Vince....retires?

  • Welcome to "The New" Wrestling Smarks Forum!

    I see that you are not currently registered on our forum. It only takes a second, and you can even login with your Facebook! If you would like to register now, pease click here: Register

    Once registered please introduce yourself in our introduction thread which can be found here: Introduction Board


Death Walker

Better Known As King Of Armageddon | Trapped In Darkness
Joined
Jul 16, 2017
Messages
24,889
Reaction score
2,457
Points
118
Location
Parts Known Only By The Unknown.
Favorite Wrestler
romanreigns
Favorite Wrestler
therock2
Favorite Wrestler
stonecold
Favorite Wrestler
johncena
Favorite Wrestler
brocklesnar2
Favorite Wrestler
batista
I'll wait a few months of consistency before I consider doing it for at least one of the shows. The man gave us NXT's golden era where I watched every single Takeover and had legit some of my fav matches of all time, but running the Main Roster compared to a Weekly TV show that is an hour and having 4-5 specials a year is a different beast.
giphy.gif
 

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
59,775
Reaction score
12,811
Points
118
I'll wait a few months of consistency before I consider doing it for at least one of the shows. The man gave us NXT's golden era where I watched every single Takeover and had legit some of my fav matches of all time, but running the Main Roster compared to a Weekly TV show that is an hour and having 4-5 specials a year is a different beast.

When we watched the good NXT shows back on WWEF, those were some of the best times ever. I don't expect us to get it like that again, but it would be cool if we got close.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Death Walker

Rosie

Dark Side
Joined
Apr 16, 2016
Messages
44,547
Reaction score
19,976
Points
128
Location
New Brunswick, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
edge
Favorite Wrestler
dJvrW4y
Favorite Wrestler
kevinsteen
Favorite Wrestler
Se3BZPQ
Favorite Wrestler
q9gbHdQ
Favorite Sports Team
2DciFqq
Favorite Sports Team
OQcgyMS
Favorite Sports Team
coloradoavalanche
Favorite Sports Team
vCLYUUD
When we watched the good NXT shows back on WWEF, those were some of the best times ever. I don't expect us to get it like that again, but it would be cool if we got close.

I still remember Gargano v Andrade. First time after a match I instantly said "Yep, five stars." Then the follow up of Gargano v Ciampa. Genuinely, aside from Ciampa's injury preventing the proper conclusion, then COVID preventing the "One Final Beat" finale being live and in a proper match with the roles reversed, best storyline in WWE over the past decade.
 

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
59,775
Reaction score
12,811
Points
118
I still remember Gargano v Andrade. First time after a match I instantly said "Yep, five stars." Then the follow up of Gargano v Ciampa. Genuinely, aside from Ciampa's injury preventing the proper conclusion, then COVID preventing the "One Final Beat" finale being live and in a proper match with the roles reversed, best storyline in WWE over the past decade.

I hated Andrade but you and several others told me to keep an open mind. That match made me really respect a guy I didn't like before. It was awesome.
 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
231,635
Reaction score
71,795
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
  • Wow
Reactions: Hidden Blaze

Daddy Deville

Big D Energy
Joined
Jun 10, 2019
Messages
79,508
Reaction score
12,795
Points
238
Age
31
Location
Buffalo
Favorite Wrestler
dJvrW4y
Favorite Wrestler
iHVgAJe
Favorite Wrestler
eIHNFff
Favorite Wrestler
6SLLEQr
Favorite Wrestler
flCHARR
Favorite Wrestler
hasWyGM
Favorite Sports Team
buffalosabres
Favorite Sports Team
3lUNnUV
Favorite Sports Team
K12LIMS
Favorite Sports Team
T5Zw0Si
I still remember Gargano v Andrade. First time after a match I instantly said "Yep, five stars." Then the follow up of Gargano v Ciampa. Genuinely, aside from Ciampa's injury preventing the proper conclusion, then COVID preventing the "One Final Beat" finale being live and in a proper match with the roles reversed, best storyline in WWE over the past decade.
Agree 100% of Gargano/Ciampa
 

John McHenry

John McHenry
Joined
Jun 12, 2011
Messages
21,174
Reaction score
2,529
Points
113
Location
Ohio
Favorite Wrestler
dolphziggler2
Favorite Wrestler
mrperfect2
Favorite Wrestler
chrisjericho
Favorite Wrestler
brianpillman
Favorite Wrestler
shaneomac
Favorite Wrestler
stonecold2
So I was watching something the other day and they mentioned the #metoo movement.

