Raw Live Raw discussion thread, May 29th 2023: Money in the Bank Qualifying Matches set to begin

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I always thought he had great matches tbh, needs the right opponent for it to be a classic but I was very surprised seeing the Miz sucks narrative which I'd never noticed until this year but apparently has always been a thing
fwiw I don't mean to say he ''sucks'' , I just always found him boring and vanilla as fuck and having the literal same match year after year. All his spots are predictable by a mile and he hadnt innovated any new offense for a long time. obviosuly tho, that was just my experience with him. I have not once ever been excited about a Miz match unless im excited about his opponent. last time i cared was the ziggler feud
 

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Oh you didn't say it but the internet sure has been the last few months at least way more than I've ever noticed lol Alvarez rants about him weekly
 
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I thought he won everyone over with the Ziggler feud and then his IC title run after on Raw
he did, but then he didnt do shit and had dogshit feuds like with Shane and has been mostly in the exact same spot (do show, get person mad, lose to said person on and transition them to their next feud role).
 

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Fair enough Jeff but agree to disagree, I think he’s been great at what he does for awhile now and never have understood the hate for him.

I meant no harm with the calling out btw.
 
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Oh you didn't say it but the internet sure has been the last few months at least way more than I've ever noticed lol Alvarez rants about him weekly
Alvarez is kind of a tool :p he has ppl he likes to pick on

I do think most of the he cant wrestle stuff is because of Danielson tho lol
 

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Tbh I feel like this hate didn't ramp up until people started making stupid comparisons to MJF when neither are very similar lol
 

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Fair enough Jeff but agree to disagree, I think he’s been great at what he does for awhile now and never have understood the hate for him.

I meant no harm with the calling out btw.
I didnt take it as a call out at all my friend and I have zero problem you feeling differently here! If Miz matches bring you entertainment, thats all that matters really
 
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Tbh I feel like this hate didn't ramp up until people started making stupid comparisons to MJF when neither are very similar lol
lol blame Punk for that one
 

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Jeff Valley Driver said:
lol blame Punk for that one
I would but fans were doing it first lol but it def got worse after that line
 
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I dont really see the MJF comparison much either , Miz was never really a potty mouth smark killer, hes more of a big timer type. also completely different physiques
 

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like MJF is a throwback, Miz is modern WWE superstar from the 00s to a T. couldn't be any more different of an approach really
 

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They're just douchey heels but the comparison stops there. People are just obsessed with forcing any comparison they can lol doesn't even just apply to wrestling
 
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They're just douchey heels but the comparison stops there. People are just obsessed with forcing any comparison they can lol doesn't even just apply to wrestling
the ricky starks - rock stuff was a bit much too :fpalm
 

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McDonagh went back to his production theme, they must like him if they're ready to pay four figures every week for this.
 

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Should have been Chelsea :mjcry