Jericho already being bashed and dissapointing

[The Rated R CMStar]

At the 11/19 Raw show -- the night in which Chris Jericho returned -- Triple H was joking with a number of the younger wrestlers about how they should be really excited for the next round of house shows. When asked why, he said that there would be nothing but sellouts now that "the savior" has arrived. He also said something similar to Shawn Michaels, telling him that he should work house shows again because Chris Jericho "was back to save wrestling." Michaels didn't really respond to Triple H's comment as he didn't laugh about it nor respond to it negatively. Of course, Triple H was being sarcastic with his comments. He was telling people that Ric Flair's return will mean more money than Jericho's return.

Internally, some people believe Triple H's comparison was counterproductive. It was also noted that he never does this sort of stuff at the arena to co-workers, but Jericho of all people got him to do it. If he does, it's only with the inner circle of WWE. On the other hand, Stephanie McMahon was giving the impression at television that she is very supportive of Chris Jericho





Chris Jericho's feud with Randy Orton looks to be a short one as it should be over soon. He may move on to a "war of words" feud with JBL, cultimating in a match at WrestleMania. Some people within WWE are already disappointed with Jericho's mic work, in-ring work and mild crowd reaction. Jericho was never expected to get a long period of grace, but the tide has turned against him fairly quickly.

Well, nowadays it seems nobody gets a good reaction from the crowd, but yeah, it has been dissapointing to see how he gets a pathetic amount of cheers.
I wasn't expecting a long feud with Orton. and in the upside it would mean we would see JBL back in a wrestling ring.
And lol at WWE, he has only wrestle 2 matches and cut 3 promos in 2 years, what did they expect?

 

[Wordlife]

lol, good thread CMS, poor Y2J. He has done enough to get back in shape, back in the good, and now back in WWE, and what a bad reaction so far. The night he returned though was pretty damn sweet. Can't wait for the JBL feud, if there is one, which if so, would be sweet.

 

[HHHforever]

I have actually been quite impressed with his in-ring work and his mic skills. I mean you might be able to say his in-ring work isn't up to snuff, but his mic skills? I thought they've been great. Yea the crowd reaction has been terrible, with the exception of the night he actually returned, which really is to bad because he deserves better. But I think things will get better for him when people start to realize how great he is. Also a JBL-Jericho feud would kick ass, even if it was just a war of words. Those two would cut some sick promos.

 

[Travis40]

I've read the spoilers for Tribute to the Troops and it looks like it'll be JBL/Jericho at Mania...it only confirms it. But yeah, sucks that Jericho is getting bashed already. They really should turn him heel but meh...

 

[PeepShow]

^O, well thanks for that spoiler. :/

 

[HHHforever]

I don't know about that. Tribute to the troops doesn't always have a lot to do with what's going on. Doesn't DX wrestle on that(sorry if you don't want to be spoiled I won't say anything else about that) and they aren't going to be wrestlling together full time anytime soon. So take that for what its worth. I'm not saying that it won't be JBL-Jericho, but I'm not so sure. I thought JBL couldn't wrestle anymore because of his back. I wouldn't be surprised if they go into a war of words, but as far as an actualy match I'm not so sure. I think it'll be good either way though.

 

[CenaMark54]

They never use the Tribute to the Troops show to further storylines. Its always just a bunch of matches were the face wrestler always wins.

I don't beleive one word of the news report. Where is it from? Its written horribly. Anyway, if it is true, HHH is right. Jericho isn't a draw and isn't going to save anything. Flairs return is also more important than Jericho's.

 

[C4]

Exactly, might look bad on Triple H but the truth is the truth and it's that Chris Jericho is not just the same old Y2J of 2001/2002, he has turned into something else different from himself. And the critics have the right to bash him.

He used to cut marvelous promos in 2003 and just look at the guy right now, when he came back I had a lot of expectations from Chris but his first promo was dull and boring. His hairstyle looked creepy and his costume was like he was teaching bungee jumping.

Admit it people, the whole Save US thing might have made the fans go foolish figuring out who it was but really when he returned what did he save us from? I don't get the Storyline and neither will I understand more of this, his in-ring skills have gone from 100% to 60%, his promo cutting abilities have also gone bad, his new finisher is just a old move which doesn't fit on him and he does some other fresh moves as well, no more 'perfect' lionsaults and Walls of Jericho.

His hairdo is worse than ever before and I don't understand what the attire designers are doing with Chris Jericho making him wear some strange and odd silver color T-shirts which look extremely terrible at him, HHH is right he isn’t' that big of a megastar anymore, the man is past his primetime, not just the previous Chris Jericho. He is a new Chris Jericho and Ric Flair's return is much better than him. If they want Jericho to be a top draw for the company they should have him in a much healthier storyline with some other guy, he can't just come and demand a WWE Championship Match in his first promo, looks bad Storyline wise.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

The report is from PWHeadlines.com

And C4, how can you rate Jericho's match ability with 2 matches only, and with one of them being a squash and the other one being not bad itself?