Why didn't we get a wiff of this then? I mean personally I've always assumed Vince cheated on Linda, likely with coworkers. Every single women was okay with it and cool with shutting up and taking the money? I mean that is their choice, I'm just dumbfounded nobody got hit on and rejected the advancement and then just kept silent. I guess that's the desire to work for WWE, and even now I don't know of a women that's spoken up on it publicly.
 

Rosie

Dark Side
Joined
Apr 16, 2016
Messages
44,547
Reaction score
19,976
Points
128
Location
New Brunswick, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
edge
Favorite Wrestler
dJvrW4y
Favorite Wrestler
kevinsteen
Favorite Wrestler
Se3BZPQ
Favorite Wrestler
q9gbHdQ
Favorite Sports Team
2DciFqq
Favorite Sports Team
OQcgyMS
Favorite Sports Team
coloradoavalanche
Favorite Sports Team
vCLYUUD
So I was watching something the other day and they mentioned the #metoo movement.

Why didn't we get a wiff of this then? I mean personally I've always assumed Vince cheated on Linda, likely with coworkers. Every single women was okay with it and cool with shutting up and taking the money? I mean that is their choice, I'm just dumbfounded nobody got hit on and rejected the advancement and then just kept silent. I guess that's the desire to work for WWE, and even now I don't know of a women that's spoken up on it publicly.

Because speaking up even when there is "support" for it is always hard to do. There is a risk of harassment and people claiming you're "lying" or just trying to "cancel" someone, or just otherwise scummy behavior even if you are telling the truth. This goes doubly when WWE has a shit ton of resources where if you make a claim, then they have the resources to take you to court and say "you lied" and easily run a smear campaign on you, or if you take them to court, they can also easily bleed you dry.
 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
231,635
Reaction score
71,795
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
Because speaking up even when there is "support" for it is always hard to do. There is a risk of harassment and people claiming you're "lying" or just trying to "cancel" someone, or just otherwise scummy behavior even if you are telling the truth. This goes doubly when WWE has a shit ton of resources where if you make a claim, then they have the resources to take you to court and say "you lied" and easily run a smear campaign on you, or if you take them to court, they can also easily bleed you dry.
Theyd be released and branded "difficult to work with" i imagine.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rosie

John McHenry

John McHenry
Joined
Jun 12, 2011
Messages
21,174
Reaction score
2,529
Points
113
Location
Ohio
Favorite Wrestler
dolphziggler2
Favorite Wrestler
mrperfect2
Favorite Wrestler
chrisjericho
Favorite Wrestler
brianpillman
Favorite Wrestler
shaneomac
Favorite Wrestler
stonecold2
I get that but Cosby, and Weinstein were brought down. I understand the determint I'm not trying to minimize that, I'm more pondering why now. Like what was the catalyst.
 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
231,635
Reaction score
71,795
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
I get that but Cosby, and Weinstein were brought down. I understand the determint I'm not trying to minimize that, I'm more pondering why now. Like what was the catalyst.
N those 2 were on top a lot longer than vince
 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
231,635
Reaction score
71,795
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
+ Cosby got off on a technicality . Not exactly encouraging to victims now is it?
 

Death By Looch

Peace, Love & Fuck You
Joined
Jan 29, 2020
Messages
112,890
Reaction score
49,172
Points
118
Age
36
Favorite Wrestler
undertaker
Favorite Wrestler
arnanderson
Favorite Wrestler
braywyatt
Favorite Wrestler
vader2
Favorite Wrestler
yujinagata
Favorite Wrestler
bethphoenix
You also have to look at it like this. In Cosby's case, he wasn't on top of the Comedy pile anymore and many victims also weren't in the same industry. Weinstein, who was a big name, but has not really a "fanbase" to speak of, who would climb walls for him, since he's *just* a behind the scenes guy... Vince though, especially during the first #MeToo wave, was still pretty much THE "head of the table" of a whole industry, with loads of "fans" who would immediately try to destroy anyone who'd come forward with accusations.

None of these #MeToo like cases are the same and in each case there are different reasons for why victims might not come forward (or haven't come forward immediately.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Canadian Dragon