I don't buy it. Why would WWE ever agree to this? They know the mask market they knew what they'd likely make seems like he's convinced himself otherwise. And "MOST" people don't know who Mistico is.
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SmackDown Live Sin Cara OVER?
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I don't buy it. Why would WWE ever agree to this? They know the mask market they knew what they'd likely make seems like he's convinced himself otherwise. And "MOST" people don't know who Mistico is.
Never heard of Mistico until he was signed to WWE so I don't see why he would own the name.
Dunno I agree there Rey's been unmasked, Kanes been unmasked no big deal.
Though they were probably both better established and favored more than Cara.
Also I don't consider an unmasking on Main Event as a big deal. He unmasked Hunico at the house show I was at last week and at the smackdown I went to last (either edited out or right angle)
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Rey has never been unmasked in a WWE bubble. They never admit it but then again outside a dvd anthology, he's always referred to as a WWE guy and had his wwe titles talked up.
I don't really but what he's selling. He stole the Mystico name from Hunico originally. He reportedly pulled a gun on Del Rio back in Mexico before. He refused to go to fcw. He refused to learn English which is why after the Chavo matches he was shit. He botched a lot. He also stopped a match because he jammed a finger.
Trips should slap himself after his first two major negotiated signings were him and Kong. They stole money and were the biggest wasted contracts and promo videos ever. Good to see Hunter has improved ever since, but boy he fucked up early.
Hunico can keep the gimmick or become a team with Camacho again, but theres no doubt he was better
I don't really but what he's selling. He stole the Mystico name from Hunico originally. He reportedly pulled a gun on Del Rio back in Mexico before. He refused to go to fcw. He refused to learn English which is why after the Chavo matches he was shit. He botched a lot. He also stopped a match because he jammed a finger.
Trips should slap himself after his first two major negotiated signings were him and Kong. They stole money and were the biggest wasted contracts and promo videos ever. Good to see Hunter has improved ever since, but boy he fucked up early.
Hunico can keep the gimmick or become a team with Camacho again, but theres no doubt he was better
Say what? I didn't say intentional or unintentional
But demaskings just dont matter as they tend not to change sales.
Didn't WWE trademark "Sin Cara" like a month before it was announced they were in negotiations with Mistico???
Yeah pretty sure WWE trademarks every name they can nowadays.
Not sure if they should just cut their losses with the Sin Cara character or give Hunico a different masked character but I'm not sure how that would work out. If Hunico stays Sin Cara, I want Camacho to take the role of Rey Mysterio and have the announcers try and do the same shit they did with Sin Cara. "Mysterio has gained a lot of muscle!" "Mysterio is looking better than ever!".
Not sure if they should just cut their losses with the Sin Cara character or give Hunico a different masked character but I'm not sure how that would work out. If Hunico stays Sin Cara, I want Camacho to take the role of Rey Mysterio and have the announcers try and do the same shit they did with Sin Cara. "Mysterio has gained a lot of muscle!" "Mysterio is looking better than ever!".
I agree it doesn't necessarily need to be planned out so much but come on.
Don't be a dumbass if I move to Japan I'm not going to be like fuck Japanese I'm going to sit in my cubicle (cause I assume cubicle work is the best id do) and use my computer to translate all emails from my boss.
He's starting to develop an Angle sense of dumbassery.
It's not completely far-fetched. And as much as the WWE prefers to give wrestlers a new character and new name, they also have a history of using pre-existing names and characters owned by someone else if the guy is over enough or they feel they can work with that. Seems a lot more rare these days though.
The costume and mask designs of Sin Cara seem very similar to that of Mistico. While there are some design changes for the WWE's Sin Cara, I think it's done o keep the character very recognizable to the pre-existing Mistico fans, who are a huge reason the dude was signed in the first place.
I could see some parallels between the Sin Cara and Ultimate Warrior characters, though there are some important differences too. Warrior came into the WWF looking largely the same as his character from the WCCW days. One huge difference is he kept the Dingo Warrior name when he started in the WWE, then changed to Ultimate Warrior.
I think the important thing is that these are pre-existing characters and looks that the WWE wanted and used. Repackages of sorts were done, names were changed, but they were very recognizable to those who knew the characters before their WWE days. Warrior did win his court case when he legally insisted that he owns the character, not the WWE.
WWE might be able to keep the Sin Cara name itself. They have rights to use footage, pictures, etc of the character as used in the WWE for DVDs, promotions etc, as with any character that moves on.
What I doubt the WWE can do is tell Mistico that he can't go back to his old character because it's too similar to the WWE's Sin Cara. I'm sure they could try, but if it went to court, I seriously doubt they'd be able to do anything but outspend the guy.
The WWE trademarking something doesn't necessarily mean complete ownership to me. It's quite usual for them to trademark wrestler names and concepts they don't necessarily own. I think they had Rob Van Dam and all his gimmicks trademarked at one point, but that's to protect their own exclusive rights to use of those for the duration of his contract. It didn't mean he had to be some other dude when he decided to work at TNA.
The costume and mask designs of Sin Cara seem very similar to that of Mistico. While there are some design changes for the WWE's Sin Cara, I think it's done o keep the character very recognizable to the pre-existing Mistico fans, who are a huge reason the dude was signed in the first place.
I could see some parallels between the Sin Cara and Ultimate Warrior characters, though there are some important differences too. Warrior came into the WWF looking largely the same as his character from the WCCW days. One huge difference is he kept the Dingo Warrior name when he started in the WWE, then changed to Ultimate Warrior.
I think the important thing is that these are pre-existing characters and looks that the WWE wanted and used. Repackages of sorts were done, names were changed, but they were very recognizable to those who knew the characters before their WWE days. Warrior did win his court case when he legally insisted that he owns the character, not the WWE.
WWE might be able to keep the Sin Cara name itself. They have rights to use footage, pictures, etc of the character as used in the WWE for DVDs, promotions etc, as with any character that moves on.
What I doubt the WWE can do is tell Mistico that he can't go back to his old character because it's too similar to the WWE's Sin Cara. I'm sure they could try, but if it went to court, I seriously doubt they'd be able to do anything but outspend the guy.
The WWE trademarking something doesn't necessarily mean complete ownership to me. It's quite usual for them to trademark wrestler names and concepts they don't necessarily own. I think they had Rob Van Dam and all his gimmicks trademarked at one point, but that's to protect their own exclusive rights to use of those for the duration of his contract. It didn't mean he had to be some other dude when he decided to work at TNA.
I don't think him going back to mistico is in question, it's his assumptions that he keeps sin cara