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(...So a TNA PPV isn't getting ANY attention on a wrestling forum? ...Oh dear! Things really have got that bad! LOL)

So what did ya'll make of Sunday night's Turning Point?


Anyone else note that Sabu actually got a better send off that 3D - WDF!?!?!?

...Underwhelmed with the actual 3D/MCMG match too.


IMO Micki & Tara's after match brawling stole the show!


Not gonna rip the entire show to pieces, but what I have come to relealise is that they really don't have any characters that I 'care' about and that the in-ring product is as poor as I've ever seen it in TNA.

At this juncture if I ran my own fed I'd only be interested in a few of their guys.... AJ, Joe, Wolfe, Pope &, Beer Money and even then I'm not particularly enjoying AJ & Pope right now.
 

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Their main storyline was having the guy who promises to kick people's head off suddenly become worried with concussions. It was just hilarious. Morgan talked about concussions and whatnot only to then say he would kick Jarret's and Bischoff's head off. Way to kill kayfabe.

TNA is so bad is just sad now. It's not even fun to make fun out of them now.
 

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When the Dudleys are in your MOTN, there's a problem.
 

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Doing a stand-up comedy tour apparently...?

So they crush the momentum of his awesome debut... Somewhat repackage him and stick him in a tag team... Grant them a title shot... And then give him a bunch of time off....

Something tells me the Hogan regeime don't exactly see him as integral a part of the roster as those that signed him intended him to be.


...And there's much of the IWC saying it was Danielson made the wrong choice of company when they signed their respective contracts. IMO, he need to get out of TNA before he ends up wasted almost beyond repair like Joe.


When the Dudleys are in your MOTN, there's a problem.

...Which (without bothering to micro-critique it) itself wasn't anything special.
 

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Eeeeeeeeexactly.
 

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It was a decent pay-per-view in my opinon. But the ending to the main event match was horrible. It was already pretty obvious that Jeff was going to be winning, but this just made things worse.
 

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Their three main matches ended didnt have clean ending. Normally people would be bashing an event just out of this, but with TNA, they dont even care
 

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Just watched it, ending to the Joe and Jarrett match made me rage. Like, really? Did he really need to bitch Joe out AGAIN? With the same fucking antics, the two Blue security guards interfering? I really don't have that big of a problem with Jarrett, he's been good on the mic and he's usually pretty decent in the ring, but this was bullshit. Joe's character is practically buried, not sure what he did to warrant this. Also, why did Angle randomly show up with a sling in his arm and beat the shit out of a car, yet then he's nowhere to be found for the next two weeks and even at this PPV where he had the perfect opportunity to return. Typical-TNA-PPV-after-large-heel-faction-is-formed though. The heel faction completely wins the first PPV, then at the next one, begins to 'fall apart'. Just like MEM, sigh. However, like always, there is some good things about the product in the midst of the bad (but no one bothers with those, of course). And Sabu didn't get anywhere near the send-off 3D did, not sure what show you were watching. The entire crowd was on their feet for that match chanting for tables, it was by far the biggest reaction.
 

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Team 3D got the best send off by the crowd itself, but if we are talking about TNA booking, Sabu did. He was the one who had everybody cutting promos about how great he was.

I might have been influenced by this column I read, but the author of it made some excelent points about this PPV I tend to agree with:

-RVD was paranoid that it was Tommy Dreamer the one who would betray him....yet somehow, just because they had a "hardcore" match and RVD won, suddenly Dreamer is one not to suspect from.

- Why the hell did the Congregation waited so long to turn on Pope? They even beat Abyss down before the turn. It was too "prepared". What would have happened if Pope had won the match before the turn?

- Cheating is just so common in TNA than Robbie E. cheating to win the belt was completely ignored by everyone. The announcers didnt even bother to sell disgust at it.

- Sabu's send off makes no sense business wise. They were hyping and praising the hell out of a guy on his way out of the company. Classy? Maybe. But it makes no sense in the course of the storylines.
 

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Team 3D got the best send off by the crowd itself, but if we are talking about TNA booking, Sabu did. He was the one who had everybody cutting promos about how great he was.
That was just Dreamer, Dreamer does that to EVERYONE. Anytime he picks up a mic he hypes the shit out of someone. If you guys listened to the commentators, all Tenay and Taz did were completely sell the shit out of Team 3D and their career like NEVER before, for 30 minutes, opposed to Tommy Dreamer's 30 second speech on Sabu, lol.

I might have been influenced by this column I read, but the author of it made some excelent points about this PPV I tend to agree with:

-RVD was paranoid that it was Tommy Dreamer the one who would betray him....yet somehow, just because they had a "hardcore" match and RVD won, suddenly Dreamer is one not to suspect from.
Idk, maybe he felt and old bond rekindle or like the whole point was to 'knock sense' into the other. Plus, he practically broke his wrist or w/e so he was willing to empathize. Who the hell cares.

