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SAIYANS

Well-Known Member
No she didn't get a shit worth of a reaction until she pretty much ran through every diva. Before then you can't tell me Mccool got much and sometimes any reaction from the crowd esp when she was a face which is usually easier to garner a reaction when you're a diva than it is for a heel to get heat. I actually like Mccool and her ring work but lets be real crowd didn't buy into her big push.
Being the chick in a triangle with Noble and Palumbo, manager of the Teachers Pets which saw Idol leave after drug issues, as well as working with an even greener Maryse who she carried, Maria, and post injury Melina isn't comparable to:

- going over Mickie when she was actually fit, over, and not sloppy
- going over Cndice when she was over and making her injury worse to boot
- going over Melina when she was over
- getting bought in the E with an endorsement from Trish on TV.
- being put in the rumble and taking out Khali
- Glamerella

Yeah lay cool ran through everyone, but Beth was given much more of a push and far better talent to work with and get her over in their infancy, yet she still didn't get the same heat as despite eing hyped as lite Chyna.
 

Crippler

Prove me wrong
Hey, I actually enjoyed the Sheamus/Orton one last year :c

I'm not talking about the matches, but the concept of the HIAC it should only be use to end big feuds e.g HHH/HBK 03, not have a ppv with 2-3 hiac matches jus because you can't think of anything else.
 

Dale

Super Moderator
I'm not talking about the matches, but the concept of the HIAC it should only be use to end big feuds e.g HHH/HBK 03, not have a ppv with 2-3 hiac matches jus because you can't think of anything else.
True that, it's not even brutal anymore, it's just a glorified a cage match. Hell, i'd give the Elimination Chamber the edge of being the most brutal match.
 

PHX

Legacy Member
Being the chick in a triangle with Noble and Palumbo, as well as working with an even greener Maryse who she carried, Maria, and post injury Melina isn't comparable to:

- going over Mickie when she was actually fit, over, and not sloppy
- going over Cndice when she was over and making her injury worse to boot
- going over Melina when she was over
- getting bought in the E with an endorsement from Trish on TV.

Yeah lay cool ran through everyone, but Beth was given much more of a push and far better talent to work with and get her over, yet she still didn't get the same heat as despite eing hyped as lite Chyna.
I never denied that Beth didn't get over despite her chances all I'm saying Mccool didn't either until about like a couple months of her whole career and still wasn't as much of a reaction as she should have been getting considering she dominated the whole division for 2 years straight. Not making any excuses for Beth so you shouldn't for Mccool.

But anyways this should be pretty good and hopefully something big happens to end the show.
 

SAIYANS

Well-Known Member
I'm not talking about the matches, but the concept of the HIAC it should only be use to end big feuds e.g HHH/HBK 03, not have a ppv with 2-3 hiac matches jus because you can't think of anything else.

I blame surveys. People voted for the bs.
 

Crippler

Prove me wrong
True that, it's not even brutal anymore, it's just a glorified a cage match. Hell, i'd give the Elimination Chamber the edge of being the most brutal match.

i agree, and i'll add the tlc match aswell as being pretty brutal.

Miz's ddts are awesome
 
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