Nathan Wilkins says
what? when did i say this?
Mike Chaos says
1-27-11
Nathan Wilkins says
i have no idea it was probably when monk was being a bitch about him getting owned in an argument we had, as well as airfixx
Mike Chaos says
ic
Nathan Wilkins says
so naturally sex power and axis rushed to their defense
thats the "clique"
Mike Chaos says
theyve always been the clique
Nathan Wilkins says
it wasnt until i argued with monk and airfixx, that i suddently became "such a terrible poster" lol
Mike Chaos says
yeah. that should be expected
mess with one or upset one then they all turn
Nathan Wilkins says
well u should do whtever u can to prevent this in the future or else it will hurt the forum
Mike Chaos says
and what exactly would you want me to do?
tell them to be nice?
Nathan Wilkins says
well monk is an admin on ur forum
so he should be expected to act like one
Mike Chaos says
but exactly what did he do wrong
Nathan Wilkins says
well telling me to leave the forum after we had an argument and getting all pissy and throwing out stupid insults isnt exactly how an admin should act
Mike Chaos says
where did it take place?
Nathan Wilkins says
it doesnt personally offend me its just ridiculous
he repped me and told me i should leave
we argued in one of the threads i made in the games section
cant quite remember wht it was
maybe it was the resistance thread i made about it having better graphics then halo 3
*halo reach
Mike Chaos says
these things happen
Nathan Wilkins says
i know
Mike Chaos says
you know monk
Nathan Wilkins says
but it shouldnt happen coming from an admin
Mike Chaos says
its best to avoid any sort of argument with him.
Nathan Wilkins says
if he cant act like an admin he shouldnt be one.........
Mike Chaos says
because he will find a way to try and win
Nathan Wilkins says
not saying u should de admin him
but for the benefit of the forum dont let him push members away
and when people start coming to his defense try not to let it get out of hand
i think carlos can be of great benefit here
Mike Chaos says
i didnt make him admin. but i think he deserves it. even though he tried to destroy the whole forum
Nathan Wilkins says
he does what he can
Mike Chaos says
considering all the work he put into the site
Nathan Wilkins says
well when he takes thing so personal out of member of the forum that he admins, this is when the question of should he be an admin comes
so
idk
dont let him take things personally
if he does
punish him
perhaps a warning
a suspension
Mike Chaos says
that is how he is. he isnt going to change
Nathan Wilkins says
let him know he cant act like that as an admin
Mike Chaos says
he is like 28 or something he isnt going to change
Nathan Wilkins says
then he shouldnt be an admin.........
if he takes thing personally and continues to fuck with members
Mike Chaos says
well he is a very active contributing member of the community
look im not here to defend him i dont want to
Nathan Wilkins says
but it only hurts the forum when he takes things so personally
simply
Mike Chaos says
i cant speak for other people
Nathan Wilkins says
if u want the forum to grow
u cant let this happen in the future
and
like i said carlos can be of great benefit
Mike Chaos says
i havent seen monk push away new members at all
i think this incident wont push away new members
Nathan Wilkins says
in the future it can
when he argues with a new member
hopefully it doesnt
but if it does he needs to know and learn he cant do that
Mike Chaos says
he has a very good reputation when dealing with new members
if someone engages in an argument with him then it is what it is
it takes two
Nathan Wilkins says
yes but u cant let an admin of ur forum take things personally
thats not the quality of an administrator
it just needs to be prevented in the future
and not just new members
active members
whtever it may be
Mike Chaos says
im not going tell staff members not to get into arguments or debates
Nathan Wilkins says
u can tell staff members not to take things personally on the internet........
which hurts ur forum
makes it look less appealing
Mike Chaos says
they can do as they please. as long as they arent abusing their power. im not going to restrict their free speech
Nathan Wilkins says
when one of ur admins is throwing a fit
so when it drives members away which it could potentially do u wont care?
