Yup. Neither man delivered in that match. Which isn't surprising since both are some of the most lazy men in the biz when not put in a main event position
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Nah. It was not. It was a fine "paint by the numbers" match, but nowhere near good. Lazy, unimaginative and dull. Especially in the middle.
Not to mention that neither guy cared about the match. And that earns them minus points with me. Even a paint by the numbers match can be good in my opinion, if the guys working it put in the effort to care about it. It was pretty obvious that neither Aries or Shinsuke gave a shit.
Not to mention that neither guy cared about the match. And that earns them minus points with me. Even a paint by the numbers match can be good in my opinion, if the guys working it put in the effort to care about it. It was pretty obvious that neither Aries or Shinsuke gave a shit.
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That's the one thing that keeps Aries down. He phones most of his stuff in when he isn't in a spot he wants to be in, and then complains when he's not elevated.
Like they go hand in hand, gotta give to get.
Like they go hand in hand, gotta give to get.
I mostly agree. I gave it a good rating, but it definitely didn't leave the best impression on me. I was actually in and out of the room a few times and didn't see the entire match, only listening to parts. I was reading the discussion here and figured I really should go back and watch the entire thing. Upon doing so, I actually would lower my rating on the match. I had previously given it **** but upon review, would lower that to **1/2. I had figured I missed some good things when i was out of the room and in actuality I missed the worst parts.
You are correct that both guys really seemed to not give a shit.
It was dull enough that I actually turned off the rest of the show and have yet to watch it. Really took the air out of me
THE END... of the Beginning... actually for the person who asked they were talking about someone's rear end I don't remember who... *ahem* anyway...
Getting a 7/10 from me, although it's easier to point out bad than good...
Andrade "Cien" Almas vs Tye Dillinger... Forget about the Full Sail crowd that I see everyone complaining about, as someone who's never saw La Sombra wrestle... I can't wait to see an actual match from this guy to see what he can do, because outside of that double moonsault thingie and that devastating finish, this came across COMPLETELY backwards. Tye Dillinger came across as this massive breakout star and Cien came across as the biggest "just a guy"... Maybe with the brand split coming up, it might be time to get Tye on Raw/SD soon.
HOLY SHIT THE REVIVAL VS AMERICAN ALPHA WAS INCREDIBLE! Comparing it to their first match seems pretty pointless but that didn't get nearly enough love. Thought after Takeover: Dallas that could easily be the second best match of the year and this one was every bit as good as that one was. These two are easily the best tag team matches I've ever seen under a WWE umbrella and up there with the most fun 2 - on - 2 matches in any promotion. Just enough heat to get that epic Jason Jordan hot tag, with flying dropkicks and tandem offense and jaw-dropping spots to go with great psychology and strategy from both sides and pin breakups and chaotic endings and a pretty shocking title change. Hey now, I LOVE that NXT does enough unpredictable finishes that it does leave just enough doubt in our minds come Takeover time, as unexpected title changes always leave you wondering. Great, great stuff, and as great as the NXT Women's Division is and all the praise it deserves for changing the perception of women's wrestling... I think the tag division deserves to take some credit as well, as these guys can show the main roster - reference Roadblock - how to put on a fucking tag match.
...then Aries vs Nakamura happened... and I was on the opposite side of Wacokid27 with this one. This match really underdelivered. Wasn't bad, didn't suck... but kept waiting for them to hit that next gear and it never truly came. Takeover has a certain prestige to it, it's a less restrictive environment, and especially following that tag title match we just expect better from these performers and this show than we would even on a WWE PPV. Aries carried the whole match - whether that was booking or lazy Nak I don't know - and that's far from a bad thing to watch... Then the finish happened, and as AWESOME as that Kinshasha was, Nakamura just came across lucky here because Aries had total control/dominated until he spiked himself doing that dumb ass suicide dive. Meh
(Also please no more death valley drivers on ring aprons. Cringe every time.)
As for people who I'm really starting to like to watch... surprisingly, Nia Jax. It's really cool to see the way she's learning from her mistakes from the past - both getting better in and out of kayfabe - and as Asuka tried all of Bayley's old moves to attack her, reversing guillotine chokes into overhead throwing German Suplexes. It's more than just "ahaha I'm big and fat and your offense has little effect on me", she's reversing knee strikes into big power moves and putting fear into Asuka and being legitimate odds to overcome. I liked this a lot. And the finish was cool, too, and maybe next time Nia can do a little more homework and even get a run with the belt.
