I love my HHH and HBK as much as the next guy but...

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And that was not sarcasm. Unlike some, I don't have that big of a deal with WWE using the same main eventers over and over because somehow theu manage to get them fresh. Cena vs Orton, even if you think sucked, was different that Cena vs Orton from 2 years back, and so on and on.

Now, they give us HHH vs HBK vs Cena, my dream match...for WM24. This match could be good, but the build up to it will be so predictable, and it seems that WWE has just said "fuck it, they'll never fully cheer for Cena" and now they will throw him as the babyface champion against the pop machine that is DX.

But now, where there any other choices...

Don't give me the Miz, Swagger, MVP crap because not counting Miz in some places they get no damn reaction, and it isn't because of booking, that didn't stop guys like CM Punk or Jeff Hardy when being in midcard to get main event reactions.

But there was a choice, a much more appealing one imo, fresher and that made more sense storyline wise...

Cody Rhodes vs Ted DiBiase vs John Cena.

The argument they made that Orton couldnt get a rematch but they could get a match and bring the title back to Legacy is fucking awesome and actually smart. Besides, we know Cena is walking out champion, so why not let these two get their first title shots at a PPV?


By booking what will be the beginning of the end of DX, WWE let a big ship sail with Legacy.
 

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Don't give me the Miz, Swagger, MVP crap because not counting Miz in some places they get no damn reaction, and it isn't because of booking, that didn't stop guys like CM Punk or Jeff Hardy when being in midcard to get main event reactions.

Well, that's because they (WWE) gave the people reasons to care about Punk and Hardy when they were mid carders. They're not giving us a reason to care about these guys coming to RAW now. A quick pointless match here, random contender for mid card there, blowoff match of a feud that just started the previous week. There's a difference.

Cody Rhodes vs Ted DiBiase vs John Cena.

The argument they made that Orton couldnt get a rematch but they could get a match and bring the title back to Legacy is fucking awesome and actually smart. Besides, we know Cena is walking out champion, so why not let these two get their first title shots at a PPV?

I actually thought that's the route they were going when Legacy said that by Orton's car. Especially when Cena came out after their promo. Sucks they didn't go that route. I guess it's taking the safer route going with the vets for the title (one's they know will draw) rather than new blood (which they don't know if they will or not). That's how I see it.
 

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I still stand by the fact that MVP should be in the main event. I don't care what anyones argument is.
 
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This could just be to kick off a possible HHH/HBK fued for Mania. It's gotta be HBK's last/second last Mania, and I'm sure he'd love to face off against Trips again. Starting at Survivor Series, gives them some time to break up DX and build a decent, and hopefully fresh, fued between the two.

I think Cody V Ted V John will happen another time. Be a great match to see, too. Cody and Ted though are so young. They've got what? 10 years ahead of them - more.
 

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^^^^If done, I don't see how HBK v HHH can be fresh.... There's been virtually no character development for either of them since they last fueded and back then it was also using the DX-relationship as the catalyst.

Don't give me the Miz, Swagger, MVP crap because not counting Miz in some places they get no damn reaction, and it isn't because of booking, that didn't stop guys like CM Punk or Jeff Hardy when being in midcard to get main event reactions.

That's not a fair synopsis at all.... Punk & Jeff were still getting good match time and winning titles long the way. MVP (e.g.) has been booked to do what since moving to Raw...?

*Manned up to Orton without pay-off.
*Drop the US title without build-up nor heat.
*Racked up one win each vs Swagger in the most tepid fued (if you can even call it that!?!) in recent memory.
*The occoasional tag appearance w/ Henry.

When you consider how good he was prior to the losing streak storyline on SD and the subsequent phantom face-turn, how you can NOT blame it on booking (or lack there of) is entirely beyond me.

But there was a choice, a much more appealing one imo, fresher and that made more sense storyline wise...

Cody Rhodes vs Ted DiBiase vs John Cena.


Furthermore, in addition to my comments above) it's only thanks to the booking of the fued with DX that you'd even be citing them as a good idea for a title-shot...


The argument they made that Orton couldnt get a rematch but they could get a match and bring the title back to Legacy is fucking awesome and actually smart. Besides, we know Cena is walking out champion, so why not let these two get their first title shots at a PPV?

Ultimately though, yes, this would have been far more preferable to Cena/HBK/HHH for no apparanet reason....

Yes, it's just fucking lazy.... Cena & Orton spend the last 3 months trying to kill each other purely due, apparently, to title aspirations, the next DX wise-crack their way into a title shot on the back of a big PPV loss. Fuck you WWE - We deserve better than that!

...At the very least, make them win some kind of contenders match, for fucks sake.


By booking what will be the beginning of the end of DX, WWE let a big ship sail with Legacy.

What with the above and Big Dayyyves big heel turn, It's terrible timing for the start of the DX split...