Mike Chaos says
there is no evidence that this incident has drove away any members
Nathan Wilkins says
it can
Mike Chaos says
produce evidence that monk is mistreating new members
Nathan Wilkins says
its just not how an admin it acts
it hurts ur forum when an admin is throwing a fit and taking things personally.....
even
if it doesnt drive them away
Mike Chaos says
link me to him throwing a fit
Nathan Wilkins says
perhaps they stop being as active
http://forum.impactwrestling.com/sho...sive-from-2008
if u care about the forum u wont let him pull this stupid shit in the future
u cant let an admin on ur forum act like this
if he cant not take things personally he shouldnt be admin
its the most common sense thing for an admin to have
respect for the members
not to throw a pissy personal fit like he has at times
im not saying de admin him
i dont even care
for the benefit of your forum dont let this shit happen
or it wont grow
Mike Chaos says
where in this thread
Nathan Wilkins says
starts at the bottom of the first page......
Mike Chaos says
link me to the exact posts where he was mistreating you or someone
Nathan Wilkins says
ill provide posts of his that arent exactly "admin" type
Mike Chaos says
it appears to me that you both were in an argument that involved name calling
Nathan Wilkins says
"Also, you might be a homosexual."
So you can take your knowledge and shove it because it's not worth a goddamned thing.
now this is noteworthy
because i never even said what he claimed to think
he interrupted it the wrong way
and he knew that
Mike Chaos says
yes and you said "You're a massive fucking blueberry rofl" point of the matter is you both engaged in this sort of behavior
Nathan Wilkins says
yes after he started taking things personally........
Mike Chaos says
so that means you can just go ahead and do the same?
Nathan Wilkins says
i did not start nor did i take it as personally as he did
no
and that was after he started it
Mike Chaos says
so what you are saying is you are right and he is wrong.
Nathan Wilkins says
no
i shouldnt have done that
Mike Chaos says
then i dont see what you are trying to accomplish
Nathan Wilkins says
but he started it
and he is an admin
im not
notice that
thats important
Mike Chaos says
if you didnt engage in this sort of behavior and only he did, then i would say you had a point
but
you were involved just as much as he was. if not more
Nathan Wilkins says
notice how i stopped and this was the only insult i threw at him?
Mike Chaos says
it appears to me that you took this way too personally than he did
Nathan Wilkins says
i later on told him he shouldnt take things so personally
lol
Mike Chaos says
considering there are so many paragraphs coming from your posts
Nathan Wilkins says
i hardly threw at any insults
i was defending myself from his ridiculous claims
how is that taking things personally?
its not
Mike Chaos says
it is
considering you took a lot of time to type out all of those paragraphs to make yourself look right. i would say you took it real personal
like super cereal
Nathan Wilkins says
so defending yourself from a clearly stupid claim is taking things personally?
u dont even care
is this a joke?
Mike Chaos says
im looking at this whole thread
Nathan Wilkins says
he made some stupid thing up
and i defending myself
Mike Chaos says
and it looks like monk didnt really take much personal at all
Nathan Wilkins says
he clearly tried to make himself look superior
Mike Chaos says
you were the one acting serious and taking everything he said to heart
Nathan Wilkins says
when he misinterruped what i said
so i defended myself
Mike Chaos says
who doesnt try to make their self look superior and correct
Nathan Wilkins says
if i hadnt it would have made his ridiculous claims look true.......
Mike Chaos says
all i see from your posts is "fuck" "fucking" "fuck"
Nathan Wilkins says
i admit
yes
Mike Chaos says
usually when people make use of those terms a lot they are taking something personal
Nathan Wilkins says
i got frustrated with his bullshit claims and taking things personally
Mike Chaos says
or trying to prove a point. why would someone want to prove a point? because it is important to them. because it is personal
Nathan Wilkins says
ur forum is never going to grow mike......
