Can This Be Justified?

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It's been a long time I've been really ticked off with wrestling. I am very happy with the storylines lately despite the collapse of last Monday night. But it takes a lot for me to get really annoyed with something or disappointed. Last May was the last time I was really mad when the rumors of Punk leaving was true and how they weren't using him to his perfection. Eventually WWE got the message and now he's the man. But now it's something else that bugs me and it's not the things most fans get annoyed with. Orton being booked like he's Kane or Undertaker is a common one it's annoying but I can tolerate it. Cena is in the title picture again way too much, but I can tolerate it. The thing that ticks me off is great talent not being used. We have seen plenty but I hate for the wrong reasons because of a woman. Especially a woman that isn't even employed with the company no more. It's not just one man, it's two men that are very talented. Drew McIntyre and John Morrison have been de pushed for problems that aren't caused by them.

We can start with John Morrison who not too long ago was one of the hottest things on Raw. He was on a tear and finally got the push he deserved. Now he finds himself lost again and possibly leaving the company. I find it really hard to believe that WWE doesn't want to sign him because of Melina. It makes me really sick how they use a woman to push him or not. Melina is gone, yes she caused havoc and John made some bad decisions but give me a break. John can wrestle and put on great matches, if you see him as a spot monkey get a clue. I'm judging this guy as a wrestler, not a man. We all know his personal issues and how he doesn't really stand up to people (Batista and Mike Knox how ya doing). He may not be in championship material, but this guy deserves so much better. He shouldn't be used as a guy to take a beating. I was absolutely disgusted how he was booked Monday. I thought his little segment with Johnny Ace was start of something slow for John, maybe a heel turn. Instead absolute garbage, now he's likely gone. I am a huge Morrison fan, but even I question some of his actions. The incident with Trish was a huge blow, as she is a huge influence in the company. He could have made his name even better instead just made it more dirty. Then he got hurt which doesn't really help and his new shirt is pretty awful (don't eat my lunch please John). That being said, to not give this guy more of a push because of Melina (who is rumored to not be even going out with John) is absolutely pathetic. Maria agrees with me and Melina would too considering she said the WWE has killed Morrison. I'll be sad to see him leave if he does.

Drew McIntyre is another name I bring up because he has been dropped to even worse levels. He's another talented wrestler who just seems to be in a bad situation yet it's wrong. He is married to Tiffany, who is barley relevant to wrestling but still WWE cares so much. Tiffany got into a huge fight with Drew which led to her release. Because of this, Drew has slid down the table and it has just made me sick. This is a D-list diva were talking about, yet people feel like she is the reason for Drew's burial. The guy has seriously developed after struggling a bit in the first few months. Now I am not sure what's going to happen to him which saddens me. I'll never forget how he was barley promoted or mentioned in the Elimination Chamber before the match but then comes in and just creates excitement. He was slamming people into pods and really beating people down. The crowd even started a McIntyre chant which had me even screaming for him. It was awesome, yet WWE seemed to ignore it. WWE also seemed to ignore Bret Hart, Kevin Nash, and Roddy Piper on the praise for the guy. Why is this because he was involved with a meaningless diva. I just don't get WWE politics anymore and it just burns me up.


This sparked me up watching Maria's post WWE show video. She brought these two guys up and it just made me realize what is going on. Guys are being booked poorly due to women that they were involved with that don't even work for the company. These guys are suffering yet they have so much talent. They deserve TV time yet it doesn't matter these days. Hopefully WWE gets a clue sooner or later, realize that these guys are true talent. They have to realize that Mason Ryan is still raw and probably is going to fail a drug test, David Otunga needs to stay out of the ring, and other things. These two need to be used end of the story.
 

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Orton overlooked the man is just about as bad as John Cena with a title belt.

Morrison is his own worst enemy. Every time he gets close to a push he and those he keeps company with fuck it up. You hang out with shit you start to smell like it. He's had opportunities to separate himself with those people. He's now being used as a whipping boy because he won't commit. Melina left and John could have been a good employee but instead he choose to throw bitchfests on twitter which is why he is where is is right now. Morrison has great abilities but his attitude is piss poor and he's shit on the mic.

Drew has gotten pretty fucked soley because of a woman. Though because I've not heard about any backstage issues with him doesn't mean he doesnt have them.
 

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1. I told you all months ago that WWE would not follow through on the Morrison's push, and none of you listened, so a slice of humble pie to you all LOL.

2. To say these guys are suffering because of their relationships makes no sense. First of all a relationship is a two way thing, so if these wrestlers enter into one with a woman they know might be trouble, and then decide to stay in it, and their careers suffer as a result, then it is down to them just as much as their girlfriends. Second point on this, the way wrestling politics tends to work is that if the office like a wrestler enough and are behind his or her push, then I don't think this kind of thing is really going to change their minds, for example do you think if Randy Orton had a probmatic girlfriend then that would stop his push? I doubt it.
 

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Morrison and McIntyre are both under-used but I can understand why WWE aren't pushing them. Their partners (or ex-partners) were crazy and caused huge distractions for the company and if these two chose to stay with them then they must take responsibility for what they do as well. Morrison is too tightly wrapped around Melina's finger and he needs to man up and take charge of his own career rather than being controlled by her. Over time if these two are no longer with these crazy women then I am sure WWE will be right back on the bandwagon and they will push them to the top of the card.
 

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But Troy Melina is no longer in the company, so why do WWE still care if her and Morrison are together, it was an issue before because she was in the locker room, but she is no longer in the locker room, besides whose to say Morrison and Melina don't love each other, you can't expect Morrison to dump someone he might be in love with, just because it might affect his WWE push if he doesn't.

I know they are both mid-carders, but if WWE were really that much behind their pushes then it wouldn't matter who they dated.
 

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Just because she left doesn't make up for how much damage she did to Morrison's standing in the company during the time she was there. WWE aren't going to flick a switch and automatically forgive Morrison right away, he is going to have to earn his way back to the mainevent. Melina seemed to hint the other day that she and Morrison had split.

WWE were really behind Morrison's push, before his injury, and they derailed it pretty quickly so I think that within WWE it does matter who wrestlers date.
 

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Well I don't buy it, yes I think the thing with Melina has made some difference, but the fact is either WWE don't see Morrison as a main eventer, or they don't have the guts to push him all the way. The Melina thing is just a smoke screen IMO.
 

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I definitely think that Melina played a big role but you are right that WWE currently don't see him as a top star. Maybe they don't think that he has the right attitude to be the number one guy on the brand because of the way that he has reacted to Melina and hasn't stood up to her.
 

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Not to mention his mic skills. He can't cut a promo. Not with his current gimmick at least.
 

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I agree that his promos are by far his worst asset. His monotone delivery worked when he was a heel ECW Champion but as a face he doesn't really do much to excite the fans with his promos.
 

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Yeah and I forgot to mention he does not have the talent to be in main events, this guy has mid-card written all over him.
 

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I think that he could be a transitional champion but not the top guy on a brand. He doesn't seem to have that confidence about him and I just can't picture him as the number one guy.