Many Things Into One

[Big Red Jericho Punk]

A few things have been crossing my mind and i just want to see what everyone thinks. These topics haven't really been brought up so let me break it down into five things.

1. I'm really starting to feel that Zach Ryder is getting seriously stale. I was so big on Ryder when he was trying to get on TV and how funny he was. If anyone remembers that show in June at Nassau when Austin was GM, everyone was screaming "We Want Ryder". I was on my feet screaming the same thing. Then at MSG in Survivor Series, I was screaming "We Want Ryder". So I've been in support of this guy for a while, but now he has gotten seriously stale. The main reason could be because they are not letting him be himself. They are making him into this guy that isn't really a human, he's just a clown. They are not letting him be his natural self which was the problem with Dolph Ziggler when he started getting good air time around 09 to 10. It wasn't until his Edge feud, he started to sound more natural. Ryder is become really annoying and that joke about the ER with Swagger was horrific. Now with this thing with Eve, it's going downhill for Ryder. I'm still supporting him and being proud of him, but they need to let him be more natural.

2. Drew McIntyre slowly turning face? As a huge McIntyre fan, I'm so happy that he's back on TV. He is one of the best young stars WWE has and he needs to be used. I'm not sure how he can pull off a face move and I really hope he doesn't lose his entrance because it's amazing but anything to get him back on the rise. McIntyre right now reminds me of MVP with this losing streak which means he may turn face. I'm interested to see where they go with this, hopefully Drew is back on the rise.

3. 2012 Who do you want back minus Brock? Who would you like to see back in the WWE? One guy that really has caught my eye is Carlito which is odd because he was at his best when I wasn't watching between 2006 and 2008. When he was on the Art Of Wrestling which is Colt Cabana's podcast, he really caught my eye on how cool he was. Then I watched some matches and promos, then realized this guy was awesome. It's a shame they stopped pushing him and really didn't do anything for him. He is someone they let slip out of their fingers which is the same thing for MVP. Other guys I would like to see back includes MVP because he was someone I would usually watch. Also just like Carlito, I'd prefer he come back as a heel because he was gold. Other two guys that would be nice to see back are Colt Cabana and Cliff Compton. It's a shame Cliff would never go back according to interviews but he was really talented as Domino. Colt is someone that may have a chance to make it back someday, but he just may not due to people not understanding him. He's so popular yet WWE wants nothing to do with him. He wouldn't be a main eventer but he would be really over with the crowd. Those are some of my picks right there who I'd like to see return.

The only other thing I'll mention is what do you guys think about Curt Hawkins? I'm always look into new young talent and he really impresses me. I do realize he's not very young and he's been with the company for a while now. I'd like to see him feud with Zach over how jealous he is of Zach's success. It would be a really cool and it would make Hawkins relevant also over as a heel. I'm hoping for that feud in 2012.

Other than that, wrestling is going in the right direction and i'm very happy as a fan right now.

 

[Andrew]

1. I strongly agree about Ryder becoming stale, he pushed himself to the limit to get this far and now WWE has noticed he is a little stale so they decide to throw him in a storyline with Eve. Talks has it Eve will turn heel so this could lead to her heel turn or something, I found the ER joke lame as well, I hope Swagger takes the belt off him. While Ryder's improved in the ring, I still feel like more needs to be shown.

2. McIntyre was face before he came into WWE, look up Drew Galloway on Youtube. He was a great face and I personally wouldn't mind it. I'm a fan of Drew and I hate the fact he's been buried due to his split with Tiffany. I really hope Drew is used a bit more in the upcoming weeks and really make him into something.

3. Nice point on Carlito, I'd love him to come back he could easily form a stable with Epico & Primo however have Carlito wrestle solo. Colt's been talked about and so has Chris Hero but Chris Hero is signed to ROH again now... I'd love to see RVD come back and I think that's the only one I'd actually enjoy. I'm not expecting many returns this year.

4. Hawkins is currently tagging with Tyler Reks which is quite enjoyable, I'd love to see them move onto the main roster and win the belt. If they do go seperate ways then a Hawkins/Ryder feud could be something. Hawkins has improved on the mic a bit and Hawkins is under-rated as hell, this is why I tune into NXT and Superstars just to watch Hawkins & Reks.