when u dont fix the problems it had
this was a month ago
i came to u
for the benefit of ur forum
Mike Chaos says
ok so now instead of staying on topic you try to turn it on me
this is a personal matter between you and monk
Nathan Wilkins says
i dont care about it
im hardly on ur forum
Mike Chaos says
i think you cared a lot
Nathan Wilkins says
these are the clear points
he started taking things personally
he is an admin of ur forum
Mike Chaos says
why else would you post numerous amounts of posts in this thread writing long paragraphs
Nathan Wilkins says
he kept with his bullshit claim to attempt to make me look like an idiot when it was him who misunderstood the whole thing
Mike Chaos says
your argument with me at this point has no substance. you engaged in this activity
you were both in this argument
Nathan Wilkins says
im not an admin of ur forum.......
i didnt start it
Mike Chaos says
so that means you can just act however you want?
if you were to of not engaged in this type of activity then i would say you have a point
Nathan Wilkins says
i didnt attempt to make him look like an idiot through something that was clearly bullshit
Mike Chaos says
but you were involved willfully
Nathan Wilkins says
it doesnt matter
Mike Chaos says
you werent forced to post
Nathan Wilkins says
do u not listen?
sigh
he started it
Mike Chaos says
no i listen and i see what happened
Nathan Wilkins says
attempted to make me look like an idiot
like
i didnt know what a mental addiction is
thats taking things personally
when he knows he misunderstood me
he just
wont admit it
Mike Chaos says
i dont see what the big deal is.
you BOTH were in an argument
and both did the name calling.
Nathan Wilkins says
i never attempted to make him look like an idiot who didnt know what something that is common sense is
Mike Chaos says
it isnt illegal to "attempt to make someone look like an idiot"
that is what people do
in arguments
Nathan Wilkins says
yes
Mike Chaos says
make the other look like they dont know what they are talking about
Nathan Wilkins says
but when an admin holds on to something that is clearly bullshit and takes things personally too, its ridiculous
Mike Chaos says
treat others like you want to be treated. if you didnt like what he had to say you were not forced to respond.
Nathan Wilkins says
so i should have just let him make me look like an idiot?
this is NOT how an admin of ur member should be acting
Mike Chaos says
there was a better way you could of went about this
Nathan Wilkins says
it will bring people to other forums
Mike Chaos says
you could of took the high road
BUT you didnt
Nathan Wilkins says
where they dont take things so personally
Mike Chaos says
you could of posted your responses in a civil manner to get your point accross
Nathan Wilkins says
so i should have just let him make me look like he was right and i was idiot?
Mike Chaos says
so you think you didnt do anything wrong?
that you are an angel
and he was wrong
Nathan Wilkins says
i attempted to do so later on and he wouldnt have anything of it
Mike Chaos says
100%
Nathan Wilkins says
mike
Mike Chaos says
look im trying to be fair and impartial.
but you were involved just as much if not more than he was
like i said already
Nathan Wilkins says
if i took things personally i would be telling u do de admin him.....
sigh
i am well aware he is one of the best members on the forum
just dont let him drive people away and take things personally as an admin
Mike Chaos says
no you do want me to de admin him. you just wont say it. you keep saying stuff like, people who do stuff like monk did shouldnt be an admin
Nathan Wilkins says
no
now this this is where its getting ridiculous on ur part
stop hiding
from the fact that ur forum has problems!
i try to help u
im hardly on ur forum
its a joke now
and yes this is one reason why it is
Mike Chaos says
"if he cant not take things personally he shouldnt be admin"
im not hiding from anything
Nathan Wilkins says
and certainly the top admin not doing shit about one of admins having a pissy fit is a joke
u wonder why 90% of people view the forum as a joke now
Mike Chaos says
point of the matter is: you were involved just as much as he was
Nathan Wilkins says
u have to do something about this shit
Mike Chaos says
and now you arent getting your way so you want to try and attack me personally
or try to get me mad
but it isnt going to work
Nathan Wilkins says
yes after u make false claims
i know how monk is too
Mike Chaos says
I made false claims
how
Nathan Wilkins says
he should be admin
telling me i want him de admined
when i dont
Mike Chaos says
then why would you say what you have said
if he cant not take things personally he shouldnt be admin
if he cant not take things personally he shouldnt be admin
if he cant not take things personally he shouldnt be admin
if he cant not take things personally he shouldnt be admin
i dont have time to look through this whole convo
Nathan Wilkins says
i just think u should stop him from let things get personal in the future
again
u dont listen
Mike Chaos says
for you hinting that he shouldnt be an admin
Nathan Wilkins says
i said if it continues to happen
Mike Chaos says
yes boss
thanks for bringing this to my attention
good day to you.
