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[Wrestling16]

Are WWE or will WWE Miss these 9 wrestlers for wrestlemania?

.Wrestlemania 23 has some very good intresting match ups such as HBKCena, BatistaTaker, The Hair vs Hair match up, and lets not forget MITB.
But besides these match ups lets all be onest the card dosent look great We've got khali vs kane which we all know we be a stinker,MvpBenoit which is a match i don't think has no really feud behind it and a math that no one really cares about. The 8 man Nb vs the originals now to be onest l am glad to see some up and coming stars gettting a push ang gettin to peform on the biggest stage of them like burke and striker but i can't really see the fans being in to this match and i think the build up/feud has benn badly done to it,is this match good enough for a mania.Melina vs Ashley Another match that i think will stink the place out, to be onest nither one are great wrestlers and i think match is all about promoting ashley for playboy.
So here is my question do you think vince knew how much these superstras would be missed for mania
.Kurt Angle
.Triple H
.Rey Mysterio
.Eddie Guerrero(RIP)
.Big Show
.Chris Jericho
.Christian
.Lita
.Trish Stratus
Now all of these Supertras have performed at lasts years mania or the mania before and i am little suprised how much they are all going to be missed and with trish, lita, show angle, christian,jericho not coming back for the mean time. I really do think Vince needs to start Signing more stars and making some specials ones.

 

[Wrestling Station]

well well well, talking about guys left WWE, or left life, or just left wrestling, or left out due to injury is an issue that Vince takes into consideration.
These kind of things do happen and even if it needs some time to develop a new blood of generation, its ok, things come with time. We just need to be patient. You havent included The Rock, Austin, Bret Hart....,etc... This is life dude.

Maybe its a matter of time for to rebuild the locker room. So for the time being, Vince is trying to fill in the spaces/ gaps by having a feud including himself in this WM.

I bet next WM will be much more organised with more decent matches than this one for sure.

 

[Soulpower]

Lita and Trish will be missed because they would have put on a better match than Ashley and Melina. The loss of Angle doesn't make much of an impact (pun intended) because his health isn't what it used to be so there'd be no guarantee of a great Angle match. Jericho and Christian are missed because they would have made any feud more interesting, although if they were still around they'd probably be in the MITB. If Big Show was around we'd probably be getting Show vs Khali so that's no loss there.

The two biggest losses to WM are HHH and Rey who both would have probably been in high-profile match (especially HHH) and now they're both off the card.

 

[Wrestling16]

Lita and Trish will be missed because they would have put on a better match than Ashley and Melina. The loss of Angle doesn't make much of an impact (pun intended) because his health isn't what it used to be so there'd be no guarantee of a great Angle match. Jericho and Christian are missed because they would have made any feud more interesting, although if they were still around they'd probably be in the MITB. If Big Show was around we'd probably be getting Show vs Khali so that's no loss there.

The two biggest losses to WM are HHH and Rey who both would have probably been in high-profile match (especially HHH) and now they're both off the card.

Yes but we all say angles body isn't right and we don't think he will put good matches on but look at his matches joex3 and very good match with abyss on impact so i think he would have had a another brillant match at mania.

 

[Montana]

You cant forget about HOgan and Foley. The WWE was banking on Hogans last match. Also Mick Foley is still availible for a match, but they seem focused on pushing the new stars.

You bring up a great Point, but the wwe knew over a year ago about eddie and christian.
Big Show is also a pretty big loss, but at the same time, after his 8+ year stint in the wwe they've ran out of things for the Giant to do storyline and match wise.

Biggest losses were no doubt HHH and Rey, due to injury.

 

[BrotherBruti]

None of them to be honest.

I'm not going to go in to Eddie because, well, he's dead. I'm sure most agree that WWE as a whole misses him but theres nothing anyone can do about it.

HHH would be doing the exact same storyline with Cena that HBK is doing, HBK will have a better match with Cena than HHH had last year so i don't see him as being a loss.

After last years World title disaster i think Rey will benefit greatly from his injury break and will hopefully return to a storyline that has nothing to with a dead guy. Would he of contributed a good match? Sure, but looking at the current line up i'd expect he'd of been placed in MITB as well.

