Raw 2018 #Raw thread, June 18, 2018: What will happen next after an incredible WWE Money in the Bank?

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Building Seth up for what? Outside of Elias, he's just been in this "open challenge" thing where he just wrestles cold unadvertised matches.

They’re not really building Seth.

He’s kind of a man without a direction. He was just going out there having matches until the Elias angle came along

That's exactly what it is, open challenges, a fighting champion, every week he'll take on anyone, and defend the title every single week. They are making him the star of Raw since the top "Champion." doesn't show up. Seth is the guy right now on Raw.
 

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That's exactly what it is, open challenges, a fighting champion, every week he'll take on anyone, and defend the title every single week. They are making him the star of Raw since the top "Champion." doesn't show up. Seth is the guy right now on Raw.
But he isn't doing anything but wrestle...that doesn't help anyone.

Just having matches isn't character building.
 
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That's exactly what it is, open challenges, a fighting champion, every week he'll take on anyone, and defend the title every single week. They are making him the star of Raw since the top "Champion." doesn't show up. Seth is the guy right now on Raw.
I love it when it’s real to guys.

Seth being IC Champ doesn’t make him the guy. He might be the hottest wrestler on the brand but Roman and Braun are still ahead of him
 

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But he isn't doing anything but wrestle...that doesn't help anyone.

Just having matches isn't character building.

In this way it is in away, it's building his character up as someone who's willing to fight anyone, who's defending his championship week in and week out, all over the world. His character is basically a fighting champion, the only one we really have right now in WWE it seems.
 

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I love it when it’s real to guys.

Seth being IC Champ doesn’t make him the guy. He might be the hottest wrestler on the brand but Roman and Braun are still ahead of him

It's not "Real to me." see that's dumb, I'm just saying that they are building him up as the guy who's there week in and week out, defending his championship, doing matches, while Brock sits at home on his ass not doing anything but 2 or 3 times a month. That's how they are building this and I like it.
 

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In this way it is in away, it's building his character up as someone who's willing to fight anyone, who's defending his championship week in and week out, all over the world. His character is basically a fighting champion, the only one we really have right now in WWE it seems.
More like a holding pattern....also burns off alot of would be programs for the rest of the year.
 
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What's different from the Famouser and Stomp?

Seems like more weight used in the Famouser.
 

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More like a holding pattern....also burns off alot of would be programs for the rest of the year.
And this is why i hate the “open challenge” gimmick.

When Cena did it 3 years ago it was awesome but even then, there were so many first time matches that were just thrown away on RAW
 
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More like a holding pattern....also burns off alot of would be programs for the rest of the year.

One match doesn't burn out programs lmao, that's silly to even think that. Hell seeing one great match from two people with no feud, could actually make you want to see two people feud. Hell Ziggler and AJ have had a few matches, I still want to one day see a proper feud between them two.
 

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What's different from the Famouser and Stomp?

Seems like more weight used in the Famouser.
Fame-Asser also didn’t disappear for years

Hell, it’s still being used today
 
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Well so much for me saying they are building up Seth... lmao
 
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Well there goes the defending champion thing. :whoa
 
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Bummer about Ronda, I'll be in attendance for Raw next week when they come here and I was excited to see her live.
 

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Ziggler getting another HBK 94 run with Big E Drew being his Diesel
 
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I mean, I'm sort of fine with it but also not sure if I am. I mean Ziggler right now is in away the top champion on Raw(only by the fact the Universal Champion isn't ever there) and I don't know if he should be? At least until he was built up more and better. Just what's happened since coming to Raw isn't enough IMO. This coming from probably the biggest Ziggler mark here.