So they aren't entertainers now

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chessarmy

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- WWE has come to their senses and didn't go forward with calling their wrestlers "Entertainers" and is still using the phrases "athletes", "competitors", and "superstars". However we still have to live with "WWE Universe" for the time being. While this may seem like no big deal on the surface, it is a very big deal to Vince and other members of upper management.

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Lol, this is kind of like when WWE couldn't find a name for the ECW guys. First they were wrestlers, then "rebels" and "vixens" then wrestlers again, then extremists, and then superstars.

Thoughts?
 

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Thank god. Though there goes WEE - World Entertainment Entertainment. :shifty: But really, why does Vince think he can get out of regulations by calling the talent something different? A rose by any other name, Vincey. And besides, "wrestling" is in the damn company name.
 

MikeRaw

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Lol, this is kind of like when WWE couldn't find a name for the ECW guys. First they were wrestlers, then "rebels" and "vixens" then wrestlers again, then extremists, and then superstars.

Thoughts?

Rebels? Vixens?
Did I miss something?
Vixens are the divas, and rebels never happened as far as I know.
That leaves superstars, extremists, and wrestlers, and wrestlers and superstars were at the same time, so they have really only used 2 different terms for ecw guys. Wrestlers/superstars and extremists. That's 2 compared to the 5 you named to try to make it look worse than it is.
 

Airfixx

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Why can't they make up their mind.

Maybe, juuuuust maybe, when it was previously reported that they were gonna start refering to the guys are "entertainers", the decision in fact HADN'T been made to start with.

Bottom line is WWE aren't going to do something which a fair few people were sceptical about. No heat on WWE here IMO.
 

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The whole thing might've been BS from the start, which is what I think it was, so the 'net is covering their tracks by saying it isn't happening because of some skepticism. We really should be taking these reports with a grain of salt, because it's been proven they're unreliable.
 

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Rebels, vixens, entertainers, superstars, athletes, extremists???

Uh, hey Vince, why call the people that you have wrestling.....umm, Oh I don't know........WRESTLERS because they, well, wrestle. It will save a ton of trouble.







It's things like this that makes me wonder if Vince really is a genius or not.
 

MikeRaw

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Rebels, vixens, entertainers, superstars, athletes, extremists???

Uh, hey Vince, why call the people that you have wrestling.....umm, Oh I don't know........WRESTLERS because they, well, wrestle. It will save a ton of trouble.

It's things like this that makes me wonder if Vince really is a genius or not.

Rebels? Vixens?
Did I miss something?
Vixens are the divas, and rebels never happened as far as I know.
That leaves superstars, extremists, and wrestlers, and wrestlers and superstars were at the same time, so they have really only used 2 different terms for ecw guys. Wrestlers/superstars and extremists. That's 2 compared to the 5 you named to try to make it look worse than it is.

Did you miss the part where I completely showed that all this is complete bullshit. They were never called vixens or rebels. Only wrestlers/superstars and extreists, and extremists is only used on occasion.
 

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^ "As far as I know" means you proved it wrong? Yeah, no. Stop defending WWE at every turn like a mindless mark and stop acting like everyone is dedicating their lives to trashing them. All Chess did was report the facts impartially. If you want to disprove what he said, go ahead, but "as far as I know" does not qualify and ESPECIALLY does not reduce it to "complete bullshit." Try looking at information impartially rather than going into it with a predetermined opinion. It's what mature people do.
 

MikeRaw

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^ "As far as I know" means you proved it wrong? Yeah, no. Stop defending WWE at every turn like a mindless mark and stop acting like everyone is dedicating their lives to trashing them. All Chess did was report the facts impartially. If you want to disprove what he said, go ahead, but "as far as I know" does not qualify and ESPECIALLY does not reduce it to "complete bullshit." Try looking at information impartially rather than going into it with a predetermined opinion. It's what mature people do.

As far as I know is an expression, but if you want it plain and simple, here it is:
Chessarmy was lying. WWE has never called ecw superstars vixens, rebels,a nd extremists were only used in the very beginning.
So the only names they have used on a frequent basis are
1-Wrestlers
2-Superstars

That's two compared to the 5 he named.

