Lil Wayne Arguement

[Montana]

Is lil wayne the greatest rapper today? I think not. Personally i think him selling a million copies, is bs, and his label bought about half of those. Carter III is his best album, but how is lil wayne the best, when he's dropped so much average material? 2pac, Biggie, Jayz, DMX, Eminem, and all the legends drop classics, but what has wayne dropped???

The Block is hot

1. Intro - (featuring Big Tymers)
2. Tha Block Is Hot
3. Loud Pipes - (featuring Big Tymers/Juvenile/B.G.)
4. Watcha Wanna Do
5. Kisha - (featuring The Hot Boys)
6. High Beamin' - (featuring B.G.)
7. Light's Off
8. F*** Tha World
9. Remember Me - (featuring B.G.)
10. Respect Us - (featuring Juvenile)
11. Drop It Like Is Hot - (featuring B.G./Mannie Fresh)
12. Young Playa - (featuring Big Tymers)
13. Enemy Turf - (featuring Juvenile)
14. Not Like Me - (featuring Big Tymers)
15. Come On - (featuring B.G.)
16. Up to Me
17. You Want War - (featuring Turk)



Lights out

1. Intro (Watch Them People)
2. Get Off the Corner
3. On the Grind
4. Hit U Up - (featuring Hot Boys)
5. Everything
6. F**K Wit Me Now
7. Lil One - (featuring Big Tymers)
8. Break Me Off - (featuring Big Tymers & Unplugged)
9. Skit
10. Wish You Would
11. Grown Man
12. Shine - (featuring Hot Boys)
13. Jump Jiggy
14. Realized
15. Tha Blues
16. Let's Go - (featuring Big Tymers)
17. Biznite
18. Act a A - (featuring B.G.)
19. Beef


500 degreez

1. Fly Talkin'
2. Look at Me
3. Way of Life - (featuring Big Tymers/TQ)
4. Big Tigger Live on the Radio
5. Gangsta and Pimps - (featuring Baby)
6. Lovely
7. Gangsta S*** - (featuring Petey Pablo)
8. Big Tigger Live on the Radio
9. Bloodline
10. Where You At
11. Worry Me
12. 500 Degreez
13. Go Hard
14. Young'n Blues
15. Believe That - (featuring Blaque/Mannie Fresh)
16. Rob Nice Live on the Radio
17. F*** You - (featuring Big Tymers)
18. What Does Life Mean to Me - (featuring TQ/Big Tymers)
19. Get That Dough - (featuring Baby/Tateeze/Cristal)
20. Fo Sheezy
21. Fly Talkin' Go Home

Carter I

1. Walk In
2. Go DJ
3. This Is the Carter - (with Mannie Fresh)
4. Bm J.R.
5. On the Block #2
6. I Miss My Dawgs - (with Reel)
7. We Don't - (with Baby)
8. On My Own - (with Reel)
9. Tha Heat
10. Cash Money Millionaires
11. Inside
12. Bring It Back - (with Mannie Fresh)
13. Who Wanna
14. On the Block #2
15. Get Down - (with Baby)
16. Snitch
17. Hoes - (with Mannie Fresh)
18. Only Way - (with Baby)
19. Earthquake
20. Ain"T That a Bi**H
21. Walk Out

Carter II

Tha Mobb
2. Fly In
3. Money on My Mind
4. Fireman
5. Mo Fire
6. On Tha Block #1
7. Best Rapper Alive
8. Lock and Load - (with Kurupt)
9. Oh No
10. Grown Man - (with Currency)
11. On Tha Block #2
12. Hit em Up
13. Carter II
14. Hustler Musik
15. Receipt
16. Shooter
17. Weezy Baby - (with Nikki)
18. On Tha Block #3
19. I'm a Dboy - (with BirdMan)
20. Feel Me
21. Get Over - (with Nikki)
22. Fly Out

Carter III

1. 3 Peat
2. Mr. Carter - (featuring Jay-Z)
3. Milli, A
4. Got Money - (featuring T-Pain)
5. Comfortable - (featuring Babyface)
6. Dr. Carter
7. Phone Home
8. Tie My Hands - (featuring Robin Thicke)
9. Mrs. Officer
10. Let The Beat Build
11. Shoot Me Down - (featuring D.Smih)
12. Lollipop - (featuring Static Major)
13. LA LA - (featuring Brisco/Busta Rhymes)
14. Playn With Fire - (featuring Betty Wright)
15. You Ain't Got Nuthin On Me - (featuring Fabolous/Juelz Santana)
16. Dontgetit


Im only counting like one hit per album, two at the most. 6 albums over 9 years, with like 8 semi hits. His biggest songs weren't his own, he was just featured on the song.