Angle is a fine performer and a personal favourite of mine but i think he'd done everything he could in WWE and there wasn't really anything fresh for him to do had he stayed in WWE.

Big Show was finished as a wrestler and never reached his true potential and never will. He's no great loss to the company.

Trish, perhaps she will be missed simply because she was far and away the best woman on the roster and no one of the current group can touch her. I couldn't really give a monkeys about the annual "Playboy Plug" match or the Womens title so i'm not shedding tears about her not being there.

Lita? Who cares, a few dodgy hurracanranas don't make a good wrestler and she wasn't a good wrestler. Meh.

Jericho was another guy that had done pretty much everything, if his heart was no longer in wrestling then it's for the best he stepped out of the ring.

Christian is another guy you just know they would of had in MITB so he won't be missed.

Personally i like the current line up. The Triple Main Event is as good as any in recent years and well ahead of last years blah blah blah event. Kane/Khali won't be a classic but i don't expect a classic, just loads of gimmicks and stuff to hide the fact Khali can't wrestle. WWE know that Khali can't wrestle so i don't expect them to send him out there for a 20 minute mat fest.

MVP/Benoit is as thrown together as any Benoit match normally is, they don't trust him to carry a storyline. I like MVP, he just needs to get rid of that damn ring attire. MITB should be great, i am disapointed that some of those guys aren't in single matchs but having guys like Edge and Orton in it certainly raises it up from being a mid card gimmick to something more important.

I don't care for the Womens title match but it'll serve it's purpose and hype Playboy, to be honest Ashley is the most bland girl on the roster, nothing special whatsoever so i don't evan care about Playboy.

The ECW match has guys on it you know are on their last legs and will be happy to just be on the show and guys that have potential in the years to come. Theres loads of young guys on the roster so WWE are certainly trying to push new people evan though it'll take time for guys to really come in to their own.

 

[This Guy]

none of them will be missed because no one person can make or break Mania. 3 of them were not on last years Mania, and none of them were missed. The rest are not iconic names, and even if you say that someone like Triple H is, its not like this is the first Mania that an iconic wrestler has missed. Undertaker maybe 14-0 but he has missed 2 since his debut....it didn't hurt those Mania's. Hulk Hogan was on the first 9 WM's and he was not missed either after he left. If these two big names aren't missed and don't hurt Mania, none of these other names will either.

 

[xtremebadass]

Kurt Angle-No because he was a singles wrestler, since they have like no classic singles matches he wont be missed
Triple H- He was main eventing, they have 2 strong main events, I will miss him tho
Rey Mysterio- He sucks, Mania is better w/o him
Eddie Guerrero(RIP)- Of course, what's mania w/o a little latino heat?
Big Show- No, they just make small stars over come the odds, Show replaced by Khali
Chris Jericho- Well, undecided
Christian- No, he could have been in MITB tho
Lita- They got women wrestlers at Mania already, not missed at all
Trish Stratus- She had her shine at Mania, good choice to step down

 

[phantomgerald]

of course they will be missed. its what wwe do with their current crop that matters

 

[Wrestling16]

none of them will be missed because no one person can make or break Mania. 3 of them were not on last years Mania, and none of them were missed. The rest are not iconic names, and even if you say that someone like Triple H is, its not like this is the first Mania that an iconic wrestler has missed. Undertaker maybe 14-0 but he has missed 2 since his debut....it didn't hurt those Mania's. Hulk Hogan was on the first 9 WM's and he was not missed either after he left. If these two big names aren't missed and don't hurt Mania, none of these other names will either.

Yes they will be missed look at the undercard to a Mania and if some of those stars were here now it would be a much better mania.

Kurt Angle-No because he was a singles wrestler, since they have like no classic singles matches he wont be missed
Triple H- He was main eventing, they have 2 strong main events, I will miss him tho
Rey Mysterio- He sucks, Mania is better w/o him
Eddie Guerrero(RIP)- Of course, what's mania w/o a little latino heat?
Big Show- No, they just make small stars over come the odds, Show replaced by Khali
Chris Jericho- Well, undecided
Christian- No, he could have been in MITB tho
Lita- They got women wrestlers at Mania already, not missed at all
Trish Stratus- She had her shine at Mania, good choice to step down