- Why the hell did the Congregation waited so long to turn on Pope? They even beat Abyss down before the turn. It was too "prepared". What would have happened if Pope had won the match before the turn?
Uh, they didn't attack the Abyss, go rewatch the match. This is another stupid point, idk why you would agree with this or if you or this guy even watched the PPV/match. They always pretty much threw him back in. I thought it was Blue that they weren't then it later made sense. Even if they did hit him a couple times, it's to set up the later shock on Pope. It's done a million times in wrestling, especially WWE, nothing new lol.

- Cheating is just so common in TNA than Robbie E. cheating to win the belt was completely ignored by everyone. The announcers didnt even bother to sell disgust at it.
Didn't really see the end, but in response, it's because the commentators suck. They barely sell any finishing moves, their enthusiasm randomly diminishes in the midst of matches, look at the end of MCMG/Team 3D. People down-talk Cole, but neither of these guys can call play-by-play half as good as him or good at all. And Tenay is an old, ugly, useless fuck who really just needs to fuck off. Taz can at least be funny, creates some witty and subtle jokes, and doesn't completely butcher things as much. He's also the color, so it's easier, though. I thought he was gonna completely heel once, still kinda do, and be the traitor guy around RVD that Bischoff was talking about. Then Kevin Nash returns and goes to the booth to be the tweener or something for a 3-man.

- Sabu's send off makes no sense business wise. They were hyping and praising the hell out of a guy on his way out of the company. Classy? Maybe. But it makes no sense in the course of the storylines.
What? Again, who the hell cares. He's an extremely renown wrestler who's helped TNA on multiple occasions and could possibly be taken a long hiatus or leaving wrestling for good. Does it really fucking matter? Is the WWE gonna snag him? No, and even if they do, big deal. Honestly. This is the kinda stupid nitpicky shit which 'smarks' set and process about wrestling that is truly pathetic. Does this guy think the WWE should have just fired Ric Flair on the spot and escorted him out with security? Or does that somehow make sense in the course of a storyline in his deranged mind over one of the legends of a TNA group being forced to leave the company (against his will) due to losing a match (basically, the same thing).

Btw, I was mainly directing my post to that dude who wrote the column, if it seemed too hostile.
 

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Nah I can see where you're coming from. I just enjoy TNA being ranted about lol
 

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However, like always, there is some good things about the product in the midst of the bad (but no one bothers with those, of course).

...Yet you don't mention them either. :roll:


And Sabu didn't get anywhere near the send-off 3D did, not sure what show you were watching. The entire crowd was on their feet for that match chanting for tables, it was by far the biggest reaction.

The reaction may have been louder (I don't recall), but 3D were not afforded the same kind of respect and so forth that Sabu was.

MCMG didn't even get the fuck out of the ring for them to take their 'bow'.


Edit: As for the comment about the comentary in your following post; they sold the fuck out of them that way every time they've entered the damn ring for TNA!!!
 

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I wanted to see if someone would comment on that, but I actually HAVE mentioned them in pretty much all of my discussion posts in the Impact threads. I'm not going to repeat them, but I will right now since you requested. I agree with Montana that I was really enjoying Hardy's new character, he's finally doing something other than the generic face shit and TNA finally put their BIGGEST star as the center and he's running with it. He has a huge presence now. Pope is over as fuck again (regardless if it will culminate into nothing). Angle returned which in itself will keep me watching, I like all of Fourtune pretty much and ofc Flair. I mean, these aren't outstanding things, obviously from watching Impact last night it was a reminder that Russo is booking with the two fucking swerves and heel turns in one night from guys you thought were gone, lol. My standards aren't really high for watching, just a few good characters and good talents and good things are done with them every now in then, it's just that they have too much talent in one show that it interferes with that. I mean, Beer Money has been a tag team for like two years, and there is no off-chance they will ever get a shot at singles with that many wrestlers.
 

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I wanted to see if someone would comment on that, but I actually HAVE mentioned them in pretty much all of my discussion posts in the Impact threads. I'm not going to repeat them, but I will right now since you requested. I agree with Montana that I was really enjoying Hardy's new character, he's finally doing something other than the generic face shit and TNA finally put their BIGGEST star as the center and he's running with it. He has a huge presence now. Pope is over as fuck again (regardless if it will culminate into nothing). Angle returned which in itself will keep me watching, I like all of Fourtune pretty much and ofc Flair. I mean, these aren't outstanding things....

Sorry, I thought you meant positives to do with that specific PPV.


Re: Hardy.... A bit early for me to be declaring Jeff a "huge presense" as a heel - Tbh, I'm still getting over the let down of BFG and the rediculously crappy heel turn... I am wondering though; what exactly has he done to instantly be declaring himself the "Anti-Christ Of Proffessional Wrestling"?