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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    Yeah, a problem with a match like this getting this much hype is it will always end up not living up to it for a lot of people. It ends up becoming real decisive.
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    Read this thread. I've said it about ten times in it
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    That people are still arguing over this rating is beyond me. Meltzer gave it 6 stars on his scale. Which is not a universal scale. Everyone sets their own metrics for how they judge and rate wrestling. (this is not in response to Grievous post. Rather a general response to all the fools still...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    I do not put much weight personally into individual moves for that to be a deciding factor for me. For me ringwork is a combination of the actual wrestling, and if it matches the character. Like if I am watching a Suwama (a All Japan wrestler) match, I am not going to put a lot of weight into...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    I'm not sure if I am making myself clear. It's the story as a whole that is important. Not the small, intricate parts of it. If I spent all my time watching wrestling going over a match move for move, looking for irregularities or ways they did not add up. I would probably start hating wrestling...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    You might do. I don't. I'm much more interested in the stories being told and wrestlers being able to broadcast their characters and visions to the world. I like chain wrestling, but it is by no means a requirement for me to think a match is perfect. Jun Akiyama vs Katsuyori Shibata is one of...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    That it makes me feel. That it has me invested. That it is fun to watch and well put together. That it has two performers that click and get it. I give zero fucks about amount of pinfall attempts, chain wrestling or such. I care about the story being told and if it connects with me. Some...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    Yes I would. Because I rated it as five stars based off of what I enjoy in wrestling. How many times must I say that. There is no universal measuring stick to what makes a good wrestling match. Everyone has different things that they like in wrestling. I for one hate multiple near falls early...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    I told you earlier in this thread that I gave it 5 stars. I don't usually go into the stars system since I do not operate on it when rating whatever wrestling I watch. But in my system this match would translate to a five star match. It was great because it was a main event spectacle with...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    Did you not read what I said? Dave updates his rating system when he feels the need to. Usually once every 15 years, and adds a star when he feels it is needed. He liked the match so much he updated HIS system. Nothing silly about that at all. These rating systems are by no means static, set in...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    Lets not be stupid here. Dave only rated matches on a 4 star scale up until the early-mid 90s. He's said it multiple times that he revisits his rating system from time to time to see if he needs to add a star or not. TV shows, movies, books, comics, games and much more are often rated on 1-10...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    No. They really do not. Constant near falls do more to bring down a match than elevate it
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    Matches don't need a bunch of near falls either. That comes down to taste
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    You said it yourself. In your opinion it was not the perfect match. In Meltzer's it was. Difference being that Dave Meltzer is the top journalist in the wrestling field and thus his opinion is going to carry more weight than yours, both in a positive and negative way. But at the end of the day...
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    The standard time limit for IWGP heavyweight matches is 60 minutes. Doesn't mean they have to go the full monty. But they have the option (in kayfabe)
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    Does Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega really deserve a six star rating?

    First: Moved to the international section since Meltzer's rating of Okada vs Omega has nothing to do with WWE. On topic: Meltzer has his obvious biases. He is a very big fan of the current New Japan product and has been for some time. So him rating that main event epic at that level is not that...
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