UFC 166

[seabs]

HeavyweightCain Velasquez (c)vsJunior Dos Santos[a]
HeavyweightDaniel Cormiervs.Roy Nelson
LightweightGilbert Melendezvs.Diego Sanchez
HeavyweightGabriel Gonzagavs.Shawn Jordan
FlyweightJohn Dodsonvs.Darrell Montague
Preliminary card (Fox Sports 1)
MiddleweightTim Boetschvs.C.B. Dollaway
WelterweightNate Marquardtvs.Hector Lombard
Women's BantamweightSarah Kaufmanvs.Jessica Eye
LightweightGeorge Sotiropoulosvs.KJ Noons

Any of ya in for this? Hyped to see DC hopefully over the debut jitters and Cain vs JDS will be fun for the first two at least depending on JDS' conditioning.

@Dolph'sZiggler drop some knowledge in here, you smmarky devil.

Tags for people who maybe into it @CRAY0 Johnson @Stopspot @Danielson @gav the chav @whothefuckisinfortwofatguysfighting.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Cain vs JDS can't be topped. 'Rubber match' but I expect these two will fight at least once more in a pretty unprecedented 4th fight and possibly 5th at some point in the future.

They are that much better than everyone else, especially with Cormier (Cain's training partner) going to 205 after he massacres Nelson tonight.

Anything could happen between these two. Hyped as hell. My smurf El Nino vs Sanchez is a fun fight as well. solid card. will be watching , possibly posting.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

even the prelims have a lot of guys I wouldn't mind watching. Lombard vs Marquardt sho0uld be fun

 

[Gav back in the championship]

never really watched ufc/mma the few fights i've seen bored me to tears more of a boxing fan

 

[seabs]

even the prelims have a lot of guys I wouldn't mind watching. Lombard vs Marquardt sho0uld be fun

It all depends on Hector's cut IMO, apparently he was struggling with it but I see him catching Nate if it went well if not I got Nate via decision.

Cain vs JDS can't be topped. 'Rubber match' but I expect these two will fight at least once more in a pretty unprecedented 4th fight and possibly 5th at some point in the future.

They are that much better than everyone else, especially with Cormier (Cain's training partner) going to 205 after he massacres Nelson tonight.

Anything could happen between these two. Hyped as hell. My smurf El Nino vs Sanchez is a fun fight as well. solid card. will be watching , possibly posting.

Yeah i watched a few of DC's Strikeforce fights and he's crazily good, with his wrestling and kickboxing I could see him troubling Bones and he weighed in about high 220s didn't he? If so the cut is going well. You think he still drops down if JDS wins the title?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Hard to tell because honestly I find it a little bitch made that he is willing to just let Cain be the best HW and he is content to move to LHW. I think if JDS wins the title Cain is still either getting a rematch right away (not likely) or getting another match after 1/2 fights (very likely)

So yea, everything I've seen it is concrete; win or lose and regardless of the ME outcome he is dropping to 205. After seeing Jones vs Gus, DC definitely has the chops to take it to Jones IMO. Jones would have the reach, but Cormier would be able to dictate a lot in the fight as far as where it takes place, something Jones is used to dictating. When he couldn't take down Gus we saw him get frustrated and he was off his game. If he isn't beating up DC on the feet and can't take him down it could be a problem. DC has amazing footwork and I think he is versatile enough to get inside on JJ due to the theat of his shots, and then he can do damage with his hands.

And if not, he has great kicks that could make up for the huge reach disadvantage.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Will be interesting if they give DC an instant title shot. He should get it IMO, as 205 is low on top talent anyhow and they gave guys like Chael and Vitor title shots who were coming up from MW

 

[seabs]

I'd rather he has one fight just to see how the cut affects him, ideally I would have wanted Glover vs DC and a Gus rematch or Gus vs DC and Glover vs Bones. I'll not get butt hurt over an immediate match though, the reach won't be a huge disadvantage to him as he's always working against bigger guys and as you said his headmovement and footwork make getting inside look easy. Obviously Bones has a better handspeed than BF, Barnett, Mir and Monson (the only DC fights I've seen) but his boxing is still worse than DC's although he has the monstrous elbows so could catch him coming in.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I'd rather he has one fight just to see how the cut affects him, ideally I would have wanted Glover vs DC and a Gus rematch or Gus vs DC and Glover vs Bones. I'll not get butt hurt over an immediate match though, the reach won't be a huge disadvantage to him as he's always working against bigger guys and as you said his headmovement and footwork make getting inside look easy. Obviously Bones has a better handspeed than BF, Barnett, Mir and Monson (the only DC fights I've seen) but his boxing is still worse than DC's although he has the monstrous elbows so could catch him coming in.

DC kicks like a fucking horse too. He could do some real damage to JJ's chicken legs.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Seriously though @Seabs do you agree that we could see Cain/JDS 2-3 more times AFTER this fight? Usually a trilogy is all you get and I can't think of any guys who fought 4 times in any combat sport besides Sugar Ray and Jake Lamatta who fought like a million times.

but I find Cain/JDS fascinating. They match up so well, and it feels like anything could happen at any point when they fight. No matter who wins tonight I fully expect the loser to be ready for fight IV within 12-16 months. Who in the division can touch these guys?

 

[Danielson]

I'm down to watch this tonight. If I order the PPV, how many fights will I get?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I'm down to watch this tonight. If I order the PPV, how many fights will I get?

5 on PPV

there is a prelim card on FX or FOx Sports 1 that has 5 more

 

[Danielson]

5 on PPV

there is a prelim card on FX or FOx Sports 1 that has 5 more

Thanks, i'll tune in tonight for sure.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

cool. if you and seabs will be here I'll make it a point to be here in the discussion

 

[Danielson]

Well if you and seabs are here, i'll make a point to be here too :tough: