My honest views on the Christian situation....

[Prodigy]

Alright, I've sat back, mainly kept my opinion to myself, but I'm at the end of my tether and thought I'd voice my opinions on the Christian situation....now before I get into this, let me re iterate I AM A CHRISTIAN FAN! and any of my views are totally based on what I feel right from a business stand point....so you can give me heat if you like, cry like a baby because you disagree, but at the end of the day the only people I will actually acknowledge are those who actually come up with a valid point not just some markish one sided rant which has points but little back up....here it goes...

At WWE Extreme Rules Christian won the WWE World Heavyweight Title, beating Alberto Del Rio, only to lose it on Smackdown two days later to Randy Orton a guy who I despise....there was a uproar from supposed Christian 'fans' and many fans said they would boycott Smackdown....I myself was disappointed as a fan of Christian and thought he should've not dropped the title. I then looked into the situation more and developed a few views, mainly the fact that Christian should've not won the title in the first place, but seeing as he did win it I thought he should've held it for a month to try and build himself with the title. Also I noticed a lot of markness...

But what if Alberto Del Rio had won the title?
This is something I keep saying over and over....if Alberto Del Rio had of won the title over Christian, half you false Christian fans would not of given a shit, you would of forgot about the fact Christian even had a shot...you're all too hyped up on whoever's champ, or whoever's being pushed...Del Rio was the hottest pushed, and primed for the title, so I guarantee none of you woulda cared had he won it and not Christian.

Not looking into it enough? Why didn't he deserve it?
What a lot of you are forgetting is WWE is SCRIPTED, it's a BUSINESS, and the superstars in the company, are carrying out a job, and as hard it is for a lot of you to believe, nothing is certain in a job, you do what you're told....besides doesn't prove it prove WWE's saying that anything can happen? It make's things more exciting and unpredictable....but wait, you all read the spoilers didn't you. Just think guys this might be a storyline just like Jericho said, and it's clear you're not looking into it enough....I've never been so surprised that people can get upset over a scripted show, seriously...It could all lead to a massive heel turn for Christian, in which he develops so much that he becomes deserving of the title so much......and that brings me to all the questions about why did he not deserve it....well I believe he's nearly there but just not yet...the thing is, whether he deserves it or not isn’t based on how long he’s been in the company, whether he’s carried brand or not, or if he’s put on X amount of fantastic matches. Whether he deserves it or not is based on whether or not he has ability to carry big main event title fued, and become the face of a company…don’t get me wrong he did a fantastic job as the face of ECW, but SMACKDOWN > ECW, in terms of size and I don’t think Christians ready for that….he needs more exposure in huge main events, without the title, just like he is getting now, as well as like what Cody Rhodes had with Rey Rey….this will get him ready for eventually holding the title, as I said how long you were in the company does not determine whether you get the title….none of you cared that DiBiase sr never got a World Title, yet Christian holds it and there’s an uproar? Like I said, some of you aren’t looking into it enough…..just give it time, and he will hold the title again. Just one more thing, I’m more pissed off that he got the title because Vince wanted Edge to have his moment with him at Extreme Rules, wouldn’t you guys rather of had him been given it for a better reason?….

Thoughts?

 

[Aniking]

First of all, I hate how it's listed as being a "2 day" title reign. Yeah Smackdown is taped on Wednesday, but that's all. The show is called FRIDAY Night Smackdown, it's on a FRIDAY, everything that happens on the show is seen on FRIDAY regardless of when the show's taped. So in my eyes, the title reign lasted 5 days, not 2. I know I'm arguing for something that's quite minor, but if you know me then you know I'm a bit of a statistician and I HATE when things like this are wrong.

Anyway, I don't think it would've made any sense whatsoever to give Del Rio the title. Although some superstars appear on the opposite brand they're rostered on, there's still a line separating the two brands. If Del Rio had beaten a Smackdown superstar that was already champion when he was just drafted, then I guess he would've dropped the title at the next pay-per-view when the previous champion used their rematch, meaning the title would now be back on Smackdown and Del Rio would focus on the WWE Championship. Even then, that would all beg the question "why give Del Rio a one-month title reign?".

