLC could be time off, or feed Ryback to him. I dunno, make his title reign memorable so his eventual successor at WM31 gets more of a rub.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Does anyone really care about Lesnar's upcoming appearances? Guaranteed to be badass, but we all know it's gonna be Cena vs Lesnar number 3523423. Meanwhile, Survivor Series in Orton's hometown... sounds like the perfect time to do Lesnar-Orton. TLC could be time off, or feed Ryback to him. I dunno, make his title reign memorable so his eventual successor at WM31 gets more of a rub.

You're 100% right there.

But... RINSE, WASH, REPEAT. That's WWE's mantra. Remember?

 

[Prince Bálor]

As of now, WWE World Champion Brock Lesnar is being advertised for the following WWE dates:

-Dec. 8, 2014 – Greenville, SC
-Dec. 15, 2014 – Detroit, MI
-Dec. 29, 2014 – Washington, D.C
-Jan. 12, 2015 – New Orleans, LA
-Jan. 19, 2015 – Dallas, TX
-Jan. 26, 2015 – Hartford, CT

Source: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/528365-list-of-brock-lesnar-wwe-dates


- So, he won't be doing TLC, apparently, which is on December 14th. But still, it's something, it's better than not showing up at all.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Details on Brock Lesnar’s Return to Raw
WWE World Champion Brock Lesnar is expected to make his return to WWE TV on Raw next week, which is taking place in Detroit. The official show description, from the Joe Louis Arena website, is as follows:

“The December roster features WWE World Heavyweight Champion ‘The Beast’ Brock Lesnar and the main event ‘Tag Team Match’ between John Cena and Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins and Bray Wyatt. The lineup will also include Triple H, The Big Show, Sheamus, Mark Henry, Dolph Ziggler, The Usos, The Miz and many more! Card is subject to change.”

Source: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/533215-update-on-david-otungas-wwe-status