Your Champion Should Not Lose

[Jon Honcho]

Jack Swagger is the worst booked champion in years. He loses on both shows every week. That's actually another issue I have. Why is he wrestling so much? Champions on tv should be limited to squashes and promos. All of the best should be on ppv. Why would anyone pay to see Swagger now?

It's too bad. I think Swagger's an awesome heel and the promos about his greatness are perfect. The crowd hates him and wants him to get his comeuppance. That should occur on a ppv, not the same night in a match with the IC title contender. Sure, it makes Kofi look awesome but Swagger like shit.

You don't see John Cena....losing every week.

 

[JurassicBonez]

I was skeptical on his title reign since the beginning. The guy went from not being able to beat Santino and teaming with Carlito, to becoming Heavy Weight champ. So him being booked the way he is doesn't surprise me. Losing every now and then is fine, but when your racking up more loses than wins, your in trouble.

Jack Swagger is the worst booked champion in years. He loses on both shows every week. That's actually another issue I have. Why is he wrestling so much? Champions on tv should be limited to squashes and promos. All of the best should be on ppv. Why would anyone pay to see Swagger now?
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I like this. That's how champs should be. Unless they are going as a fighting champ (ala Rob Terry) or someone who doesn't back down from challenges, then they should be used sparingly in the ring.

 

[hbkfan]

im actually ok with this hes being booked as a cowardly type heel i think. where he loses but when the title is on the line if its keeps being done right i dont have a problem with it. jack has grown on me latley.

 

[maty619]

Out of all the MITB winners, eg. Edge, Punk, Kennedy, Swagger certainly needed the most build up and a more gradual push but no, he has the shortest time holding the MITB briecase ever. That in itself was an awful decision, but then, instead of trying to convince the WWE Universe that he has always been a main eventer, they deside to have him lose matches regularly. Whether it is a clean loss or not it is still a loss, which Swagger needs to avoid to get over as a main eventer. If WWE just forgot about his jobbing ways and pretended he was always dominant this title reign would have been great, even if it is WWE being its fickle self again it is better than this. Swgger should have been a dominant heel but instead they put him against the biggest, most dominant motherfucker they can find. This title reign has been an utter failure. Actually, I take that back, Swagger's promos have been gold, I think of this as a mediocre title reign.

 

[Colin Gimp]

Jack Swagger is the worst booked champion in years. He loses on both shows every week. That's actually another issue I have. Why is he wrestling so much? Champions on tv should be limited to squashes and promos. All of the best should be on ppv. Why would anyone pay to see Swagger now?

It's too bad. I think Swagger's an awesome heel and the promos about his greatness are perfect. The crowd hates him and wants him to get his comeuppance. That should occur on a ppv, not the same night in a match with the IC title contender. Sure, it makes Kofi look awesome but Swagger like shit.

You don't see John Cena....losing every week.

Ok i'm not 100% sure because I don't watch the show (lols) but I really doubt they're making him lose 100% clean every time (Get's a finisher done to him, get's pinned. No dirty tactics or interference built up to the pin) And if he is, then wow they're really trying to build alot of peeps

They have been establishing him for a while now. His program with CM Punk and Christian back on ECW were really good, and probably proved to the right people that he could do the job. He's been giving mic time to further improve his game and today He's a established heel in a rebuilding WWE.

Unlike Edge who was forced to lose to Batista every week and win against Funaki when he was SD champ. Swagger has been given the most important role in today's WWE. He has to make every guy who has a program with him look like gold and rebuild himself with his mic time. This is what heels do. He's doing a great job and he's the perfect candidate for it with his gimmick as most of WWE's talent is around his age and he's the only one with some serious credentials. That is until the veterans start poking their head.

Swagger is gold

 

[Axis]

The guy is more over than he's been in his entire career. He gets more heel heat than anybody else on Smackdown, except MAYBE CM Punk. That's the ultimate goal. Complaining about the means is pointless when the means is compatible with what everybody should hope for.

Contrast that with Mysterio's reign. The guy was on fire coming out of his tag team with then-top face Batista, and then picked up even more steam through the Rumble and into Wrestlemania. By the time he was done with his horribly booked title reign, he was a very over face, but he was not nearly as reliable a big reaction than before his reign. THAT ruined credibility. Swagger is gaining credibility and attention every week.

