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So what would you keep what would you eliminate or is it currently the right setup?

I honestly think that if you dumped the WHC it'd help. You'd hope that would place the IC one rung higher the US would stay at its jobber card status and the other two titles are only around for shits and giggle.
 

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Yeah, the WHC is pretty trash right now since the brand split is over. They aren't even fighting to be the best on SD! anymore. I'd scrap that after having a nice unification match. However, the stars that are currently feuding over that belt are are a higher level than the IC or US for that matter so then you got a few people floundering that shouldn't be and we already have some quality feuds with main eventers that aren't fighting over the WWE title but if booked smart we may actually get the IC title where it needs to be again as a stepping stone to the WWE title.
 

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Dumping titles isn't the answer. Booking quality angles making all the championships seem like they actually fucking matter is the answer.
 

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I like the big gold belt so would be reluctant to bin, but scrapping Smackdown and all it's titles wouldn't exactly be the worst thing ever.

Totally pointless show, nothing ever happens on it.
 

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Dumping titles isn't the answer. Booking quality angles making all the championships seem like they actually fucking matter is the answer.

But whats the point of two heavyweight champions with no brand split? One is obviously the champ and the other is filler.
 

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But whats the point of two heavyweight champions with no brand split? One is obviously the champ and the other is filler.

They don't have two Heavyweight Champions. They have the World Heavyweight Champion and the WWE Champion.

If you really want to get into semantics, the Big Gold Belt is the highest weight class title and Cena's belt is the Champion of the Company, or at least the title's ... title says so.

Everyone that watches wrestling understands the WWE title is more important than the WHC. So, my biggest argument that always comes with these "GET RID OF ONE WORLD TITLE" threads is... Why do you give a fuck so much? Sorry, I'm not trying to talk shit here, just truth. Would you really want them to get rid of a title with history like the Big Gold Belt in favor of the *relatively* new IC title? (I say relatively, as it was created the year I was born lol)

I certainly hope not. People rant on this with some anal OCD need to compartmentalize everything and need there to be a true order. There is, and everyone is aware of it. There is no confusion who is the more important champion: Cena or ...Ziggler. There is no confusion on which title means more to the WWE. So why do Smarks always want to drop down to 3-4 titles and think that'll magically make them MEAN something?

Look, most all of the storylines that we GET are revolved around the titles. Get rid of them and you've got 3-4 angles and 20 random matches every week.

Here's the list:

Divas
Tag team
IC
US
WHC
WWE Champ

(The placement of the IC and US changes on a monthly basis. Lately, Cesaro's reign outweighs anything they were doing with the IC, and now with Kofi as champ, those two have put on some good matches. Watch last week's Main Event title rematch (or whenever it was). It was a 20 (or more) minute VERY GOOD match)
 

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I like the big gold belt so would be reluctant to bin, but scrapping Smackdown and all it's titles wouldn't exactly be the worst thing ever.

Totally pointless show, nothing ever happens on it.

This is the only reason I would be disappointed if the WHC went away, the Big Gold Belt is my favorite belt design. But if you take it away, then you have the IC and US titles prestige go up since at the moment the WHC is as prestigious as the IC title was in 2000, definitely not close to being equal to the WWE title.
 

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I personally wouldn't want to drop a belt, I think theres just the right amount. Any more would be too much of a clusterfuck and any less would feel stretched. Just my opinion. I agree with those mentioning that quality angles can make the belts look 400x better than what they appear to be now.

I understand Raw is the flag ship show, so naturally they want the WWE championship there because of obvious reasons, but I really enjoyed when SD had that belt and Raw had the WHC. Perhaps it would be interesting to see it switched again, but with more emphasis on brand split would be nice. Thats just my two cents.
 

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They don't have two Heavyweight Champions. They have the World Heavyweight Champion and the WWE Champion.

If you really want to get into semantics, the Big Gold Belt is the highest weight class title and Cena's belt is the Champion of the Company, or at least the title's ... title says so.

Everyone that watches wrestling understands the WWE title is more important than the WHC. So, my biggest argument that always comes with these "GET RID OF ONE WORLD TITLE" threads is... Why do you give a fuck so much? Sorry, I'm not trying to talk shit here, just truth. Would you really want them to get rid of a title with history like the Big Gold Belt in favor of the *relatively* new IC title? (I say relatively, as it was created the year I was born lol)

I certainly hope not. People rant on this with some anal OCD need to compartmentalize everything and need there to be a true order. There is, and everyone is aware of it. There is no confusion who is the more important champion: Cena or ...Ziggler. There is no confusion on which title means more to the WWE. So why do Smarks always want to drop down to 3-4 titles and think that'll magically make them MEAN something?

Look, most all of the storylines that we GET are revolved around the titles. Get rid of them and you've got 3-4 angles and 20 random matches every week.

Here's the list:

Divas
Tag team
IC
US
WHC
WWE Champ

(The placement of the IC and US changes on a monthly basis. Lately, Cesaro's reign outweighs anything they were doing with the IC, and now with Kofi as champ, those two have put on some good matches. Watch last week's Main Event title rematch (or whenever it was). It was a 20 (or more) minute VERY GOOD match)

Honestly never thought of it in that manner. I'll have to try watching it that way for awhile and see where I fall.
 

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World title needs to be dumped. It is nowhere near as prestigious as it once was, and the roster isn't even big enough to need another main title.

I'd definitely keep the IC and US titles though. They may be like the World title and lack prestige and a general direction, but it really wouldn't take much to make them mean something again. They just need to be handled a lot better.
 

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I'd have Kofi unify both midcard titles, scrapping the US and Wade at the same time. Having one belt to focus on would swell the numbers of people to use in that division and hopefully make it more competitive. Anyone struggling to get a foothold then can be paired up to help the tag division out.
 
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I don't think it's really necessary to scrap the WHC. If something different is done with it, like maybe not giving it to Mysterio, Ziggler, or Bryan for instance, making it a HEAVYWEIGHT title, it would have more meaning. The WWE title could be like an "overall" championship open to anyone, and the two midcard titles can be stepping stone straps, and the tag titles can stay the same as they always have. There, all straps have a purpose, are of equal value and none have to be tossed...You're welcome. :sandow2:
 

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Actually sounds like a decent idea. I mean the reason I quite liked the Euro title at the start was because they kept it to the theme, before everyone started to win it. The only problem I have with your World title idea, is that WWE may struggle to come up with enough guys of that irk to compete for it, also it might limit the guys involved. It sounds a workable idea through.
 

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Actually sounds like a decent idea. I mean the reason I quite liked the Euro title at the start was because they kept it to the theme, before everyone started to win it. The only problem I have with your World title idea, is that WWE may struggle to come up with enough guys of that irk to compete for it, also it might limit the guys involved. It sounds a workable idea through.

A WWE Heavyweight is anyone over 225 lbs. Boxing is 205? If they ACTUALLY Wanted to go that way, they could do it however they really wanted lol. Not a big fan of the idea myself, I just don't see it working tbh.
 

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If that's the way to go about it I'd probably scrap US for Light Heavyweight just so all weight classes have a title. You'd then have the IC which could be a way to develop anyone that needed it. WWE grand champion overall. But Weez nailed it you could make any combo work with the right booking.