that is what i could of said
and not do anything about this
but i figured i would listen to your side of the story
Nathan Wilkins says
all i said was do something about this........
in the future
Mike Chaos says
but I should of just said ok thanks for letting me know and then just not do anything
because obviously you are very stubborn
Nathan Wilkins says
and i said perhaps issue a warning
Mike Chaos says
when i have already told you that you were as guilty as he was
Nathan Wilkins says
gave u suggestions
im not......
i didnt start it
i didnt attempt to make him look like an idiot
i didnt take things as personally
Mike Chaos says
you have no case
Nathan Wilkins says
i tried to get him to stop later
he didnt
mike, this is pointless
Mike Chaos says
i agree
Nathan Wilkins says
im just trying to help ur forum.......
Mike Chaos says
no you are trying to get what you want, to satisfy yourself
Nathan Wilkins says
no
if i was
Mike Chaos says
obviously
this is such a serious and personal thing to you
Nathan Wilkins says
i would be telling u to de admin him right now
no
Mike Chaos says
otherwise you wouldnt of argued with me for the last half hour
Nathan Wilkins says
and now ur making more ridiculous claims
go ahead
Mike Chaos says
and argued with him with paragraphs
Nathan Wilkins says
let ur forum continue to go to the shitter
Mike Chaos says
you have some issues man
Nathan Wilkins says
dont do shit about its problems
let ur staff throw hissy fits
and say its justified
funny
carlos never said shit to me
he knows
Mike Chaos says
look, i tried to be fair and civil with you. if you dont like the forum you are NOT forced to post
Nathan Wilkins says
monk takes things personally
and that he shouldnt have started it
Mike Chaos says
beating a dead horse here
Nathan Wilkins says
and u wonder why hardly anyone posts anymore......
Mike Chaos says
i gave you over 30minutes of my time
Nathan Wilkins says
if the top admin of the forum doesnt give a shit about it, its fucked
Mike Chaos says
see now since you arent getting your way you turn to change the subject and try to make this about me
Nathan Wilkins says
just like u did
when "i was taking it personal"
Mike Chaos says
you did
the whole time
you always do
Nathan Wilkins says
when i clearly told u to do wht u can u to prevent it
for the benefit of ur forum........
Mike Chaos says
otherwise you wouldnt of engaged in this conversation
Nathan Wilkins says
look
sigh
just try to do whtever u can
or dont
let him push members away
let ur forum look like crap
Mike Chaos says
do me a favor. read this whole conversation again
and there is your answer
Nathan Wilkins says
when a staff member acts this way
Mike Chaos says
and stop being so stubborn. you act like you didnt do anything wrong
you both are at fault.
so it is even
Nathan Wilkins says
i never said i didnt
Mike Chaos says
no winner or loser.
Nathan Wilkins says
but im not a member of ur staff, mike
i didnt stsrt it
*start
Mike Chaos says
get over it or dont get over it. do what you want
Nathan Wilkins says
and i didnt make ridiculous claims like he did
Mike Chaos says
do you have anything else besides this to discuss
Nathan Wilkins says
help ur forum or let it rot.......
do what you want
Mike Chaos says
because i am done talking about it. i have already repeated myself too many times
Nathan Wilkins says
nope
Mike Chaos says
ok then good night
Nathan Wilkins says
just do what you can to help ur forum or dont
goodnight