 

[Axis]

Somebody neg repped my post with the comment "you're forgetting Vickie." Care to expand on that thought for, you know, discussion?

 

[Jon Honcho]

Somebody neg repped my post with the comment "you're forgetting Vickie." Care to expand on that thought for, you know, discussion?

:roll2:You care that much about rep?

 

[Beer]

He means he wants to discuss you thining Vickie gets more heel heat.

 

[MattHardyV1]

I dont like how he has been losing to these guys like Morrison and Kingston at all. He is the world champ and started acting more serious so why not have him come out and absolutley destroy Kofi? I mean they had him randomly lose to John Morrison a few weeks back and that really pissed me off. He has alot of potential and I dont want to see his title reign come to an end just so someone like The Big Show or The Undertaker can snatch it up again. What needs to happen is he needs to get on a serious hot streak starting at OTL with a CLEAN win over Show. Then he should just go through the SD roster dominating anyone who steps up with him, then have Taker come in and start a decently long program with him, and he absolutley should get at least one clean win over Taker, then he will be a serious player for years to come, but the way he is being booked in the ring latley is pathetic. Im afraid to say that in reality Swagger will either end up A. Losing the belt to Show (unlikley) or B. Continue to job to mid carders here and there and be made out to look like a bitch only for Undertaker to come and actually make him his bitch and absolutley bury him at whatever PPV. Few months later Swagger will be taking masterlock challenges on Superstars..

 

[noumenon]

He's not horrible as champ. I think given the momentum he was given (which was none) going into this title reign he's done quite a good job. He's had some pretty damn good matches since winning the title against guys like Orton, Taker and Cena. And so what if he took clean losses to them... they're the three top faces in the company right now. Last time I checked a face will 99% of the time go over a heel in a clean one on one match. It wasn't as if any of the above squashed him either, he's had his fair share over each of them. Let's not forget he's also PINNED Orton, Edge and Jericho since winning the title. I believe pinned Orton on more than one occasion actually.
He's done a decent job of drawing in the heat and modifying his character to fit the bill. I find his promos pretty entertaining at least. I think right now there's quite a bit for him to do over on Smackdown as WHC. There's really no other immediate heel threat to the title right now so I'd say he's pretty safe. I'd love to see a program between him and Christian if they do indeed decide to give Christian that push... hell the feud books itself after what went down between them on ECW.

And to sum it up pretty simply. Yeah, your champion should lose sometimes. People bitch because Cena holds a title and doesn't lose, but when someone does take a few losses it's a huge deal. Make up your minds people.

 

[Axis]

:roll2:You care that much about rep?

No, I truly don't. I think you misunderstood the point of my post. I was simply calling attention to the fact that this poster ("Doomsday") made a comment about the post, and I wasn't sure where he was going with it. Obviously it was in refutation to my post, and that's why I included the fact that it was a negative rep. Furthermore, because it was in refutation to my post, I was hoping that he would expand on his thoughts so that we could engage in intelligent dialogue about how Jack Swagger's reign may or may not be comparable to Rey Mysterio's.

 

[Axis]

He means he wants to discuss you thining Vickie gets more heel heat.

OHHH, see that makes more sense. I thought he was somehow making a point about Rey Mysterio going on to feud with Vickie Guerrero -- a fact that I found irrelevant to my point, this causing my confusion. That makes much more sense. Yes, in fact, I did forget about Vickie Guerrero. I will therefore modify my position:

Jack Swagger gets the most heat of any active wrestler on Smackdown, except MAYBE CM Punk. That alone should be an indication of the success of the push that Swagger is receiving. His reactions and booked legitimacy is multiplicative of that which he received as ECW Champion, and even more extreme compared to where he was and how he was booked on Raw prior to winning the World Title. I too would have liked to see a slower build toward the world title, and I said so when Swagger won the belt. However, I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong; the WWE bookers have thus far made a successful reign out of a situation that, on paper, should have turned out pretty shitty.

 

[...god...]

:roll2:You care that much about rep?

That's funny that you would pretend not to care about that, Charismatic Edge.

 

[Lady Redfield]

That's funny that you would pretend not to care about that, Charismatic Edge.

Wait, are you fucking serious? If it's him, I have to take back all my green rep and neg the shit out of him now.

Thanks for the head's up!