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I'm a known h8ter of ryback. I do see some improvement however and am aware that he could drastically improve. I figured it would be easier to show you guys why than type it out because visual proof never lies. I took this footage from "Botchamania" IMO things like this is why he should not be main inventing raw or ppvs. I know Cena was out. Other guys botch but don't look this bad in the process.

Do you guys see improvement? Do you guys think he will last long in the "e" i'm interested to hear respectful debates :)
 

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All three of those aren't his fault though IMO. Yes that sounds markish but Tensai and Swagger obviously sandbagged (or grossly mistimed their "jumps") and Heyman probably doesn't even know what to do when someone goes to lift you above their head, and the fact he's overweight.

However, there's areas he definitely needs to improve on. Larger move set, and working longer matches are some of those things.
 

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Crayo said:
All three of those aren't his fault though IMO. Yes that sounds markish but Tensai and Swagger obviously sandbagged (or grossly mistimed their "jumps") and Heyman probably doesn't even know what to do when someone goes to lift you above their head, and the fact he's overweight.

However, there's areas he definitely needs to improve on. Larger move set, and working longer matches are some of those things.

I can buy the two about Tensai and Heyman but i'm not sold on Swagger. That looked pretty bad overall
 

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Crayo said:
Just watched it again, you may have a point tbh. I was thinking of another incident not involving Ryback, lol.

I did think that him and Punk worked better at HIAC though to be honest. I think the more practice he has the better he will get. Still IMO could use some time and if he improves you can all say " I told ya so, Danny"
 

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Nah I actually agree with you. He was unfairly rushed into the ME but they had no choice really, and he was never going to be perfect. I do think his aura, charisma, look and intensity shows he is a future main eventer though.
 

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If he can put it all together he will be a force to be reckoned with. Obviously he won't have as big of a role in the upcoming months with the rock/brock/undertaker returning. A nice mid card match at mania might suit him better for the time being.
 

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Used to be a fan of Ryback, but he's waayy to far ahead that he should be. Loved his finisher when he first debuted, his other moves were.. alright. Other than that, he's a bit boring imo.
 
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Ryback bores me still it all seems to predictable and the matches don't always seem to flow right as sometimes I think his timing is off.
 
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How high are you supposed to jump on one leg when the man is pretty much holding the rest of your body?


Seems like he can only pull off the move on smaller guys.
 

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I agree. It's not like fat guys are capable of jumping off one foot. Also i've seen smaller superstars pick up the big show. It's all in his technique. Hopefully he squares it away.
 

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dethfvk said:
How high are you supposed to jump on one leg when the man is pretty much holding the rest of your body?


Seems like he can only pull off the move on smaller guys.

He hit it on Tensai on SmackDown, then the week after he couldn't, a lot of it is dependant on the receiver, not just the guy lifting.
 

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Crayo said:
He hit it on Tensai on SmackDown, then the week after he couldn't, a lot of it is dependant on the receiver, not just the guy lifting.

Smackdown is also a taped show and botches are cut out, so we never really know if he botched or not. He actually should be on smackdown at this point in time. It's the truth :smug:
 

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DannyWoods said:
Smackdown is also a taped show and botches are cut out, so we never really know if he botched or not. He actually should be on smackdown at this point in time. It's the truth :smug:

Urm, if he botched it on SmackDown and it needed to be re-taped then the whole IWC would know about it. He hit it perfectly on Tensai, then the week after he didn't, that's pretty much all the proof you need. Also, look at the video, Tensai sandbagged him horribly.