Oh, and as for looking at things impartially and unbiased, I do thanks. That's why I have no problem bashing wwe on certain things they do (example: Marketing to kids, keeping the title on HHH too long, tag division, etc).
This is no way biased, but it is fact. Chessarmy exagerated too much.
 

MikeRaw

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Proof of "vixens": http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/strippokerecw
Proof of "rebels": http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/42034/More-WWE-ECW-News:-Rebels,-Sci-Fi-Tonight,-Finlay.htm

MikeRaw, stop it. Stop being a damn mark, stop acting like the universe is trashing WWE at every possible turn, do your research, and look at facts.

That's not proof of vixens. I acknowledged inmy first post that they called the women vixens, but chess, in his first post, said it as if they called the male wrestler vixens.
Lol, this is kind of like when WWE couldn't find a name for the ECW guys. First they were wrestlers, then "rebels" and "vixens" then wrestlers again, then extremists, and then superstars.
See? He said it as if they were calling themales vixens, when they only sued vixen on the women. And, that "rebels" thing was actually from one of the first episodes of ecw, whic wwas over 2 years ago, and it did not stick at all. So it's not as if they used it all the time inthe way of "CM Punk in a great rebel". They listed them as that for about a week, and I would be surprised if it ever made it onto the show.

So, again, the only names that have ever been used for ecw guys have been:
-Wrestlers/superstars
-Extremists

Vixens was never used, and rebels was used maybe once, and only as a listing on the website, but I'd be surprised (and apoligize) if I could see any proof of it being on tv.

As for being a mark, as I said, I always try to look at any company without bias, and don't hesitate to bash wwe at all.

In fact, I find it funny that they have gone between wrestlers, superstars, athletes, entertainers and more for the wwe guys in the past month.
But when chess said "Its kind of like when they were calling ecw guys vixens, rebels, superstars, extremists and wrestlers", I had to point out that they NEVER called ecw GUYS "vixens", and to the best ofmy knowledge, had never caleld them "rebels".
And I'm right, except for one week where they were lsited as rebels.
 

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Really? Because I can read "then they were rebels and vixens" and know that he's talking about men in the former and women in the latter. That's why those two were followed by a "then", and why there was no "then" or "and finally" between "rebels" and "vixens."

And I forgot that what is listed on wwe.com is not real. Thanks for letting us know, though. "It was only for a short time!" It happened. Period. You've already been proven wrong when you tried to say that WWE never called them rebels/vixens, so are you REALLY now going to backpedal and claim you REALLY meant "on the air"? Prove it. Back up your statements. We put some actual research into what we have said here today, now it's your turn. Can't back it up? Then don't try to pass it on as fact.
 

MikeRaw

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Really? Because I can read "then they were rebels and vixens" and know that he's talking about men in the former and women in the latter. That's why those two were followed by a "then", and why there was no "then" or "and finally" between "rebels" and "vixens."

And I forgot that what is listed on wwe.com is not real. Thanks for letting us know, though. "It was only for a short time!" It happened. Period. You've already been proven wrong when you tried to say that WWE never called them rebels/vixens, so are you REALLY now going to backpedal and claim you REALLY meant "on the air"? Prove it. Back up your statements. We put some actual research into what we have said here today, now it's your turn. Can't back it up? Then don't try to pass it on as fact.


Again, they only called the ecw females vixens, and chess tried to pass it off as if they called the males vixens. If he was talking about both men and women, then he should've said so, but the word "guys" refers to males, and Chess said "it reminds me of when they refered to the ecw guys as vixens, etc, etc, etc".

So, I was just clarifying that for him. It never needed to get this big dude. Because 5 names sounds like alot that he claimed wwe called the ecw guys, when in reality, vixens was NEVER used as a name for the male wrestlers, and rebels was never used by the announcers... Only on the site.

Anyways, just drop it. You were right in some ways, and not in some other ways. But just be happy in your head knowing that they did indeed at one point print the word "rebels", and let this thread go back on topic.
 

chessarmy

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^ Its not a big deal. I was just trying to point out how many times WWE changed what they called their wrestlers