 

[Dale]

1. Never been a Ryder or Riot guy but i'm willing to let him have a spot in the midcard as I think that's all his gimmick should allow him and he's most certainly earned it. One thing I hate though is that i'm sicking of seeing and hearing Cena & Punk being all over nuts. Cut the rope and let the kid sink or swim on his own in the midcard and please for the love of god, stop putting him in the main events.

2. Absolutely hated Drew since he came onto the roster and I just found him so bland in all aspects, but he eventually won me over towards the end of his SmackDown run as he seemed to take it up a notch or two in the ring and I loved his aggresive looking style but as luck would have it, he was drafted over to RAW and never used. Really don't see him turning face either.

3. Always been a fan of Carlito and thought he was pretty much the total package when he could be motivated. Will never ever forget the time he was buried by HHH in a match where Carlito was the only one allowed to use weapons. I'd love Carlito back, Brock obviously, MVP & RVD to an extent aswell as Flair to be the manager of someone.

 

[Defiant]

1. Yes Ryder is becoming stale quickly. I never really saw what people loved about him, but I supported him nonetheless because he is someone who managed to get themselves over through unconventional means, using social media like no one else has. He got noticed by being unique. But he's definately being pushed a little too strong and his character is just too one-dimensional and, like you said, not grounded in reality enough to handle it. I think the fact that he's needed Cena's intervention on occassion doesn't help his credability either. What Ryder needs now, especially now that he is the U.S. champ, is a solid fued to continue any interest in him. If they keep having him be nothing more than a clown and a comedy device for backstage segments then he will quickly become the new Santino.

2. Haven't watched Smackdown in a bit over a month so I don't know how McIntyre's face turn is going. But it definately sounds interesting. I'm always skeptic about heels turning face but it seems like every time I get proven wrong (MVP, Carlito, recently R-Truth, etc). The only difference with Drew compared to past heel-face turns is that I'm not sure Drew has the charisma to pull it off. He just seems like a natural heel to me with the slow, graceful movements and intense glare. We'll just have to wait and see how it goes. Whatever gets him on TV, I suppose.

3. Agree on Carlito. I loved him. But he must, MUST spit his apple in people's faces again. That was his trademark, that was what set him apart from other heels imo, the fact that he would literally spit in just about anyone's face. Unfortunately I can't recall him even doing that once during his last 1 or 2 years in the company, I assume they wanted to have him move away from that but it really hurt him, he became just another heel. If Carlito was to return I do not want to see him treated like he was during his final days, although I'm aware that he had behavioural problems.

4. I've only caught the odd Hawkins match on Superstars so I don't really know much about him, but I really like his look. I just need to hear some of his mic work and I'll get a better idea of him, but I think he deserves a chance.

 

[PHX]

Just gonna comment on the Ryder thing right now will get to the other stuff later but man if Ryder is getting stale then everything is gonna get stale to you. He hasn't been on T.V regularly all that long so he's having to establish stuff that you may have been seeing him do on his youtube show and such. I'd get your point about him if he's been doing the same exact thing on T.V for say a year straight but this has only been a few months as far as consistently on T.V so I'm not exactly understanding what you're expecting from him.

 

[Big Red Jericho Punk]

My issue with Ryder is when he talks, he doesn't sound natural at all. It seems like he's just going from a script and trying too hard to act. He's not being this normal guy that he can be. He's just trying way too hard right now and seems to be pressing. I'm not sure what you mean by everything is going to get stale for me. I'm probably one of the few positive guys when it comes to wrestling. I'm usually someone that enjoys most things so I'll be fine. The more they let him be himself and get an actual feud, then it will be better for him. A feud against Swagger would be really good to see because Swagger is very hungry and is looking to prove himself back to relevance. My dream feud for 2012 would be to put Hawkins against him, but it looks like will see Reks and Hawkins try to get on TV through tag team division. I'm just expecting Ryder to be more entertaining instead of just saying the same thing. He could use more exposure in mid card, so I won't totally get on his back.