What Rey Mysterio sucks is their something wrong with you he is one of the best high flyers of all time and would of been amazing in MITB and come to think of it i would of love to of saw him and angle one on one at a mania

 

[This Guy]

Yes they will be missed look at the undercard to a Mania and if some of those stars were here now it would be a much better mania.

no they really won't. first off, I don't think the undercard is that bad...no worse then anyother year. I'd rather see Kane vs. Khali then Taker vs. Mark Henry in a match where the outcome was so friggin predictable. The WWE is going to push guys like Khali onto Mania weather we like it or not. If Triple H was there he'd be in the main event.....gee it seems the last time we had Triple H in the main event it was against Cena as well...what was Shawn Michaels doing that night....oh yeah he was fighting Vince McMahon....thats not a good undercard match, but it puts butts in the seats because people want to see Vince get his ass kicked....which is why the battle of the billionairs is actually a great match concept...sure the in ring work might leave something to be desired but as much as people want to see Vince get his ass kicked they'd rather see him get his head shaved. So where would Shawn Michaels be then if Triple H was heathly and on the card? He'd be the one probably to face the Great Khali. Thats actually worse. I'd rather see Kane who has been built as a sadistic monster be the small guy trying to knock of the Great Khali then HBK who would look like a rag doll in the ring.

The matches your complaining about would be going on in some form or fashion with or without the guys you mentioned. As my example yeah maybe it would be Khali vs HBK instead of Kane, but if you inserted many of those other guys it would be Khali vs. Jericho, or Christian, or maybe they are in the mitb so we get to see Khali vs. Jeff Hardy again!! or maybe Lashly would be defending to Finlay (because we haven't see that fued a million times) or Trumps rep would be Eddie Guerrero, sure the promos might be a little more entertaining but do you honestly think Eddie would have a better match with Umaga then Lashley can? Well perhaps, but you'd still all be crapping all over it because none of you want to give Umaga his due. Or if you changed the reps for Trump and Vince all together with guys that you missed, maybe yeah that match would catch your eye, but you'd still be pissed because now Lashley & Umaga would be fighting a match probably anyways for either the ECW or IC Title. You'd be crapping all over that either way. At least in Battle of the Billionaires after Lashley beats Umaga you'll get to see Vince shaved bald.

My point is and I still maintain this. These guys are not iconic stars. No one person makes or breaks a wrestlemania. Undertaker missed 2 because of injuries, Jericho, Christian, Eddie were all off last years mania and it was still awesome. Even Edge who you would put in your list if he was going to miss this mania missed 2 manias due to injury and they were still great. If Undertaker was going to miss this mania you'd have him on your list too and as I already pointed out even Taker missed 2 mania's and they were still great. But even the Mania's Undertaker has been apart of he's been in matches that you would have crapped on too. He fought Mark Henry last year, people didn't want that on the card. back at 19 he fought Albert & Big Show in a handycap match that he was originally suposed to team with Nathan Jones, fans didn't want to see that either. The point I'm making here is what I said before, just because a big name star that you think might be missed from mania is on maina doesn't mean that the undercard is going to look any better. You'll always crap over a match on the undercard, thats just what the fans do when a worker like Khali who people don't understand what the WWE sees in him, gets put on the card. I'm telling you now, Khali was gong to be on this mania weather you liked it or not and no matter who he was facing, you'd be crapping all over his match.


*edit* oh yeah don't double post either, you can quote multiple people for one reply by hitting the quote+ button for all and then hitting the regular quote button for the last person your going to quote

 

[Nancy Di Loreto]

I don't even understand what you're talking about. Half the superstars you've brought up left the company and won't go back. Gees...

 

[Axis]

Kane vs Khali?

Umaga vs Bobby Lashley?

Ashley vs Trish?

The undercard of WrestleMania looks worse than it ever has in the past. Of course they'll be missed. The only one I would say no to is Triple H, because he'd probably be going against Cena instead.

 

[Wrestling16]

I don't even understand what you're talking about. Half the superstars you've brought up left the company and won't go back. Gees...

Yes i know half of the superstars have gone but that is my point will they be missed! and if you don't understand the thread don't post on it.

 

[The Mojo]

I think that HHH will be missed the most b/c no WM is good w/o HHH in it let alone without Rey or Y2J or anyone else

This year Wrestlemania will be different