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Dude. Freaking Samoa Joe is the BEST. Man watching this monster pick up Balor and just lawndart him into the side of the cage gives-no-fucks style was GLORIOUS and I giggled like a schoolgirl. I loved that and his flying Enziguri off the top rope and his accidental crotching of the Demon and the really cool finish especially. Those were the highlights but the rest of this was definitely the best of the Balor/Joe series! The efforts to escape the cage were OK and I'm SO glad they didn't go for the Coup De Grace off the cage and make Balor look like a dolt... I didn't like the Demon getting pinned that easily - yes a flying Musclebuster like that is one thing, but the impervious-to-pain Demon Balor got up and walked away from the KO Apron Powerbomb of all things, dude's gotta be kayfabe better than even THAT - but hell, if this means more Samoa Joe beating ass as Finn Balor moves up to be drafted to Raw/SD where I won't watch him, what's there to complain about?
So overall I was really happy with TO: The End of the Beginning, but as NXT's depth runs thin, I do hope this isn't The End of the awesome Takeover specials.
Getting a 7/10 from me, although it's easier to point out bad than good...
Andrade "Cien" Almas vs Tye Dillinger... Forget about the Full Sail crowd that I see everyone complaining about, as someone who's never saw La Sombra wrestle... I can't wait to see an actual match from this guy to see what he can do, because outside of that double moonsault thingie and that devastating finish, this came across COMPLETELY backwards. Tye Dillinger came across as this massive breakout star and Cien came across as the biggest "just a guy"... Maybe with the brand split coming up, it might be time to get Tye on Raw/SD soon.
HOLY SHIT THE REVIVAL VS AMERICAN ALPHA WAS INCREDIBLE! Comparing it to their first match seems pretty pointless but that didn't get nearly enough love. Thought after Takeover: Dallas that could easily be the second best match of the year and this one was every bit as good as that one was. These two are easily the best tag team matches I've ever seen under a WWE umbrella and up there with the most fun 2 - on - 2 matches in any promotion. Just enough heat to get that epic Jason Jordan hot tag, with flying dropkicks and tandem offense and jaw-dropping spots to go with great psychology and strategy from both sides and pin breakups and chaotic endings and a pretty shocking title change. Hey now, I LOVE that NXT does enough unpredictable finishes that it does leave just enough doubt in our minds come Takeover time, as unexpected title changes always leave you wondering. Great, great stuff, and as great as the NXT Women's Division is and all the praise it deserves for changing the perception of women's wrestling... I think the tag division deserves to take some credit as well, as these guys can show the main roster - reference Roadblock - how to put on a fucking tag match.
...then Aries vs Nakamura happened... and I was on the opposite side of Wacokid27 with this one. This match really underdelivered. Wasn't bad, didn't suck... but kept waiting for them to hit that next gear and it never truly came. Takeover has a certain prestige to it, it's a less restrictive environment, and especially following that tag title match we just expect better from these performers and this show than we would even on a WWE PPV. Aries carried the whole match - whether that was booking or lazy Nak I don't know - and that's far from a bad thing to watch... Then the finish happened, and as AWESOME as that Kinshasha was, Nakamura just came across lucky here because Aries had total control/dominated until he spiked himself doing that dumb ass suicide dive. Meh
(Also please no more death valley drivers on ring aprons. Cringe every time.)
As for people who I'm really starting to like to watch... surprisingly, Nia Jax. It's really cool to see the way she's learning from her mistakes from the past - both getting better in and out of kayfabe - and as Asuka tried all of Bayley's old moves to attack her, reversing guillotine chokes into overhead throwing German Suplexes. It's more than just "ahaha I'm big and fat and your offense has little effect on me", she's reversing knee strikes into big power moves and putting fear into Asuka and being legitimate odds to overcome. I liked this a lot. And the finish was cool, too, and maybe next time Nia can do a little more homework and even get a run with the belt.
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude. Freaking Samoa Joe is the BEST. Man watching this monster pick up Balor and just lawndart him into the side of the cage gives-no-fucks style was GLORIOUS and I giggled like a schoolgirl. I loved that and his flying Enziguri off the top rope and his accidental crotching of the Demon and the really cool finish especially. Those were the highlights but the rest of this was definitely the best of the Balor/Joe series! The efforts to escape the cage were OK and I'm SO glad they didn't go for the Coup De Grace off the cage and make Balor look like a dolt... I didn't like the Demon getting pinned that easily - yes a flying Musclebuster like that is one thing, but the impervious-to-pain Demon Balor got up and walked away from the KO Apron Powerbomb of all things, dude's gotta be kayfabe better than even THAT - but hell, if this means more Samoa Joe beating ass as Finn Balor moves up to be drafted to Raw/SD where I won't watch him, what's there to complain about?
So overall I was really happy with TO: The End of the Beginning, but as NXT's depth runs thin, I do hope this isn't The End of the awesome Takeover specials.