Dale, I'll absolutely agree with you about Drew beginning his career. I used to do a thing called The Big Red Review for like six months recapping Smackdown and everything going on. Drew was a consistent punch line guy for me because he was so bland on the mic and boring in the ring. He started to impress me more when the spot light was less on him. That's when he got more aggressive and started to really impress me. I'll admit I do go crazy and favor people if they have great entrance music, so I've never fully hated McIntyre when he debuted the entrance but still he wasn't very enjoyable. Ever since December 2010, I've really started to enjoy his week (September to November, I was on and off with wrestling because of how bad the Nexus angle was and Jericho leaving also Punk not being on TV much).

I'm happy everyone agreed on me with Carlito. Thankfully, I wasn't into wrestling when Triple H buried him so much. He always was enjoyable to watch and had some great moments in the ring. Even before he left the company, it was cool how he did like a mini shoot on Cena in his return. It wasn't anything over the top, but he reminded Cena how he's not liked. Then I'll never forget he stopped a match with Primo and they walked off re uniting again. It's a shame that he left and probably won't come back for a while, but it would be "Cool". As for the spitting of apples thing, that was so cool and he would probably bring it back again. I'll never forget he spit in Heath Slater's face on NXT and Heath almost cried. RVD will probably come back and I'll be excited, but I'm not expecting much from him. If guys like Carlito or Colt came back, I'd probably mark out a bit because these guys can bring it and really entertain. RVD is still good, but I've heard he's really slacking lately and not performing well. I'm not sure if he can last for even a short stint with WWE, but he could prove me wrong. I'll still be a fan for RVD regardless and it would be cool to see him on Smackdown. I can't think of anyone else, obviously won't bring up Batista because I'm very against him. The same goes for Lashley because he never really appealed to me. This may seem odd but I'd still LOVE to see John Morrison return. Many people dislike John, but I'll always be a fan of his. He really stepped up his game from late 2010 to early 2011. He was really enjoyable to watch and really seemed to become a force on Raw, sadly that didn't happen. If he returned, hopefully he step up even more.

 

[PHX]

Meany everything is gonna get stale to you if it's taken you this quick to find Ryder stale considering I don't think he's been on T.V long enough the way he currently is to be deemed that is all I meant.

Now as far as who should comeback if there was ever a time for Carlito to comeback this would be the time with his family being a tag team right now being groomed to be tag champions. I'd only like to see him back as long as he doesn't have that I barely give a shit attitude he kept having in WWE.

As far as Drew goes I don't know if they are turning him face or if he'd work as a face but the guy is a solid talent overall just couldn't get over which is why to me he'd be the perfect person to take Dolph's place in Vickie's little stable since Dolph doesn't really need her anymore.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Ryder stale? When did not pushing someone who is supposed to be a midcarder to the limit make them stale? He's just stuck in an awful storyline and his goofy personality is killing him with Eve. Stale is doing the same thing every night until it gets old which is WHY people call Cena stale. Get your terms right... I'm sure there is a much better word to explain Ryder's current position.

 

[Troy]

1. I don't think that Ryder is stale at the moment, he hasn't been on tv for that long and he has been moving through different storylines and feuds during that time. The issue now is finding a good opponent for him to work with for the next month or two leading into WM.

2. McIntyre as a face works for me, McIntyre as a heel works for me, I just want him back on tv winning matches and moving up the card. It is crazy how far down the card he has fallen in the past year, he went from being called the Chosen One by Vince to working Superstars. Hopefully this is the year where he gets back into contention for at least the IC title.

3. If Carlito has the right attitude then it would be good seeing him back in WWE. They can easily put him in a stable with his brother and cousin and have him lead them, they fight for the tag team titles whilst he goes for the IC title. I would love to see Colt Cabana back as well since he is always so entertaining and would be a fun midcarder.

4. Hawkins and Reks aren't a bad tag team but they need more exposure. They need to get on RAW or Smackdown rather than being stuck on Superstars and NXT.

 

[Isabellas2007]

The main downside I have found is they are stale in the story lines all together. The creative team does not really seem to be doing much to change anything around. However, I hope this brings about some change because it would be great for the wrestlers to get the proper recognition they deserve!