MVP vs Regal?

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MikeRaw

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This week, we saw MVP get off to a promising start on Raw, continuing from where he was last week. But then, it became clear they're going to have him feud with William Regal. I don't have anything against Regal, but c'mon. I said this in my Raw Review, and that's that if Regal was the GM it wouldn't be so bad. It could be similar to the Kennedy/Regal feud from last May. But as of now, Regal has really been doing nothing. Look, obviously I want MVP in the main event scene. I've made that clear. And last week looked hopeful. But I realise it doesn't mean it's going to happen. That's fine. But to go from what he was at last week, all the way fown to a feud with Regal sucks. If they're not gonna have him in a few top storylines (which is stupid, becauswe with HBK and Triple H taking time off, there's some empty main event spots) then they should at least have him in a higher up feud, against some guys worth while. Who? I don't know, that's for WWE to figure out.
Anyone a bit pissed at what they're doing with MVP now?
 

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Yes, I'm pissed with what they're doing with MVP. Don't get me wrong, I fully expect MVP vs Regal to be 10 shades of awesome, but in less than an hour, MVP went from a potential feud with Legacy, to a feud with Regal.

I love Regal, I think he's great on the mic and in the ring, but this feud does NOTHING to help elevate MVP. Ultimately, he'll end up in pretty much the same position as he was on SD not that long ago.
 

noumenon

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They've got the ultimate hard on for Regal and mid-card titles so this honestly doesn't shock me in the least bit. However, I was really hoping for them to actually fucking finish something for once. They're throwing so many random people into this Legacy thing right now that it's like a revolving door of shit. MVP/Shane/Batista may be a team OmGeez.!! BUT WAIT! NOW REGAL IS INVOLVED FOR NO FUCKING REASON!
They really should have let this whole MVP/Priceless thing run it's course before starting up a feud between he and Regal. I can only hope that perhaps they're using Regal to take the belt off of him and clear him up for a main event push.
 

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how about theyre just gonna fued mvp with regal so he can drop the US title and go onto bigger and better things? ie, further feud with legacy
 

MikeRaw

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That won't happen. If he was going to feud with Legacy, he wouldn't drop the title first. How would you justify losing to a lowcard guy like Regal, and suddenly being in the WWE title picture?
 

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Id rather see him feud with Regal than feud with CAWdy Rhodes.
 

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That won't happen. If he was going to feud with Legacy, he wouldn't drop the title first. How would you justify losing to a lowcard guy like Regal, and suddenly being in the WWE title picture?

Since when was Regal a "low card" guy????

....Just dropped the IC title, was last years KOTR (at which time he was bordering on a ME push) AND a recent GM.

...How can you justify a loss, you ask? Easy, have Regal cheat.



MVP clashing with Regal or Miz was innevitable... They're the only credible midcard heels on Raw for MVP to drop the US title to (Unless someone's thinking Kendrick, Noble, Chavo, Santino and such?) and lets' face it, should he get the push we're hoping for they're not gonna make him a dual champ 1st time round.


Besides, MVP/Regal is recipe for a sweet fued.
 

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Another thing I'm thinking is that I really don't see MVP dropping the title to Regal. When you think about it, there really aren't any other mid-card faces on RAW right now....unless of course Kennedy comes along to fill that void. Aside from maybe Kofi, the RAW roster is stacked with mid card heels... Matt Hardy, Regal, Kendrick...
Giving Regal the title right now and pushing MVP into the main event would probably leave the US title stagnant right now.
 

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^Wrong, it opens up for guys like Carlito to also be in the mix (he wont be tag champ the ENTIRE year), and Primo for that matter. Or maybe MVP keeps the belt and vacates it if/when he wins the WWE Championship, and they have a tournament for the US Title.

MVP vs. Regal is a sweet ass feud, and like I said in the other thread, this one will be MVP's most physical feud. Nobody here can deny that Regal may be the most ferocious attacker in the WWE. He throws hands, forearms, elbows, knees, kicks, chops... most of his shit sells really well (hell, he might even connect, we've seen him in some real ones before). Regal's still big overseas, so MVP can gain respect worldwide with a feud against Regal.

It could be what he really needs to finally prove himself to Vince. They love Regal, first of all. Secondly, MVP's most physical challenge to date was against Matt Hardy, and they toned down on Matt taking hits in that feud.

It'll let WWE see JUST how versatile and tough MVP is. Everyone is writing it off now, we KNOW he wont be fighting Priceless in a handicap match at Judgment Day, and Batista's a lock for the WWE Championship match... they're not going to throw MVP into that match as well. He's got the US Belt on his waist, let him defend it at his first PPV on Raw and go from there.

I mean, he DID say in his best line in his first promo that if Batista doesn't pick up the belt at Judgment Day, that he has no problem handlin' his. Just be patient you fucks!
 

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Since when was Regal a "low card" guy????

....Just dropped the IC title, was last years KOTR (at which time he was bordering on a ME push) AND a recent GM.

...How can you justify a loss, you ask? Easy, have Regal cheat.

MVP clashing with Regal or Miz was innevitable... They're the only credible midcard heels on Raw for MVP to drop the US title to (Unless someone's thinking Kendrick, Noble, Chavo, Santino and such?) and lets' face it, should he get the push we're hoping for they're not gonna make him a dual champ 1st time round.

