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  1. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    That's the paradox. In order to get paid you have to intend to do so at midnight the night before. The question is how can the billionaire know that you intend to do so?
  2. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    It's a thought experiment based on what it means to have intent and how does one measure that.
  3. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    Adding a contract only adds to the conditions of the experiment though. Which is why it shows that the billionaire is not beholden to actually pay you because if the contract is the reason for intent, then it is not really intent, it is a legal obligation. Being forced to agree to something via...
  4. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    In layman's terms: "If you do a thing, I will pay you." Is not the same as "I will pay you if you intend to do a thing but you don't have to actually do it."
  5. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    I should also reiterate, the payment is now contingent on you drinking the poison instead of intending to. If you don't drink the poison, you are liable and no longer get paid, even if you were paid beforehand. The contract's conditions are: You get paid, then you drink the poison. Which is...
  6. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    In doing so, the billionaire still doesn't have to pay you. Action is not the same as intention. If you drink the poison, then you acted on your intentions, but it is no longer intent when you have done something.
  7. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    Let me put it this way, if you're negotiating for a contract at midnight, that means the deadline has already passed. Therefore the contract is basically void.
  8. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    The contract doesn't actually prove it though. You can still renege on the contract, and the contract is likely not allowed in this thought experiment either. The question brought by the experiment is "How does one measure intent in a scenario where someone knows they can still choose not to do...
  9. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    The point isn't whether or not you actually drink the poison. The point is whether or not you actually intend to drink the poison knowing that you will be paid before you even drink it, therefore not actually having to drink the poison. That is what the million dollars are for. Not for drinking...
  10. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    Here's my solution. Drink half of the vial before midnight. This proves that you are willing and able to drink said poison, while also showing intention to drink the rest later. Thus the billionaire will give you the money whilst not needing to half to drink the rest of the poison, as you have...
  11. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    I believe there is a way to get the money, but I'm not quite sure what it is.
  12. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    But if you drink it at midnight, then you didn't intend to drink it in the Afternoon, which the bet was contingent on.
  13. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    How would he know that you actually intended to drink the poison though?
  14. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    You've fallen for the first part of the trap lol. If you drink it, you no longer intended to drink the poison. You actually did drink the poison, therefore would the Billionaire be liable to actually give you money?
  15. Bobby Barrows

    The Great Debate: Kavka's Toxin Puzzle

    "An eccentric billionaire places before you a vial of toxin that, if you drink it, will make you painfully ill for a day, but will not threaten your life or have any lasting effects. The billionaire will pay you one million dollars tomorrow morning if, at midnight tonight, you intend to drink...
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