Okada achieves the most 4 star+ matches in WoN history

[Comrade Khan]

 

[Comrade Khan]

143 4star+ matches

The fucking Goat

 

[Marty McFourth]

I can't think of a match I've seen of his that I haven't enjoyed tremendously. He has nice chemistry with so many guys. Absoutely love the Omega series that I've watched.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Kinda goes to show how worthless the 5* match idea is nowadays.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Kinda goes to show how worthless the 5* match idea is nowadays.

not sure I understand your point

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

not sure I understand your point

If 5* matches are that common then they're not really special, are they? When I think of a 5* match, I think of a match that stands out as a match I would show everyone in the history of Wrestling and say, *this* is a must-see match.

If every *really good* match is given 5*, then it kinda defeats the purpose of the 5* system, wouldn't you think?

 

[Comrade Khan]

Read the thread title again

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

 

[Smart Marx]

The whole system kinda falls apart not because of too many 4 or 5 star matches, but because there’s no limit on what the best match is anymore. He keeps upping it.

2, 3 and even 4 star matches only mean anything when you know what they’re in relation to as being the best.

In a 5-star system 4 is almost perfect. In 6, 4 is still above average. In a 7, 4 is just basically average etc.

And that’s all I’ll say on this as it’s his system, no big.

 

[Comrade Khan]

tbf I just see anything as 5 or more as the same lol, he went on some weird kick of busting his system but lately i don't think hes going above 5 often at all, thank god. anyways, this isn't supposed to be about Meltzer, it's supposed to be about how Okada is a fucking machine that shits out great matches as a standard as opposed to the occasion. hopefully we can get back to that now that the inevitable triggering has happened

 

[Smart Marx]

tbf I just see anything as 5 or more as the same lol, he went on some weird kick of busting his system but lately i don't think hes going above 5 often at all, thank god. anyways, this isn't supposed to be about Meltzer, it's supposed to be about how Okada is a fucking machine that shits out great matches as a standard as opposed to the occasion. hopefully we can get back to that now that the inevitable triggering has happened

I’m not triggered. A rating system needs a cap though for everything between 1 and the cap to mean whatever. I’d also say it’s absolutely about Meltzer. He’s the one who decided Okada had all these 4 stars, yeah?

I only commented because Grim said what he said and tbh that wouldn’t bother me at all. Lots of good matches don’t make said good matches not good, ya?

Good for him, Okada, though. I’ve only seen a handful of his matches and they’re all right from what I’ve seen.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I’m not triggered. A rating system needs a cap though for everything between 1 and the cap to mean whatever. I’d also say it’s absolutely about Meltzer. He’s the one who decided Okada had all these 4 stars, yeah?

I only commented because Grim said what he said and tbh that wouldn’t bother me at all. Lots of good matches don’t make said good matches not good, ya?

Good for him, Okada, though. I’ve only seen a handful of his matches and they’re all right from what I’ve seen.

I was more poking fun at Barry because I always expect some metlzer hate every time I post WON things with ratings. And ofc I agree with you on the former, wrestling been around for a while so there's going to be an insane amount of "instant classics" or however yo want to define a "perfect or near perfect" match. It does suck that he busted his system, and that its been around so long that you cant fairly compare his old rated matches vs tokyo dome stuff, for example. but hes also open to himself being bias so I always take some of the wwe hate and the pro-njpw stuff with a grain of salt when it comes to his ratings.

 

[Comrade Khan]

My point about it not being about meltzer was however, is why not discuss the performer instead of trying to downplay his achievements by negating the source. Obviously that's not always the intention, but thats how a lot of those posts come off and it's not really great conversation or discourse on the subject matter

 

[Deezy]

Someone has a Stan with a newsletter....big deal.

This entire metric is based off one mans subjective tastes.

 

[Brandon Blaze]

If 5* matches are that common then they're not really special, are they? When I think of a 5* match, I think of a match that stands out as a match I would show everyone in the history of Wrestling and say, *this* is a must-see match.

If every *really good* match is given 5*, then it kinda defeats the purpose of the 5* system, wouldn't you think?

It’s not all 5* matches… some are 4* matches.