WWE Raw: December 9th, 2019 - LIVE DISCUSSION

[Jeffry Mason]

Or yknow they're the biggest wrestling company in the world and they've been doing this for 60 years so clearly they know what they're doing... but I could be wrong

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

Also why is AJ getting a rematch? what happened to no automatic rematch clause?

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

You saying you could be wrong, is probably the most greatest thing youve ever said, it means there is hope lool

 

[Jeffry Mason]

And I'm not saying he's the next Rock. I'm just saying go watch old Rocky Maivia matches. He was a super babyface and just smiled a lot, and people were either dead quiet or were chanting Die Rocky Die because that's how much they didn't want to see him wrestle and didn't care about him. Something obviously changed though. That's what I'm saying with Humberto. He could still end up being a big deal, it's much too early to tell

 

[Jeffry Mason]

And Meltzer said they brought back the rematch clause. Read the sheets, mark

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

he could be, but times change jeffry, this buisness is not the same as it was all those years ago, people have changed, their attention span is ALOT shorter, so if they see a guy who just losess then they will stop caring, and it shown, past several weeks his entrances are dead quiet, he lost oen to many times and people assume hes a jobber, he needs to win for anyone to take hims eriously,. and now hes winning

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

Lol i thought you didnt read the dirtsheets, so how do you know that?

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

I really...REALLY hope they give Aleister and Murphy the time they deserve

 

[Jeffry Mason]

Ok if you want a more recent example, people still care about Samoa Joe and Bray Wyatt even though for the longest time all they ever did was lose in every major match

 

[Jeffry Mason]

I don't really, but I read that daily rumor roundup thing that the wrestling bot posts

 

[Jeffry Mason]

And I've never agreed with you more. That match has all the potential in the world to be my favorite match ever

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

yeah, because Brays character got a huge refreash and is actually winning now. As for Joe, hes reduced to commentary and he could have been the top star in the company but they wont let him win and its gonna hurt him like it hurt bray, and i dont think joes gonna have his own fiend anytime soon

 

[Jeffry Mason]

I'm talking about a couple years ago. Bray was still mega over even with a slightly stale character and with every main event loss ever. Joe is only on commentary now because he's hurt lol. People still buy him and care about him despite constantly losing

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

SETH ROLLINS HEEL TURN CONFIRMED!

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

Okay fair enough, but lets not forget Joe was already a made star before WWE, and lets not ignore brays time in the wyatt family, fact is they got plenty of wisn and were super over, and since they were stars already they coudl afford a loss. But Humberto? he was on 205 live if i recall, practicly unknown, just a jobber as far as any casual viewer is concerned.