Since Orton has been champion, the ratings for Smackdown have actually decreased. It was either the Smackdown Orton won the title or his first Smackdown as champion, it was the lowest Smackdown rating for 2011 and it really hasn't improved since. It's obvious that the WWE made a hugely successful decision to put the title on Christian, only to majorly override that by making one of the most stupidest decisions ever to take the title off Christian just days after winning it. There was no build up for Orton to take the title, he'd just come off a feud with CM Punk, and although he is the biggest face on Smackdown, he pretty much came along, got a title shot and took the title.

Now for those who don't know, there are 2 reasons why Orton got the title:
1) Vince McMahon and most of the creative writing staff don't see Christian as a big-time player. They consider him a man that can get the job done, but not as the top dog.
2) Orton was drafted to Smackdown as he was going to be the face of the brand, like John Cena is with RAW.

They had plenty of time to make all of that happen; giving Orton the title straight away has set them back if anything and the ratings prove that. If they allowed Christian to have just one PPV title defence against Mark Henry (logically the most suitable first opponent, although it would've been a tad boring), then drop it to Orton the PPV after, this whole situation would never have happened, the ratings wouldn't have dropped and we'd all be happy. But no, when the WWE make a decision that the majority of wrestling fans agree with, they immediately fuck it up.

Of course, we can argue that Christian was given the title because he has been long overdue and to top off Edge's farewell, but it was the logical thing to do. Del Rio should've been World Champion by now, that's a statement that doesn't even need to be debated, but there have just been things that have popped up and changed booking decisions probably for the better. It hasn't hurt Del Rio's credibility at all in my eyes, so that's a big plus for the WWE.

Now Prod, many of us have thought for so long that Christian should have been World Champion ages ago. You've been around long enough to know that. Some people jump on the bandwagon with whatever's going on, but I know for a fact that there were a lot of us waiting for Christian to become champion, and when he finally did you can't blame us for being very pleased with the decision. I'm quite surprised you're getting on your high horse and bad mouthing us because we whole heartedly agreed with the decision. Considering you claim to be a Christian fan, wouldn't you have wanted him to be champion? This I don't get.

I think we were all well within our rights to be outraged with Christian dropping the title in under a week, regardless of whether or not a storyline is being made from it. They pulled the trigger WAY too early, it could've been done further down the track when Christian was beginning to be built up as a respectable World Champion. Instead, they killed what could've been a promising title reign, one that so many fans have waited so long to see, and as a result it has impacted in the ratings.

If Christian's "not there yet", then he never will be. He's 36 years old; this isn't soccer/football where a goalkeeper is at their prime at this age. In wrestling that's an age where your best moments are behind you, yet Christian's best moment was killed... no, it was murdered before it could gain any traction. So what if the WWE is a company blah blah blah, at the end of the day it's all done to entertain their fans. Giving Christian the title was entertaining and well received; taking it off him days later was the exact opposite.

You can't compare Christian being ready to Cody Rhodes being ready, that's just silly. Christian hasn't been given a chance to prove himself as a main eventer, where Rhodes still needs to grow. Rhodes has time on his side as he's only 25, Christian doesn't have time on his side. The WWE should've taken advantage of Christian's popularity when they had the chance considering Orton has a good 5 years extra left than Christian does. Of course we would've loved Christian to get the title outside of the fact Edge was retiring, but the circumstances under which he became champion don't matter very much.

The point is, the WWE had a big chance to take advantage of what Christian offers, they had the chance to showcase him as the top dog on Smackdown (as ECW didn't mean shit), but instead they were too afraid to take a risk like we're all wrong. Obviously WWE creative and Vince McMahon understand the business more than any of us do, but they claim to do it for us yet whenever we voice our opinions on something, they give us what we want and majorly butcher it, or they ignore it. That's great.