In my opinion, you can talk about Jericho increasing or decreasing his in ring ability after you see Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho, that will probably go over 15 minutes, then you can talk.

About his promos, to me it seems obvious WWE forces him to say a lot of things. How many times in his promos does he mention "Second Coming". To me that is all about creative saying him to say it.

About HHH, he may be right, but he sounds sort of jealous and biased

 

[the last gunslinger]

One thing that people have to remember is that it takes a long time to get into great in ring shape after two years....he's been under contract for maybe 3 to 4 months....and with a busy schedule promoting his book he wasn't working out everyday....give him at least a month before he can really get into in ring shape.....now as far as his mic skills....they're still great but you gotta remember that he doesn't write everything he says

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

Triple H wants to be in the main event picture until he drops dead right there in the ring, at which point Michaels comes out to drag his corpse over the opponent for the win, and then he's buried with the championship.

Anyway, how can anyone complain about Jericho's mic skills? He has more charisma out there than anyone. As for his wrestling ability, I fail to see what there is to complain about, especially since it's been over two years for him.

 

[C4]

The report is from PWHeadlines.com

And C4, how can you rate Jericho's match ability with 2 matches only, and with one of them being a squash and the other one being not bad itself?

In my opinion, you can talk about Jericho increasing or decreasing his in ring ability after you see Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho, that will probably go over 15 minutes, then you can talk.

About his promos, to me it seems obvious WWE forces him to say a lot of things. How many times in his promos does he mention "Second Coming". To me that is all about creative saying him to say it.

About HHH, he may be right, but he sounds sort of jealous and biased

Santino Marella vs. Chris Jericho was his return Match, he came back to pro-wrestling after two years and he should have atleast made something out of that match for us to remember other than that "Codebreaker"

Come on, accept the fact that Chris Jericho had a dumb Match with Santino Marella, there was no Crowd Reaction at all from the heartless fans and the setting was just terrible [The Jerry Lawler thing] Chris Jericho's Match with Umaga was a bit better because he used some old moves of his; but then again, not just the same old Y2J. And I think a Return Match and another Match is just enough to judge someone's in-ring skills but then again, you said it 'Wait till Armagedon to watch Jericho vs. Orton' so let's just wait and watch what Jericho does at Armagedon and if he can really get us going.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

The thing is, in his match against Santino Marella, it the whole point was two introduce the Codebreaker, so to expect a little more is stupid.
And let me tell you, you can say that two matches are enough to see the wrestling ability of someone....who has been a regular, Jericho has only had two matches in 2 years. You can't judge him with so little time of wrestling-minutes.

As for the promos, he still delivers, but to me it is clear the influence of the writters on what he say, and he makes the most of his dialogues.

Just tossing this around, Jericho will never be the same, he went on from 99 to 2005 without stopping, he knew the damn WWE ring with his eyes closed. Jericho himself said he would not been able to top himself.


And Roxxy, why don't you just understand it? HHH can still go, he can still put good matches and can still draw as a main eventer. So why should he leave the main event picture? Specially since he is the ultimate Grand Daddy of them all jobber.

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

Yes, Triple H is a good performer, but so are several other superstars. No amount of talent justifies the CONSTANT pushing and multi-title ownerships that he has enjoyed.

As an example, Lashley did beat Umaga in the first match, but then had months of constant defeat. But here comes the mighty Triple H, who manages to destroy Umaga AND Snitsky AT THE SAME TIME. Say what you want about Batista and his demanding rematch after rematch, at least the key point is that he has enough respect for his fellow wrestlers to lose matches and get smacked the hell down in the little tiffs between matches. You can be a heavily pushed main-eventer without demanding wins in every match you've been in since coming back from injury - something Triple H doesn't understand.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Yes, Triple H is a good performer, but so are several other superstars. No amount of talent justifies the CONSTANT pushing and multi-title ownerships that he has enjoyed.

As an example, Lashley did beat Umaga in the first match, but then had months of constant defeat. But here comes the mighty Triple H, who manages to destroy Umaga AND Snitsky AT THE SAME TIME. Say what you want about Batista and his demanding rematch after rematch, at least the key point is that he has enough respect for his fellow wrestlers to lose matches and get smacked the hell down in the little tiffs between matches. You can be a heavily pushed main-eventer without demanding wins in every match you've been in since coming back from injury - something Triple H doesn't understand.

And you still wonder why people neg rep you about your "opinions"