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Jacob Fox

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Opening

Vince, Shane and Stephanie McMahon along with Triple H announced they were going to take charge of the shows and make the crowd the Authority. Baron Corbin came to the ring and after intense booing, convinced the McMahons to give him another chance to be the permanent general manager if he beat Kurt Angle with Heath Slater as the referee.

Baron Corbin vs Kurt Angle with Special Referee Heath Slater

After the match started, Triple H came out and announced it was a handicap match and he brought out Robert Roode, Chad Gable and Apollo Crews. Then Shane McMahon came out and said he forgot to mention it was no DQ.

Angle pinned Corbin effectively removing him from power.

Finn Balor vs Dolph Ziggler

DQ when Drew McIntyre came in and attacked both men

Intercontinental Championship: Champion Dean Ambrose vs Tyler Breeze

Ambrose defeated Breeze and then was attacked by Seth Rollins, who was disguised at ringside.

Fatal Fourway for Tag Title Shot: B Team, The Revival, The AOP and Lucha House Party

The Revival won by pin fall

Ronda Rousey

Rousey tried to put forth an open challenge and Stephanie McMahon brought out the entire women's roster for a gauntlet match, with the winner getting a shot against Rousey.

Women's Gauntlet Match

Match 1: Alicia Fox vs Bayley won by Bayley
Match 2: Bayley vs Dana Brooke won by Bayley
Match 3: Bayley vs Mickie James won by Mickie James
Match 4: Mickie James vs Ember Moon won by Ember Moon
Match 5: Ember Moon vs Natalya won by Natalya
Match 6: Natalya vs Ruby Riott won by Natalya
Match 7: Natalya vs Sasha Banks won by Natalya


Natalya will face Ronda Rousey next week for the championship. After the match, Ronda came out to the ring. Rousey rose Natalya's hand and hugged her before they both left.
 

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The show was actually pretty decent so I gave it a 7. I watched it with some fast forwarding, so that might be why but watching Baron Corbin get destroyed was well worth it and I wouldn't mind seeing that over and over again. He may be, in my opinion, the worst GM Raw has ever had and considering that group contains AJ Lee, Mike Adamle and a flashing light, that's pretty bad.
 
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So the announcement was... That?

You know since Vince is such a busy guy, travelling and signing multi-million dollar deals and talking to corporations and investors all while micromanaging the product... I'm not surprised that he thinks the answer was in kayfabe. The man's life sounds hectic
 

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All the Mcmahon stuff was insulting. The kayfabe reason for raw being shit is because the Mcmahons weren't there every week? That's dumb.

Stephanie was the one who hired Corbin ffs. Stephanie is the raw commissioner, its her fault the show is shit.
 

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My interest in WWE is really on the fringe. I explained a while ago I quit watching (cancelled my subscription) because of the 50/50 booking and Reigns wins lol. I followed highlights to keep up with the story and to see if anything would change. When Reigns said goodbye & Dean turned heel, I was curious. Curious, but still not enough to compel me to watch a 3 hr Raw.

I tune in last night for a moment. The promise of Vince shaking things up plus Rollins last week admitting on air that the show is crap ...this is the time for them to do something. The point I tuned in was Dean calling for Rollins to come out. He's standing there with his 4 masked men, and it was obvious from the beginning that Rollins was one of them. But before that grand reveal, we get to see Dean tease an open challenge ... only to have Tyler Breeze walk out for a squash. Then we got the surprise, Rollins was there the whole time! WOW, exciting! What shocking twist. In my boredom I looked on line to see what I missed at the start of the show. Did Vince start the show, or will he come out at the end. Oh, he was there at the start. Vince kicked things off. And the big shake up for RAW ... MORE Mcmahons! At this point I changed the channel.

Are they really that stupid? I think the last time Vince was on RAW, he said he wanted blood between Shane & Steph. He wanted competition between the brands.

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works every time. People are never going to boo this man unless he wants them to
 

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Another crap edition of RAW.. I don't want to sit through a 45 minute gauntlet match at the end of RAW, It should've open the show after the Vince segment.. Nothing changed, same old shit with these guys.

After reading the spoilers for next weeks show, it looks really bad to.
 
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Oh, and speaking of...

-Lars Sullivan going to Raw is weird. He's a lesser Braun Strowman.

