Is It All Jinder's Fault?

[Grievous 3D]

So while I no longer watch WhatCulture (or Cultaholic for that matter)
I couldn't help but watch this video when I saw the title & thumbnail.




Its pretty interesting...and I have to ask you all here...do you think he
makes a valid point? or is he talking complete bollocks?

What do you think?

 

[Solid Snake]

They were tanking before this. I would say the product had been going downhill since the end of 2013. I think Jinder's case may have made it more apparent to hardcore fans but for people like me who only got back into WWE as of 2009, it was not hard to spot a decline.

 

[Mr. Roman Empire]

Whatculture causes cancer

 

[Grievous 3D]

Whatculture causes cancer

That's actually a responsible opinion...although
I still found the video an interesting watch.

I would say the product had been going downhill since the end of 2013.

So...in your opinion...what started the decline?

 

[Solid Snake]

So...in your opinion...what started the decline?

I don't think it was just one thing. It was a bunch of poor decisions mixed with talent leaving, a side dish of horrible creative writers, rolled into a giant ball of Vince does what Vince wants.

 

[Grievous 3D]

I don't think it was just one thing. It was a bunch of poor decisions mixed with talent leaving, a side dish of horrible creative writers, rolled into a giant ball of Vince does what Vince wants.

Wow...

Its mid 2019 & that still seems to be going on.

 

[edge4ever]

Jinder was pushed very bad but I also think he isn’t top dog material either. For me it’s 50/50. I respect him in certain ways, but also think he sucks.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Jinder was pushed very bad but I also think he isn’t top dog material either. For me it’s 50/50. I respect him in certain ways, but also think he sucks.

I think I like the idea of an "Out of Nowhere" top card push...and while I like Jinder himself & I think he did his best with
the time, matches & material given to him...I'd actually like to see it done with a performer who can actually carry top
card level matches.

So like someone like Sami Zayn, Cesaro, Andrade or Rusev...

Hell...Neville would have been perfect for this idea back when he was still with the company.

A performer who may look "out of place" with a top title on them...but then can turn that around by putting on fantastic
matches & "earning" the right & respect to be a "top card" guy.

Plus Jinder's push was done for a highly cynical & money grubbing reason...which is never a good look for any company.

 

[Mr. Roman Empire]

I think I like the idea of an "Out of Nowhere" top card push...and while I like Jinder himself & I think he did his best with
the time, matches & material given to him...I'd actually like to see it done with a performer who can actually carry top
card level matches.

So like someone like Sami Zayn, Cesaro, Andrade or Rusev...

Hell...Neville would have been perfect for this idea back when he was still with the company.

A performer who may look "out of place" with a top title on them...but then can turn that around by putting on fantastic
matches & "earning" the right & respect to be a "top card" guy.

Plus Jinder's push was done for a highly cynical & money grubbing reason...which is never a good look for any company.

I thought Jinder could of been a strong main eventer because he knows how to get heat. He has a great look and performs in the ring decent. But he also knows how to cut a promo. Jinder dropped the championship to Styles tho, who lets face it, deserved that championship run for a year. It legitimized him in WWE.

 

[Grievous 3D]

I thought Jinder could of been a strong main eventer because he knows how to get heat. He has a great look and performs in the ring decent. But he also knows how to cut a promo. Jinder dropped the championship to Styles tho, who lets face it, deserved that championship run for a year. It legitimized him in WWE.

I think Jinder COULD have worked if he was built up over a 6 month period of
time & actually won more matches & the ATGMBR at Wrestlemania 33...maybe
had a run with the U.S/I.C title?

Plus I doubt Broke Le$nar wanted to face/work with Jinder at Survivor Series.

I've noticed that the entire brand vs. brand concept at Survivor Series seems to
trigger "Out of Nowhere" title changes because they want better matches at that
pay per view.

Ziggler dropped the I.C title back to the Miz...(even though Ziggler vs. Zayn could have been incredible)
Natalya dropped the SDL Women's title to Charlotte...(because no one wanted Alexa vs. Natalya)
Jinder dropped the World title to Styles...(because Le$nar didn't want to work with Jinder)
& then
Styles dropped the WWE title to Bryan...(because they wanted Le$nar vs. Bryan)

I actually expect a couple of (Out of Nowhere) title changes in early November now.

 

[Redboy123@]

Utter bollocks I say.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Utter bollocks I say.

Fair call...

 

[Grievous 3D]

Hey...

I found the one true highlight of Jinder's World title run...

Randy Orton showing an actual emotion.