 

[Prodigy]

Thanks for coming in and posting your honest thoughts AK, you are one of the first people who's backed Christian's claim up with reason....I'm not comparing Rhodes to Christian at all, I'm just saying Rhodes is being built for the main event and I feel Chrisitans fued with Orton will build him to the level where he is.....and yes I would've wanted him to be Champion. But I'd rather of had him done it in style then got it instantly, you know going on a lengthly fued with someone, and the finally capturing it, a mountain climbed and a title won.

 

[Aniking]

Christian did have a lengthy feud, and with Del Rio at that, albeit Edge was involved in the part of the feud that came after Christian returned from injury. The fact Christian won the title over Del Rio one-on-one after such a long rivalry is something that many people have overlooked, probably even WWE themselves. The whole Christian/Del Rio thing had gone on for a while and they had many matches where Christian actually beat Del Rio, and they were quite important victories regarding the main Smackdown feud in Edge & Del Rio.

If you think about how it all worked, if Christian wasn't there to have Edge's back, Edge would've lost the title probably before Wrestlemania when he was apparently supposed to. Basically, Christian becoming champion was like a reward for his long service off the screen and to build his character on-screen. Of course, we know how it all went...

 

[TheGoldStandard]

This has been bugging me for a while. Did WWE know Edge was going to retire going into Wrestlemania? If they didn't, why wouldn't they just add Christian into the match with Del Rio. Have Christian win the title there and give him the biggest moment of his career. That would be something that wouldv'e topped everything he has ever done. Then have him at least have the title for a few weeks, before figuring out what to do with him. In my opinion it wouldv'e made the best sense.

I do think it was a bullshit move to put the title on Orton after a quick title reign. But in all honestly, if it wouldv'e have happened the next week I would be okay with it. Why? Let Christian have ONE Smackdown show with him as champion. Give him ONE show to see how the ratings wouldv'e been. Since the WWE is all about ratings and making money. In my view Christian is very marketable in the fans eyes. But they really don't trust him to be the focal point of their show. WWE took a HUGE chance at putting the WWE Title on The Miz. Looked what it got them. Miz was a great champion for the 5+ months he was champion. Plus that was on their main show. If they didn't have any faith in Christian carrying their second show, Christian should be worried what they are going to do with him. Even though I see him going between a main event/mid-card status. Much like what Rey Mysterio is now.

McMahon is really making a joke out of Christian. We all know McMahon doesn't see much in Christian. We all know Christian returning to WWE and then ECW was punishment for him leaving. Christian is something that I never see quit in a match. No matter who is he wrestling against, he brings the best out of everyone. I would even say this. Christian/Mark Henry could be a really good match. Christian's attitude is something the WWE wants, but he doesn't have the look they want.

Christian was ALWAYS the second fiddle to Edge. Even in the Brood, I knew Edge was going to be the big star of the group. We all seen that it was right. WWE had their chance at a HUGE feud between Edge/Christian. But we will never see it again. The WWE wasted a golden chance at giving something the fans wouldv'e LOVED. Instead of having 4 months of Kane/Edge Blue feud, they couldv'e done something with Christian. They just have no faith in the man.

My last point is this. Christian was only given the World Title because of Edge. It was probably one last favor the WWE would do for Edge. Because if Del Rio wasn't drafted to Raw, he wouldv'e won the title anyway. That is was I agree with Prodigy. Del Rio deserves a title reign as WWE or World Champion. It doesn't matter, they have been stringing him along for too long. But if Del Rio did win at Extreme Rules, people wouldn't be all up in arms about Christian losing. Del Rio has a much brighter future in the WWE than Christian does. Del Rio is young, has the look, can talk, and is talented. Everything the WWE wants.

Why is everyone pissed about Dolph Ziggler's 10 minute title reign? I know he has hasn't been through what Christian has. But its kinda the same thing.