-EC3 seems like someone WWE hate-watchers would love to say "fits the product perfectly", when that couldn't be further from the truth. EC3 shines in small vignettes and fun segments, RAW caters to talents able to hold the fans' attention between commercials

-Lacey Evans is either a depth callup or the next Alexa Bliss, with no in-between. They're trying to do too much with her character on NXT and her matches don't feel up to par, but on Raw with an easier match structure and simpler characters I can see her being the female Elias, too. Many people are calling for her success due to her blonde hair, boobs, vain old-timey pin-up character and military background... I'll still believe it when I see it.

-Heavy Machinery is an easy bust call, which is sad because man I love these guys and it should be so easy to dominate the RAW tag division right now. Otis reciting scripts sounds cringe

-Nikki Cross keeping her character over? LOL. However I'd love to see a creative match between her and Ronda. If done well Nikki Cross can have a weird ZSJ appeal to her, where any match with her is so unique that it leaves you wondering about any PPV encounter she has
 

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Another crap edition of RAW.. I don't want to sit through a 45 minute gauntlet match at the end of RAW, It should've open the show after the Vince segment.. Nothing changed, same old shit with these guys.

After reading the spoilers for next weeks show, it looks really bad to.
Wrestling fans ask wwe for more wrestling.

Wwe give them more wrestling

Fans moan.

I don't know how having a 45 minute match as the main event is same old shit.
 

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Oh, and speaking of...

-Lars Sullivan going to Raw is weird. He's a lesser Braun Strowman.

-EC3 seems like someone WWE hate-watchers would love to say "fits the product perfectly", when that couldn't be further from the truth. EC3 shines in small vignettes and fun segments, RAW caters to talents able to hold the fans' attention between commercials

-Lacey Evans is either a depth callup or the next Alexa Bliss, with no in-between. They're trying to do too much with her character on NXT and her matches don't feel up to par, but on Raw with an easier match structure and simpler characters I can see her being the female Elias, too. Many people are calling for her success due to her blonde hair, boobs, vain old-timey pin-up character and military background... I'll still believe it when I see it.

-Heavy Machinery is an easy bust call, which is sad because man I love these guys and it should be so easy to dominate the RAW tag division right now. Otis reciting scripts sounds cringe

-Nikki Cross keeping her character over? LOL. However I'd love to see a creative match between her and Ronda. If done well Nikki Cross can have a weird ZSJ appeal to her, where any match with her is so unique that it leaves you wondering about any PPV encounter she has
They didn't specify which brand each of them will be going to.

Lacey Evans success is down to her look and character. It's definitely not down to her wrestling.

Why not book AOP correctly before you call up another shit House team.

EC3 is main roster ready. He didn't need to have wasted his time in NXT. But why not get Almas right before you use EC3?

Lars Sullivan vs Strowman is the fued they will probably book. We have fucking Lashley and Drew ffs tho. Get him on smackdown where everyone is a midgit.

Soooo much wasted talent on the main roster rn. All these guys getting called up is bullshit. Apart from the women
 

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They didn't specify which brand each of them will be going to.

Lacey Evans success is down to her look and character. It's definitely not down to her wrestling.

Why not book AOP correctly before you call up another shit House team.

EC3 is main roster ready. He didn't need to have wasted his time in NXT. But why not get Almas right before you use EC3?

Lars Sullivan vs Strowman is the fued they will probably book. We have fucking Lashley and Drew ffs tho. Get him on smackdown where everyone is a midgit.

Soooo much wasted talent on the main roster rn. All these guys getting called up is bullshit. Apart from the women

It's sad to say this but I was actually trying to be optimistic with that :lol1:

Honest thoughts are more like "They could definitely use introducing new characters, like breaking off Bo Dallas to be his NXT character as IC champion and feud with a serious white-meat solid wrestler in Hennig Jr" but that'll go as well as the Ambrose heel turn, Broken Matt Hardy, Balor Club, any other things where the fans were all like "YO GOLD MINE RIGHT HERE" and they faceplanted so hard

Like shoot they could just talk on commentary about how No Way Jose is actually a serious wrestler despite the dancing. and at least he'd seem like he has a place on the roster lol. I liked his "when you hit me too hard, I shake off the goofiness and start beating ass" NXT gimmick...

The other side is that this roster is severely lacking depth lol, it's amazing how few people it feels like they have for a 3 hour show. Guess they want to bolster the divisions with bodies. Best of luck to 'em, who knows, maybe Steph's line about them not doing a good job is true after all