Fifa World Cup 2014 - Deutschland über alles

[Snowman1]

What a downer of a finish to what a great match. Thanks for the intel Stop, it's hard to get for us non-BSPN watchers.

 

[RedDwarfTechy]

1 point is enough for you. You're tied with Germany in the lead of your group. If Ghana beats Portugal or ties with them. You boys are going to the 16 team round

Ghana has a point too, and so does Portugal so if ghana portugal draw - germany and US go through, if germany and US draw then they both go through but if one of them win and Ghana or Portugal wins, then it all comes down to goal difference for second place.

Hopefully that's not as confusing as ... fuck it, its confusing.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

What a match. US soccer haters eat a dick. this team is all heart

fuck the group of death, let's advance anyway

 

[Danielson]

Ghana has a point too, and so does Portugal so if ghana portugal draw - germany and US go through, if germany and US draw then they both go through but if one of them win and Ghana or Portugal wins, then it all comes down to goal difference for second place.

Hopefully that's not as confusing as ... fuck it, its confusing.

Didn't portugal lose by 4 to germany, and we beat ghana by 2 so we are +6 on them in case of a tie, right?

and we beat Ghana... so shouldn't our h2h be insta advance in case of a tie?

If that's the case, as long as we don't completely fucking suck, we are in.

 

[RedDwarfTechy]

Didn't portugal lose by 4 to germany, and we beat ghana by 2 so we are +6 on them in case of a tie, right?

and we beat Ghana... so shouldn't our h2h be insta advance in case of a tie?

If that's the case, as long as we don't completely fucking suck, we are in.

Yup the goal difference does favour US, but if US lose by 3 - 0 (not saying they will) and Portugal win by 2, then that would be enough. US beat Ghana 2 - 1 basically the goal difference between portugal and us is +5 (US)

The dark horses in all this is Ghana. If they manage to beat portugal and US lose to Germany it could very well be all over. And Ghana is only -1 in goal diff so that could easily change.

I am not too sure but I don't think h2h are taken into consideration, from what I recall the priority is:
1. Difference in points
2. Goal Difference
3. Most goals scored
4. Least goals conceded
???
maybe h2h is taken into consideration at that point?

All the math and stats aside, Germany and US both have one foot in the next stage tbh.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Didn't portugal lose by 4 to germany, and we beat ghana by 2 so we are +6 on them in case of a tie, right?

and we beat Ghana... so shouldn't our h2h be insta advance in case of a tie?

If that's the case, as long as we don't completely fucking suck, we are in.

we only best Ghana by 1

we are +1, Ghana is -1. h2h isn't a factor

basically if either game is a draw we are good. if Ghana wins and we lose GD comes into play

 

[Danielson]

Yup the goal difference does favour US, but if US lose by 3 - 0 (not saying they will) and Portugal win by 2, then that would be enough. US beat Ghana 2 - 1 basically the goal difference between portugal and us is +5 (US)

The dark horses in all this is Ghana. If they manage to beat portugal and US lose to Germany it could very well be all over. And Ghana is only -1 in goal diff so that could easily change.

I am not too sure but I don't think h2h are taken into consideration, from what I recall the priority is:
1. Difference in points
2. Goal Difference
3. Most goals scored
4. Least goals conceded
???
maybe h2h is taken into consideration at that point?

All the math and stats aside, Germany and US both have one foot in the next stage tbh.

I feel like H2H should be one of the most important factors.

We will see, go Portugal!

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

what is the #2 tie breaker?

Ghana winning by 1 and US losing by 1 means we are equal on differential

I'm hoping for a 'friendly draw'between the US and Germany. just take things easy

 

[RedDwarfTechy]

I feel like H2H should be one of the most important factors.

We will see, go Portugal!

The only place where H2H seems to be a thing is in La Liga (Spain) I remember once Real Madrid beat Barcelona due to h2h, they consider Goal difference tertiary (primary being points and secondary h2h)

 

[Danielson]

The only place where H2H seems to be a thing is in La Liga (Spain) I remember once Real Madrid beat Barcelona due to h2h, they consider Goal difference tertiary (primary being points and secondary h2h)

At least one league has it right.

 

[RedDwarfTechy]

what is the #2 tie breaker?

Ghana winning by 1 and US losing by 1 means we are equal on differential

I'm hoping for a 'friendly draw'between the US and Germany. just take things easy

From what i can remember, the next tie breaker is goals scored, so far US has scored 4, Ghana 2. So if they just win by 1 and US lose, US should still be ahead.

 

[RedDwarfTechy]

At least one league has it right.

Lol they get so much shit for it though, because everyone else uses GD.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

they value looking at things as a whole over one match. thus why they go by a league table and don't have a playoff system

 

[Swift]

'murrica is adavancing

WE GOT GOD ON OUR SIDE

 

[Danielson]

I get what they are doing, but it would feel pretty cheap to not make it in over a team that you beat.