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On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate Crown Jewel 2019?


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Jeffry Mason

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Alright y'all, first off I wanna give a shoutout to youtubealarm.com. This special edition of the rate thread is sponsored by those guys and wouldn't be possible without them. Mostly because apparently it decided to only play the first 29 seconds of the video, causing me to not hear it and miss half the show live, which in turn made this rate thread be MUCH less interesting than it should have been.

So without further ado, I present to you the official Rate Thread for Crown Jewel 2019. Please be sure to vote above and leave your thoughts on the show below.

Show kicked off (literally, it was on the kickoff show!) with a Number 1 Contender's 20 Man Battle Royal, with the winner getting their shot later in the night. Humberto Carillo would last eliminate Erick Rowan. Also, R-Truth rolled up Sunil Singh after they were both eliminated to become the new 24/7 Champion

Sunil Singh, Mojo Rawley, Erick Rowan, R-Truth, Sin Cara, Brian Kendrick, Titus O'Neil, Tony Nese, Akira Tozawa, Shelton Benjamin, Apollo Crews, Buddy Murphy, Andrade, Drake Maverick, Eric Young, Luke Harper, Cedric Alexander, Heath Slater, Humberto Carrillo and No Way Jose

Main show opened up with a glorified MMA squash match, with Brock Lesnar successfully defending his WWE Title against Cain Velasquez via submission with the kimura. Brock and Rey fought after the match with chairs and stuff. Brock gets his win back from Cain from like decades ago, and it sets up Rey vs Brock for the near future.

Tag Team Turmoil is next. Was either really good based on the quality of most of the teams in this, or really boring based on the general way that these Turmoil matches work. Da OC Baldies end up winning this by defeating the last team to enter, the War Raiders, and are now allegedly the Best Tag Team in the World. I won't believe it, however, until our almighty King Corbin declares them as such.

BIG DOG Mansoor defeated Cesaro in probably the only match I'll honestly go back to watch, as I was really looking forward to this one.

Boxing Dude beat Braun Strowman by countout after punching him off the apron, which is pretty much in this case the exact same thing as a knockout, except it better protects Braun in the record books I guess.

Samir Singh defeated R-Truth after Truth ran into a door to capture the 24/7 Title.

Battle Royal winner from earlier, Humberto Carillo, took the fight to AJ Styles in another rookie sensation showcase, but failed to capture the United States title after succumbing to the Phenomenal Forearm. It was in the middle of this match where I woke up in a panic for fear of missing this show, for those who are wondering.

In a truly historic and emotional match, Natalya submitted Lacey Evans to the Sharpshooter. The crowd was surprisingly hot for this one. Of note, both women wore T-shirts over their full-body covering gear. After the match, Graves and Cole seemed legitimately choked up a little bit. Would be lying if I said I didn't have a tear of joy in my eye during this, too. It's times like this where you realize that professional wrestling sometimes truly does have the power to change the world for the better. Well done WWE.

Team Hogan (Roman Reigns, Shorty G, Ali, Rusev and Ricochet) defeated Team Flair (Baron Corbin, Bobby Lashley, Shinskue Nakamura, Randy Orton and Drew McIntyre) in what amounted to the standard "everyone gets their shit in" showcase with this many people involved. The Rusev/Lashley angle was played up a little bit, but not nearly enough for this feud to be over. Reigns got the pin on Orton after a spear.

And lastly, the entitled people on the internet who think their fantasy booking is the only thing that matters can finally SHUT THE FUCK UP because after an awesome Falls Count Anywhere Can't Be Stopped For Any Reason main event, THE FIEND has slayed the slayer to bring home the Universal Championship to the Firefly Funhouse. YOWIE WOWIE.

So yeah, there's your show. Sorry I didn't give the level of detail, humor, and pure awesomeness that you've all come to expect from yours truly. But man, I'm fuckin tired, guys. Wish me luck for work tonight, and hopefully I'll see y'all around in the Smackdown Discussion tomorrow night!
 