Besides, MVP/Regal is recipe for a sweet fued.
Since when? Since he's hardly even been on Raw, and hasn't been in a feud, since last October. The bottom line is though, he's been there and done that. It's been almsot 3 years of that. I'm not shitting all over Regal, I like him, but at this stage, he's just a "sporaidic appearance" type guy, and the thing is, this, after all the momentum MVP has gained lately, it's putting him back, maybe even further than he was before. I'm not saying it won't be a good feud. And you bring up a good point about Regal cheating. I'll give you that, because that is a good way to drop the title while still having MVP look good, but I still stand by the fact that this is just a standstill, or step back, because it's the same types of feuds MVP has been in for his whole career so far. There's a perfect oppurtunity to move up (and I'm not saying he even has to win a title, because Orton is the right guy for now), but with HHH and HBK out for a while, there's a big whole in the main event scene, and MVP could've easily used hsi recent momentum to fill them.
 
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The whole MVP legacy segment was a teaser for things to come later this year but for now lets just sit back and enjoy the regal MVP feud.... Regal makes all of his opponents look good and Raw needs a good mid card feud right now and these two guys are perfect for the job
 

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I like this feud. I really wasn't feeling MVP jumping right into the ME scene right off the back. I would love to see a few more mid-card feuds for MVP with legitimate heel contenders like Regal, Matt and then build him up to a feud with the likes of HBK or someone his size where he can have great matches. I like MVP and think he has potential but throwing him right into the ME scene leaves so much room for failure and a big let down. I think this actually gives him more time to hone his skills. I like this move. Thumbs up from me.
 

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^^^Indeed. No immediate rush IMO. Just nice to see they are happy for him to mix with the big boys last week.

Since when? Since he's hardly even been on Raw, and hasn't been in a feud, since last October.

He didn't drop the IC belt to Punk until Jan.

The bottom line is though, he's been there and done that. It's been almsot 3 years of that.

Seems appropriate that I point out his GM run and KOTR title again..... Hardly the 'same old'...


I'm not shitting all over Regal, I like him, but at this stage, he's just a "sporaidic appearance" type guy, and the thing is, this, after all the momentum MVP has gained lately, it's putting him back, maybe even further than he was before.

I still don't see how you can class Regal as a low card guy.... That to me is guys like Noble, Kendrick, Jesse & Festus, R-Truth or some shit.

Regal is simply established; not to mention a go-to-guy when they're trying to make others look good/credible (Look no further than the Punk fued for an example).

Another slant... When's the last time you saw Regal squashed by someone like Cena or Batista? ...Conversely, he did hang tough with HHH on Raw last year.


When you think about it, there really aren't any other mid-card faces on RAW right now....unless of course Kennedy comes along to fill that void. Aside from maybe Kofi, the RAW roster is stacked with mid card heels... Matt Hardy, Regal, Kendrick...
Giving Regal the title right now and pushing MVP into the main event would probably leave the US title stagnant right now.

Why discount Kofi? He's probably the best candidate for the US title on the Raw roster right now:

a) He's over.
b) He's at a level when it can still be considered a push of sorts. (A long successful reign where he mows down a bunch of the formentioned abundance of heels would do wonders for him.)
c) He's never held it before.
 

MikeRaw

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^^^Indeed. No immediate rush IMO. Just nice to see they are happy for him to mix with the big boys last week.

He didn't drop the IC belt to Punk until Jan.

Seems appropriate that I point out his GM run and KOTR title again..... Hardly the 'same old'...


I still don't see how you can class Regal as a low card guy.... That to me is guys like Noble, Kendrick, Jesse & Festus, R-Truth or some shit.

Regal is simply established; not to mention a go-to-guy when they're trying to make others look good/credible (Look no further than the Punk fued for an example).

Another slant... When's the last time you saw Regal squashed by someone like Cena or Batista? ...Conversely, he did hang tough with HHH on Raw last year.

What is it you're not getting? I'm not saying anything bad from Regal, other than saying he's a low card-mid card guy. That's true. He's not a main eventer, so depending on what he's going, he's either a lowcard or midcard guy, and at this point in time, I'd see him more as a lowcard guy (although this feud could push him back up to midcard). Again, I like Regal, I'm just saying that these are the same types of feuds MVP has been in for quite a while. Physical, good matches, some entertainment, and overall, not doing any harm to his career. But they just aren't doing much good at this point either. He's already proven pretty much everything in the midcard. He's had all the types of feuds there is to have, and like I said, with the momentum he has going, shaving him ride it and continue in the main event scene for a while would've worked fine IMO. This isn't going to hurt his career, and I'm sure it'll entertain us. There's better options though, because really, I just think he's done this type of stuff before.


Why discount Kofi? He's probably the best candidate for the US title on the Raw roster right now:

a) He's over.
b) He's at a level when it can still be considered a push of sorts. (A long successful reign where he mows down a bunch of the formentioned abundance of heels would be wonders for him.)
c) He's never held it before.
I know that was in response to noumenon, but I have to ask.. Are you drunk as you're typing that part? Lol. He never discounted Kofi at all. What he said was:
Aside from maybe Kofi, the RAW roster is stacked with mid card heels...
How do you get him discounting Kofi out of that? Lol. What he said was, right now, Kofi is the only mid card face, as in, aside from him, everyone else in the midcard is heel.
 

Airfixx

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Firstly, you initially said Regal was a "low card" guy. He isn't.

Secondly, Noum' went on to say:

"Giving Regal the title right now and pushing MVP into the main event would probably leave the US title stagnant right now."

My SOBER point was that the answer was staring him right in the face: Regal as transitional Champ then > Kofi. (...and MVPs free to challenge for the WWE title.)