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  1. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    By arguing against catering to real fans/casuals. It wasn’t the niche Indy fanbase who tuned into Raw Is War, Smackdown, Nitro and Thunder during the late 90s/early 2000s, it was the 5+ million who no longer watch anymore, who screamed their lungs off and tuned in every single week back then...
  2. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    Nope, Russo increased WCW ratings when it was impossible to do so after the failure and irreparable damage of Bischoff in 1999. And there’s nothing anyone can do to change that fact, numbers are concrete. No, you are. You want them to cater to less than 2 million smarks, over the 5+ million...
  3. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    No, those who do not watch ARE the target audience, not the hardcore fanatical base who already are watching. In business you never cater to a niche, you try to expand and get your biggest audience possible. My and millions and millions of people who stopped watching shouldn’t be ignore so...
  4. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    Then you have zero say when it comes to American wrestling. Boom periods are a National situation, then companies can boom elsewhere. But first they have to be successful in their country. Hulkamania and the Attitude era were American pop culture, then other countries got a taste on occasion.
  5. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    I am the audience, the audience for wrestling doesn’t watch it anymore, because it’s catered to a niche. I’m not apart of the niche. If you watch more than 4 hours of wrestling a week, various companies a week, then it’s obsessive. Back in the day people would choose WWF or WCW, some switching...
  6. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    I’m a regular fan they’ve turned away along with the millions and millions My opinion is 100% relevant because I’m the target audience, not niche fanatics. You’re so entitled that you think because you watch obsessively that they should cater to you, when in fact by definition they should...
  7. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    None. The biggest show draws only 2 million viewers, it’s a hardcore Niche fanbase And it gets worse from there with AEW and NXT.
  8. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    Of course the niche products aren’t for me, they aren’t for everyone really except a very niche. They hold no weight in the wrestling market and should not be catered to by definition. It’s fine that you like niche things and are apart of a niche fanbase, but don’t come and try to radically...
  9. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    Eddie Guerrero was getting 6.0 rating segments with Chyna throughout 2000, that’s the most money and exposure he’s ever drawn, with his Latino heat/mamacita shirts in best sellers during the peak of the business. You may like the rest of his career better, but that’s irrelevant to the fact...
  10. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    And again 30-60 minutes matches on TV have never drawn and have always turned away viewers. Flair, Angle and Guerrero didn’t draw from matches, they drew from story and character. Guerrero wasn’t having 30-60 minute matches at his peak, he was having 5-8 minute tv matches with Chyna at his...
  11. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    Respect from who? Only fanatics care if someone has workrate, regular fans don’t care.
  12. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    Not true wrestling fans, only obsessive fanatics put in ring work on a pedestal as it’s trival, the business doesn’t need workrate to be successful. During wrestling’s biggest periods no one cared about workrate. Every product has its niche, you have Star Wars fanatics who care about trival...
  13. RLStern

    Why a Workrate Prioritized Product Cannot Draw

    For the simple fact that great in ring work isn't something you can carry over for a period of time and is very limited. Lets say you have what's considered a good workrate match.... then it's over. what's next? what's going to draw the fan to the next show? There's nowhere else to go, what...
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