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  1. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Show was probably better for not having it. JR shouldn't be out of his commentating chair. Even back when he was in better health segments with him always felt uncomfortable because he's not a performer designed for bumps and the like. Really liked the booking of everything thus far, even the...
  2. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Crowd reaction to Rhodes was really good, they must be very happy with how the guys progressing. Muppets have been a bit of a mixed bag but somehow they've still managed to make most of the matches mean something even surrounded by the comedy. Surprisingly good job WWE.
  3. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Perhaps. It would no doubt help them just by being there, even if they were being jobbed out, but many too many cooks would spoil things. As it stands, the mid-card stars only have each other or main event stars to face-off with in reality. Ziggler vs Ryder is an example of the former, Orton vs...
  4. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    I'm not so sure...I think whilst it does have some validity it's just too easy an argument to make. Do you think they could be pushing the guys I mentioned much better than they are now? Because I think they're doing a damn fine job by using ring-time more effectively than I've seen in years. If...
  5. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Everyones ALWAYS going to think of guys they've seen and liked and ask why they aren't on TV. Fact is, there's not enough time. They fill the roster, the wrestle at live events, they wrestle on superstars, they get their paycheck. Look at the mid-card they ARE pushing. If Cody, Ryder, Ziggler...
  6. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Punk sitting down got a pop. Hot.
  7. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    I suppose it depends on whether you rated Matt before this 'event' anyway. I didn't so the concept of the ball being dropped with him doesn't wash with me. He worked as a Hardy Boy but he was still always just Jeff's foil even in the tag-team. No 'it' factor, no charisma, stale mic work, limited...
  8. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Good point actually though I wonder whether the impact would have been quite as large because the show surely had to be TV-14 or whatever still at that point? So a lot of the internet fans would have actually been 'go to the shows and buy into it all' fans. Troy, Cole takes everything good and...
  9. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    WWE got pretty good, pretty quickly, at utilizing social media to create hype and appease internet fans. Damn the Big Show has had some serious longevity. It just hit me how incredible it is he's still there main eventing and doing things getting us all talking at this stage in his career given...
  10. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Sheamus = special talent. Got the 'it' factor completely but a lot of the credit for his rise has to be handed to the high profile of his feuds. The more you throw him into the ring with veteran heels like Christian (whilst Sheamus remains face) the bigger he'll become. Can't help but feel like...
  11. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    Really enjoying seeing the SD! talent on Raw recently. When the top of the card is hot, which it is, you've got to build build build the mid-card and tag matches like this really highlight the superb job that's being done of making titles mean something and properly promoting the main eventers...
  12. Killz

    WWE RAW 31st October 2011 - LIVE Halloween Edition Discussion

    If the world was just Ziggler would be WWE champ by the end of the year. No-one storytells and sells like Ziggler in the biz today bar none.