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  1. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    Sandman’s gimmick was drinking beer... he didn’t have a definable character. Austin was a rebellious redneck who happened to drink beer. Raven did an actual crucifixion and mocked Christianity which led to a major backlash, near riot in the crowd to where he had to apologize, causing Kurt...
  2. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    Whenever I say something doesn’t draw I’m talking about a mainstream audience/drawing enough. For what ECW/Paul Heyman was trying to do, he didn’t draw. He was trying to be mainstream when his company, was behind the times stuck in the 80s/early 90s world of adult Morton Downey Jr syndication...
  3. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    You’re comparing apples to oranges. SMW, ECW went out of business due to not drawing enough, WCW never ever went out of business and never was going to go out of business. It drew until its last day. It was bought by another company that refused to do anything with it and put it on the shelf...
  4. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    That’s what I’m saying, ECW drew in a niche but didn’t draw enough to be mainstream because it was out of touch with Late 1990’s/Early 2000’s pop culture. Despite that they kept trying to force it to be mainstream when it wasn’t. If they wanted to be mainstream they needed to be like WWF...
  5. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    Those companies make more money than they spend. Those companies drew less but stay within their budget and never grew. ECW/Paul Heyman tried to FORCE an expansion, he was increasing the supply when there wasn’t enough demand, because he was out of touch with pop culture. So he had to be...
  6. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    Indemand PPV owed ECW $2.8 million ECW had $8,881,435 in debt. They were going out of business regardless. https://www.morningjournal.com/news/ecw-officially-bankrupt-officially-done/article_5f125e97-38ec-5375-8beb-54105dfe4c41.html
  7. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    Even creatively, because they were tapping into pop culture an entire half a decade before WCW and WWF were, then when WCW and WWF tap into late 90s pop culture ECW becomes an out of touch grunge era/Morton Downey Jr show. The WWF and WCW did pop culture better than ECW, they were already into...
  8. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    A bunch of gymnastics, none of them drew because the products sucked. Once WCW got good in 96... it drew. Once WWF got good in 98... it drew, then when they got really good at the end of 98 entering 99 with The Rock, they beat WCW. SMW sucked so much/drew so low because they had the worst...
  9. RLStern

    Paul Heyman and ECW's Books

    The fact that it went out of business shows it sucked. It doesn’t matter if those in a niche bubble liked it. ECW is another example, it sucked, no matter what excuses Paul Heyman makes it simply wasn’t good enough to generate enough people to watch, most didn’t like it, even if a niche bubble...
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