Can't they just agree that tey acheived their aim of fighting off the threat ( :cough: ) of Legacy and revert to their solo concerns?


HBK v HHH at WM holds no appeal to me at this juncture.
 

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I think we will get Legacy/Orton vs DX/Cena in a 3 on 3 match soon.

Legacy will win the match to increase their credability and start bragging about that they are ready to face Cena.

Legacy will then fight among themselves that who should be the selected person to face Cena. Legacy's first gradual breakdown.
 

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I think we will get Legacy/Orton vs DX/Cena in a 3 on 3 match soon.

Legacy will win the match to increase their credability and start bragging about that they are ready to face Cena.

Legacy will then fight among themselves that who should be the selected person to face Cena. Legacy's first gradual breakdown.

I'm sure we have already saw that match on RAW and it wasn't all too great.

I think the worst thing is that DX lost in the last PPV, and they lost to Legacy recently, so what makes them better than Legacy or the Miz, who won at Bragging Rights.
 

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Fresh? How can you say any of this crap is fresh?
Why because Orton now slithers around like a snake and makes Blue faces? Because Cena is more kid friendly than ever and has new baby oil jokes for Orton? It still comes down to the fact that we've seen these same damn people wrestling each other over and over again for years now.
And it's not even as if they have good chemistry in the ring, in fact... most of their matches are pretty fucking bad.
WWE constantly tests the waters on young stars and they pulls them out right away. I think we can all agree that Swagger/Cena was a pretty awesome match. Yet right now at the perfect time when Orton can no longer get another title shot and we can have a fresh face going into the main event what do we do? PUT FUCKING TRIPLE H AND HBK BACK IN THERE? Give me a fucking break. There is no way you can defend this bullshit. It's lazy booking plain and simple. WWE is too scared to pull the trigger on any of these young guys so we're forced to suffer through the same main event time and time again.
GOOD booking led to you finding Legacy credible for possibly being in a title match against Cena by beating DX twice. But what happened? They once again fell back at Orton's side after BEATING HIM and the team they defeated (DX) are now receiving the title shots...WHAT!?
I don't see how any of this is 'different' than anything we've seen 10 times before. Cena got it right, RAW is like watching re-runs week in and week out. It's the same feuds, same reasonings for the feuds and same shitty in ring chemistry every week.
 

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How doess Miz not get a reaction..? He's probably the most over heel on Raw..
 

Airfixx

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You wanna see NO reaction. Check Seamus AFTER his victory on Raw this week...

You could almost hear the crowd's internal dialogue... "We're meant to be in awe of a guy that can squash Jamie Noble?????"




Imagine the impact he'd have made, if when Brock Lesnar had debuted, rather than singlehandledly destroying the Hardy's and then Hogan, they had him 'run through' Funaki and a few other washed up cruiserweights? :roll:
 

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I think it was more people's confusion of Jamie Noble still being employed.
 

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I see where the people wanting Legacy/Cena are coming from but this match did just happen what two weeks ago? I do think that it would have been a great step in having them main event with Cena but it wasn't to be. The DX/Cena Triple Threat was predictable, seen it coming a mile away but it will draw. The three most over faces on the Raw roster main eventing sounds right, doesn't it?

I'm on the Swagger bandwagon, I don't see why they are pushing this Miz/Swagger feud neither could or should turn face and putting them in a mini feud, what it seems to be happening, is even worse for them trying to become main eventers. Letting Swagger win a battle royal could have sufficed this past Monday and he could go on to have a competitive match with Cena for the title. A great way to get your young talent experience on a huge PPV.

They could have even let Swagger and Miz switch places from when Miz won the US title. Miz is going to be the most booed man in the arena night in and night out, with or without a title. I wouldn't really want to see Miz/Cena co-main event a PPV especially when it has just happened but I think it's better to get your young stars more experience as fast as possible especially when they are deemed the chosen ones to lead the company in a short amount of time.

And I actually like the idea of HBK/HHH at Wrestlemania, I'm not a huge DX hater but I'd like to see these two future Hall of Famers doing something useful instead of plugging T-Shirts. Heel HHH is one of the best character/gimmicks of our time, he revolutionized the character Orton is using right now. He needs to be heel asap and what better way then against Michaels. I do want Michaels to beat HHH just once in a big match.
 

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I don't think we'll see a Swagger face turn. More like a short battle of the egos between he and Miz.
 

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Id av loved Legacy(Cody/Ted) in the mix against Cena. TBH Cena is right. Apart from there Big rub from DX who have they faced to be come real ME WWE Contenders. They haven't paid there dues. So i see were Cena is coming from. Even though Trips And HBK have been shot in this title crap. I some how see HHH turning Heel which could only mean good things :). And a DX/CENA vs Orton/Legacy match, Before the inevitable DX split. ALL i ask for is a HEEL HHH. It's not much.