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.....you could have just asked me to do it. XD
 

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*Looks at Results*

Yep...

That will sure help everyone forget
about the Hell in a Cell match WWE...

& Hopefully this means Rollins will
keep his "Twitter Mouth" shut.

So...Who is ready to see Le$nar pin
the Fiend at Survivor Series after one
F-5?

?
 

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Very smart move by WWE finally. They fucked it up one time but this tonight makes it up almost entirely. I hope The Fiend has a long and succesful run because he truly deserves it.

Btw the main reasons for this decision are a big concern for Seth’s career. They put the title on Bray predominantly because of Seth’s absolute failure to connect with the fans and be the face of the company. It didn’t work one bit. HE is one of the reasons why Raw ratings are going downhill. No matter how good he was and is in-ring, his character work and charisma were not worthy of a world title.

Like JR said “Maybe one day he will be as over as his girlfriend”. And it’s absolutely true. A lot of the guys that are booked poorly are way more over than Rollins, including many women which is an additional concern. Even though I don’t see it as that, in the eyes of an average WWE viewer Seth is just a new Roman when it comes to non-wrestling abilities. Despite the wonders he did in the ring he just couldn’t compensate for that handicap.

According to reports Seth won’t be a world champion in a long period to come. Vince is dissapointed in him to the point where he might become a new main roster Finn Balor. But you can’t really blame him for that. This is still an entertainment bussines, if people don’t like you, you fall down.

Will rate this show once I watch it. Didn’t have time because of studying but really glad to see The Fiend rise.
 
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Bray shouldn't have won the belt honestly...
And that is an interesting opinion...which I do see the validity of...

However...while I'm not currently watching the WWE product...
I do have an opinion on this matter.

And for the record I understand MANY people like the Fiend...
& I will admit the character/concept is over like rover...even if
I think it is fucking stupid.

The Fiend winning the Universal title at Crown Jewel feels...off...
for a few reasons.

The first being that Crown Jewel airs at the most awkward time
for the American fans...which I'm guessing makes up the largest
percentage of the WWE fan base. So they put the Fiend over...
on possibly the most awkward "pay per view" in the entire
calendar year...

The second being that this literally feels like a reaction to the
fan reaction of Hell in a Cell...which seems odd considering
how the WWE hasn't really given a shit about fan reactions
for sometime now...

Case & Point: The main events of Wrestlemania 31 through
34...

The third is that any & all momentum Seth Rollins had has
now been flushed down the toilet...again. I mean his two
victories over Le$nar & his victory over Strowman mean
nothing as he was literally just defeated by Bray Wyatt in
lame ass mask...

In fact going by days...Kevin Owens has been a more
successful Universal Champion than Seth Rollins...

The fourth being that this entire situation has been rushed
beyond belief. The Fiend now has the top title on RAW...
after only wrestling 3 matches. Now I'm all for the WWE
actually taking something that their fans like & running
with it...(shame they didn't do that with Rusev Day) but
this is the very opposite of what they normally do.

The Fiend was a character who was already over so a
slow, drawn out build would have worked perfectly here.
Keep the Universal title on Rollins & have the Fiend work
his way through/up the RAW card & perhaps build to
Wrestlemania match with Rollins.

Hell...have the Fiend win the 2020 Royal Rumble after
entering at #1...or have him win an Elimination Chamber
match...you know...actually build him up over time as
an "unstoppable" monster...

Not just...

"The fans like this weird Wyatt shit for some reason."

"PUT THE RED FRUIT ROLL UP BELT ON HIM!!!"

& The fifth being STOP WITH THE RETINA BURNING, RED
VIRTUAL BOY VISION! That has to be a Vince idea...&
I say that because they didn't use it at SummerSlam &
everything was fine...but now we need blinding red lights
because...WHY? Why are they doing that? It isn't helping!