So do you love/hate wayne and why. I think wayne is ok, but track for track lil wayne just isn't the greatest rapper out now. You can bring up the commercial sucess arguement too. You can bring up all the mixtapes. I guess im curious to see why lil wayne fans rate him so high.

 

[Dre]

Just to edit it a little bit for you, cause you missed some of his hits.


The Block is hot

1. Intro - (featuring Big Tymers)
2. Tha Block Is Hot
3. Loud Pipes - (featuring Big Tymers/Juvenile/B.G.)
4. Watcha Wanna Do
5. Kisha - (featuring The Hot Boys)
6. High Beamin' - (featuring B.G.)
7. Light's Off
8. F*** Tha World
9. Remember Me - (featuring B.G.)
10. Respect Us - (featuring Juvenile)
11. Drop It Like Is Hot - (featuring B.G./Mannie Fresh)
12. Young Playa - (featuring Big Tymers)
13. Enemy Turf - (featuring Juvenile)
14. Not Like Me - (featuring Big Tymers)
15. Come On - (featuring B.G.)
16. Up to Me
17. You Want War - (featuring Turk)



Lights out

1. Intro (Watch Them People)
2. Get Off the Corner
3. On the Grind
4. Hit U Up - (featuring Hot Boys)
5. Everything
6. F**K Wit Me Now
7. Lil One - (featuring Big Tymers)
8. Break Me Off - (featuring Big Tymers & Unplugged)
9. Skit
10. Wish You Would
11. Grown Man
12. Shine - (featuring Hot Boys)
13. Jump Jiggy
14. Realized
15. Tha Blues
16. Let's Go - (featuring Big Tymers)
17. Biznite
18. Act a A - (featuring B.G.)
19. Beef


500 degreez

1. Fly Talkin'
2. Look at Me
3. Way of Life - (featuring Big Tymers/TQ)
4. Big Tigger Live on the Radio
5. Gangsta and Pimps - (featuring Baby)
6. Lovely
7. Gangsta S*** - (featuring Petey Pablo)
8. Big Tigger Live on the Radio
9. Bloodline
10. Where You At
11. Worry Me
12. 500 Degreez
13. Go Hard
14. Young'n Blues
15. Believe That - (featuring Blaque/Mannie Fresh)
16. Rob Nice Live on the Radio
17. F*** You - (featuring Big Tymers)
18. What Does Life Mean to Me - (featuring TQ/Big Tymers)
19. Get That Dough - (featuring Baby/Tateeze/Cristal)
20. Fo Sheezy
21. Fly Talkin' Go Home

Carter I

1. Walk In
2. Go DJ
3. This Is the Carter - (with Mannie Fresh)
4. Bm J.R.
5. On the Block #2
6. I Miss My Dawgs - (with Reel)
7. We Don't - (with Baby)
8. On My Own - (with Reel)
9. Tha Heat
10. Cash Money Millionaires
11. Inside
12. Bring It Back - (with Mannie Fresh)
13. Who Wanna
14. On the Block #2
15. Get Down - (with Baby)
16. Snitch
17. Hoes - (with Mannie Fresh)
18. Only Way - (with Baby)
19. Earthquake
20. Ain"T That a Bi**H
21. Walk Out

Carter II

Tha Mobb
2. Fly In
3. Money on My Mind
4. Fireman
5. Mo Fire
6. On Tha Block #1
7. Best Rapper Alive
8. Lock and Load - (with Kurupt)
9. Oh No
10. Grown Man - (with Currency)
11. On Tha Block #2
12. Hit em Up
13. Carter II
14. Hustler Musik
15. Receipt
16. Shooter
17. Weezy Baby - (with Nikki)
18. On Tha Block #3
19. I'm a Dboy - (with BirdMan)
20. Feel Me
21. Get Over - (with Nikki)
22. Fly Out

