TNA General Discussion Thread

[Brandon Blaze]

I totally see your point, but my counter would be though if Tony did own TNA for example then Ring of Honor would actually be a full-fledged company again and they would be able to hire the people that Tony didn’t hire for TNA. There’s always somebody that’s gonna take up the space that fell from the lack of an AEW or it could be MLW would be in a better spot right now or more likely both. They’d probably actually each take half of the space AEW would have.

We can’t 100% know for sure he doesn’t still buy ROH. Which I mean maybe he doesn’t? Cause I mean what hurt ROH was for sure losing some of the people they did, and it’s reasonable to say maybe they don’t lose those people, or at least all of them if he got TNA. So perhaps you’re right. Either way, I’m happy with the timeline we did get because I don’t how the other would truly feel and look.

 

[Smart Marx]

We can’t 100% know for sure he doesn’t still buy ROH. Which I mean maybe he doesn’t? Cause I mean what hurt ROH was for sure losing some of the people they did, and it’s reasonable to say maybe they don’t lose those people, or at least all of them if he got TNA. So perhaps you’re right. Either way, I’m happy with the timeline we did get because I don’t how the other would truly feel and look.

I guess you can’t say for sure that he wouldn’t have still bought ROH, but I think it was far more likely he was always gonna buy a Ring of Honor over TNA anyway so I think if you got a Ring of Honor and put it on TNT I think TNA and MLW would both be in much stronger spot today under the number 2 ROH.

Which funnily enough would gel perfectly with the NJPW and CMLL partnership today.

I fully expect to stay alone on this opinion, but it’s actually one I’ve had since about 2021. Just as someone that keeps trying to get into ROH, TNA and MLW since AEW popped up. They all looked awesome in 2018. If you look at a 2018 picture and you look at those three companies, they all looked at least twice as good as what any of them are doing today.

But like I said, don’t get me wrong AEW being the first company since WCW to even get this close to a number two national space with a streaming and TV deal like they just got is amazing.

 

[Smart Marx]

Just to be clear, I don’t think anyone would lose what you love about AEW today under my vision it would’ve always looked like it does now. It just will be Ring of Honor Dynamite or whatever you’d be watching on Wednesday.

 

[Smart Marx]

Regardless of the name on the marquee, you know Tony has his vision of what he wants his company look like.

 

[Comrade Khan]

If aew doesn't come wwe stays a monopoly and the pandemic still happens. A lot of wrestlers get paid less. It never guarantees the success of those companies at all because their budgets are still small. I disagree completely with this a b c logic personally. Tna was in shambles and roh had no money. The elite were going to wwe.

If tony buys tna instead of making aew , roh wpukd still die. Mlw sued court not tony.

I staunchly dislike this notion that it's aews fault these guys can't break through. They'd just be a bunch on players making bare money n having second jobs.

 

[Comrade Khan]

The fact is tony had the capital and the TV connection with the NFL to get a meeting. Tna mlw roh were never getting a major TV deal imo. Wrestling wasn't even nearly as hot as it it is today either.

 

[Leon TrotSky]

The fact is tony had the capital and the TV connection with the NFL to get a meeting. Tna mlw roh were never getting a major TV deal imo. Wrestling wasn't even nearly as hot as it it is today either.

Given that AEW was a completely new name, does that mean that TNA/Impact would have been "worse than nothing" as a name for Tony to bring to the table? I mean, it was a damaged brand but it was still a brand that existed

 

[Smart Marx]

If aew doesn't come wwe stays a monopoly and the pandemic still happens. A lot of wrestlers get paid less. It never guarantees the success of those companies at all because their budgets are still small. I disagree completely with this a b c logic personally. Tna was in shambles and roh had no money. The elite were going to wwe.

If tony buys tna instead of making aew , roh wpukd still die. Mlw sued court not tony.

I staunchly dislike this notion that it's aews fault these guys can't break through. They'd just be a bunch on players making bare money n having second jobs.