Anyway...that's my opinion on the situation & I just felt
like I needed to put it out there. If you disagree...then
that's cool...I don't expect anyone to agree me.

:thumbsup:
 

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Red light looks good. And Fiend winning here and not at HIAC was most likely the plan all along. Because yknow, they're trying to tell a story instead of just nonsensical fanservice
 

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And that is an interesting opinion...which I do see the validity of...

However...while I'm not currently watching the WWE product...
I do have an opinion on this matter.

And for the record I understand MANY people like the Fiend...
& I will admit the character/concept is over like rover...even if
I think it is fucking stupid.

The Fiend winning the Universal title at Crown Jewel feels...off...
for a few reasons.

The first being that Crown Jewel airs at the most awkward time
for the American fans...which I'm guessing makes up the largest
percentage of the WWE fan base. So they put the Fiend over...
on possibly the most awkward "pay per view" in the entire
calendar year...

The second being that this literally feels like a reaction to the
fan reaction of Hell in a Cell...which seems odd considering
how the WWE hasn't really given a shit about fan reactions
for sometime now...

Case & Point: The main events of Wrestlemania 31 through
34...

The third is that any & all momentum Seth Rollins had has
now been flushed down the toilet...again. I mean his two
victories over Le$nar & his victory over Strowman mean
nothing as he was literally just defeated by Bray Wyatt in
lame ass mask...

In fact going by days...Kevin Owens has been a more
successful Universal Champion than Seth Rollins...

The fourth being that this entire situation has been rushed
beyond belief. The Fiend now has the top title on RAW...
after only wrestling 3 matches. Now I'm all for the WWE
actually taking something that their fans like & running
with it...(shame they didn't do that with Rusev Day) but
this is the very opposite of what they normally do.

The Fiend was a character who was already over so a
slow, drawn out build would have worked perfectly here.
Keep the Universal title on Rollins & have the Fiend work
his way through/up the RAW card & perhaps build to
Wrestlemania match with Rollins.

Hell...have the Fiend win the 2020 Royal Rumble after
entering at #1...or have him win an Elimination Chamber
match...you know...actually build him up over time as
an "unstoppable" monster...

Not just...

"The fans like this weird Wyatt shit for some reason."

"PUT THE RED FRUIT ROLL UP BELT ON HIM!!!"

& The fifth being STOP WITH THE RETINA BURNING, RED
VIRTUAL BOY VISION! That has to be a Vince idea...&
I say that because they didn't use it at SummerSlam &
everything was fine...but now we need blinding red lights
because...WHY? Why are they doing that? It isn't helping!

Anyway...that's my opinion on the situation & I just felt
like I needed to put it out there. If you disagree...then
that's cool...I don't expect anyone to agree me.

:thumbsup:
Yeah...Bray shouldn't have won it because his gimmick isn't about the belt nor has any of his rivalries have been. The whole Bray v Seth feud was more or less about Seth having to overcome his demons and such really.

Also, Insane I don't really care if you disagree with me, but at least give me an explanation onto way, you disagree.
 

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Yeah...Bray shouldn't have won it because his gimmick isn't about the belt nor has any of his rivalries have been. The whole Bray v Seth feud was more or less about Seth having to overcome his demons and such really.

Also, Insane I don't really care if you disagree with me, but at least give me an explanation onto way, you disagree.
Fair enough.

To me they already booked themselves into a corner once before, there was no other choice but to have the fiend become champion, unless ofcourse you wanna kill any momentum.

In that match i feel like they totally redeemed the fiend, the match was alot better then hell in a cell, and also it was Halloween, The Fiend won the Universal Championship....on Halloween, you cant get more perfect then that.

I enjoyed the match and i felt the fiend had to win, if he didnt then he would be just as dead as shorty G and we would be right back where we started with wyatt, never winning the important matches. But thankfully thats not what happened, he won, as he should have.
 
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This show was very good. Lots of great wrestling and memorable moments. No silly booking either
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