Carter III

1. 3 Peat
2. Mr. Carter - (featuring Jay-Z)
3. Milli, A
4. Got Money - (featuring T-Pain)
5. Comfortable - (featuring Babyface)
6. Dr. Carter
7. Phone Home
8. Tie My Hands - (featuring Robin Thicke)
9. Mrs. Officer
10. Let The Beat Build
11. Shoot Me Down - (featuring D.Smih)
12. Lollipop - (featuring Static Major)
13. LA LA - (featuring Brisco/Busta Rhymes)
14. Playn With Fire - (featuring Betty Wright)
15. You Ain't Got Nuthin On Me - (featuring Fabolous/Juelz Santana)
16. Dontgetit


As for the question, he is not the best rapper alive. When he drop his 2nd single call Bring it Back (Tha Carter II), He claimed that he was the best rapper alive and ever since than, people been jumping on the band wagon. That shows me that people don't have the sense about who's hot and who's not.

 

[The Showstopper]

I like Lil Wayne's songs because their catchy and they have nice quotes but I dont really think hes the best rapper alive hes really self proclaimed best rapper alive.

 

[exC.On]

i got to agree, im not going to lie, he does spit some good rhymes just not the best

 

[Famou$ 187]

Lil Wayne has the most dickriders & is the most overrated rapper in history. He does have hot songs & he is on every song you can think of. I dont think he is the best rapper alive but I think is one of the top rappers who work the hardest at what he does.

 

[Rell]

Most of the rappers you guys like these days aren't much at all. They say simple punchlines, and you guys love it because its easy to understand ie "I'm flyer than an airplane" "I'm so high, I can see the clouds" etc. I think thats straight garbage, my little sister can come of with half of this shit...

Lyricism is a dying breed. Somewhere along the line, people gave up actually deciphering lyrics, and chose to go with these Souljaboy / Lil Wayne type of nursery ignorant lyrics, and now we have today's hip hop.

 

[Famou$ 187]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePPBxMYwAio <~I feel the same damnnnnnnn way.

 

[Montana]

Apparently the rumors are starting to fly about the label purchasing the carter III after a 69% drop in sales.

http://bgdboom.blogspot.com/2008/06/please-dont-shoot-me-down.html

This is just a blog, but its been on a few others spots too.

 

[Soulpower]

Lil' Wayne is pretty much killing rap single-handedly. The dude is crap, but for some reason he's treated like a GOD. Of course, the label had to buy records. People bought into the hype and bough the album the first week, obivouly, they didn't think much of the album and once word starte spreading that it wasn't that good, the sales started going down.

I don't blame the label for buying up records, but its still corny (And almost sad) as hell.

*Puts on some Eric B and Rakim*

 

[Headfirst For Hardcore]

Lil Wayne is a genius for hyping the shit out of his new CD, but I really don't see what the big deal is about him. His voice is really annoying and difficult to understand, which I'm not too much of a fan of. And if he's that great of a rapper, how come I've only seen one mainstream hit from him? He doesn't have the big "pop" hit that guys like Jay, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Kanye, 50 and even TI have.

 

[Dre]

Lil Wayne should have more than 1 mainstream hit.

 

[Enigma22]

the only song i know by lil wayne is lolipop so obviously im not a big fan... hes not bad but its definitely a strech to say hes the best rapper now... hes currently popular but that will die down soon... personally i like old school rap over this new shit... tupac/biggie/dre/kanye west/jay-z...

 

[Dre]

personally i like old school rap over this new shit... tupac/biggie/dre/kanye west/jay-z...

Nice to see that your a fan of my music :shifty:

 

[Romo Is God]

Lil Wayne is average. Not the best alive or ever. That's just stupid.

Either way though. True rap died years ago.

Pop in some 90's gangsta before listening to this shit.

 

[monkeystyle]

Most of the rappers you guys like these days aren't much at all. They say simple punchlines, and you guys love it because its easy to understand ie "I'm flyer than an airplane" "I'm so high, I can see the clouds" etc. I think thats straight garbage, my little sister can come of with half of this shit...

Lyricism is a dying breed. Somewhere along the line, people gave up actually deciphering lyrics, and chose to go with these Souljaboy / Lil Wayne type of nursery ignorant lyrics, and now we have today's hip hop.

OMG thank you.

And its not just rap that's suffering. Rock music et al. are all suffering from awful lyricism IMO.

Just give me some Public Enemy and some Neil Young.