That’s fine we can disagree. Like I said, I know I’m alone. In this opinion we’ve had this discussion before. I don’t think the people being paid less thing is gonna be true though because Tony would still own a company that he presumably still have the same resources and money to pay people.

I don’t believe Ring of Honor died though because either Tony still buys them if he bought TNA or they get bought up by someone else. Ring of honor changed hands many times so someone would always wanna pick up a company like that.

I’m not saying it’s anyone’s fault. I’m just saying there’s only so much talent that a mainstream company can acquire that people are willing to pay to see in my opinion. Between WWE and AEW, there’s like 400 great talents and that’s awesome for the people getting paid. Don’t get me wrong, but it doesn’t give TNA, Ring of Honor or MLW much to acquire talent that people would want to see on their shows.

 

[Smart Marx]

The fact is tony had the capital and the TV connection with the NFL to get a meeting. Tna mlw roh were never getting a major TV deal imo. Wrestling wasn't even nearly as hot as it it is today either.

Maybe there’s some misunderstanding, but I’m talking about Tony still having a company in the space and still coming in in 2019 just with TNA or Ring of Honor name instead of AEW is all I’m saying.

 

[Smart Marx]

Regardless AEW being on Max and having a top-tier TV deal, the likes that no one outside WWE has ever seen is just incredible so my opinion on this isn’t even as strong as it used to be pre-that News coming out.

Pro wrestling in 2025 might be the next boom between AEW on Max, raw getting on Netflix NXT getting on The CW and TNA clearly finally putting more money into their production and trying to lock in some good names.

We’re gonna be in for a good ride this year.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I think to me the question is never talent . U could break up wwe n aew in half or less n make more companies. The issue is there's only so much wrestling ppl want to invest in. Wwe already floods the market with 8 hours on live content a week . With aew it's now 12.

Like wwe gotta be to have like at least 200 wrestlers from recruits to main eventers alone.

It's a competitive market for peoples attention in a niche sport. As people income shrink n more media options arise it's just a tough sell to a big network and consolidations are probably gonna be inevitable.

 

[Brandon Blaze]

I think to me the question is never talent . U could break up wwe n aew in half or less n make more companies. The issue is there's only so much wrestling ppl want to invest in. Wwe already floods the market with 8 hours on live content a week . With aew it's now 12.

Like wwe gotta be to have like at least 200 wrestlers from recruits to main eventers alone.

It's a competitive market for peoples attention in a niche sport. As people income shrink n more media options arise it's just a tough sell to a big network and consolidations are probably gonna be inevitable.

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(Don’t take me seriously please )

 

[Smart Marx]

I think to me the question is never talent . U could break up wwe n aew in half or less n make more companies. The issue is there's only so much wrestling ppl want to invest in. Wwe already floods the market with 8 hours on live content a week . With aew it's now 12.

Like wwe gotta be to have like at least 200 wrestlers from recruits to main eventers alone.

It's a competitive market for peoples attention in a niche sport. As people income shrink n more media options arise it's just a tough sell to a big network and consolidations are probably gonna be inevitable.

I mean, I don’t disagree with that either. But that’s what I’m saying though if AEW as a brand didn’t exist but Tony was booking TNA or Ring of Honor instead that’s still less television being produced for wrestling audiences.

Like saying I’m not even villainizing Tony so I hope that’s being clear because WWE is also hoarding talent or however, you want to refer to it with like you said 200+ talent and indeed puts on so much television.

As someone that’s getting back into WWE TV for the first time in like a decade, I’m struggling to even catch up with just the 2025 TV shows.

 

[Smart Marx]

And speaking of AEW, I have the catch-up on that as well, but there’s only so much time in the day. I’m just trying to slowly dip my toes back into wrestling.

 

[Smart Marx]

I hate being such a wrestling fan that I wanna watch everything as long as I think it’ll entertain me.