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But yeah, that’s the only thing that I’m thinking about because Biden had the list. Why didn’t he release it if it existed and who’s on it cause at this point everybody’s working together to keep that thing hidden and it’s just crazy to me.
And sadly too many people are caught up in the politics of it and the everything's has to be either black or white social media wars bullshit... because this case has first and foremost to do with the elite of society putting their differences aside to save their own asses.
 

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What pisses me off tbh is if you speak ill of Trump, his supporters tell you leave the fucking country, like they didnt spend 4 years doing the same with Biden. The same people who yell Freedom of Speech anytime they say outlandish, off the wall shit, want you to leave the country if you use said Freedom of Speech, to talk badly about Trump.
 

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What pisses me off tbh is if you speak ill of Trump, his supporters tell you leave the fucking country, like they didnt spend 4 years doing the same with Biden. The same people who yell Freedom of Speech anytime they say outlandish, off the wall shit, want you to leave the country if you use said Freedom of Speech, to talk badly about Trump.
There's a good explanation for that and it's actually pretty simple.

People who worship Trump, hardcore Republican voters, etc. don't actually care about the First Amendment because they already have twisted the meaning into whatever way they want it to.

Freedom of speech means freedom to commit hate speech so long as you follow a certain side.

Freedom of religion means freedom to perform Christian evangelicalism, but not Jewish or Islamic practices.

Freedom of assembly means that only white people are allowed to assemble; a group of black people protesting gets called a riot and bad-faith actors accuse the entire group of looting.

Freedom of the Press means that Fox News and other right-wing rags are allowed to spread misinformation, lies, slander, and any ill-faith arguments so long as it agitates and spooks the people enough into agreeing with them and keeping them compliant against the left. But left-leaning newspapers and blogs should not be allowed to exist, because they spread "woke agenda".

Freedom to Petition the government means nothing, because the government is already perfect under Trump, why would anyone have complaints outside of Woke leftist communists who don't know what good governing is.
 
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Also yes, I agree with Jeff on this. I don't think Democrats are anywhere near as culpable for the Epstein list being censored as compared to Trump, Republican elites, donors, and others.

I mean fuck, I guarantee that that no good piece of filth excuse for a Justice in Clarence Thomas is on the list too.
Its not about being culpable or not, it's about focusing on who's doing what "right now". Talking about Democrats when the presidency is using its power to actively suppress ongoing investigations and starting their own witch hunts against political enemies , and doing so publically and brazenly is , in my opinion, a gigantic waste of time and only serves to normalize the behavior by falsely pointing out that "well everyone does it too". It's the same tired argument people used to use against steroids in sports when people got caught .

The fact someone else may have done a bad thing before you doesn't suddenly make it ok or normal. And ya I think saying stuff like Trump is only guilty if Democrats are also is irresponsible and a logical fallacy that only serves at deflecting the current issue. It's just not useful in any way. Time and place.
 

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Does nobody remember the fact that Joe Biden was president from 2020 to 2024? I feel like I’m going crazy here.
Not a single person has forgotten this or said otherwise. It's just irrelevant. Trump also had the list before him during his first presidency and Epstein iirc died under his watch.

Nobody is in here arguing Biden is cool or not part of the global elite.

Agnd I'll flip it around on you, why are Republicans still talking about Biden and Kamala and Hillary everytime they do some nasty corrupt shit? We gonna bring up Hunters laptop next?

It's like an acid reflux for Rs at this point
 

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Almost like every accusation has been a future admission of intent
 

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Not a single person has forgotten this or said otherwise. It's just irrelevant. Trump also had the list before him during his first presidency and Epstein iirc died under his watch.

Nobody is in here arguing Biden is cool or not part of the global elite.

Agnd I'll flip it around on you, why are Republicans still talking about Biden and Kamala and Hillary everytime they do some nasty corrupt shit? We gonna bring up Hunters laptop next?

It's like an acid reflux for Rs at this point
Biden had the ability to release the list and he didn’t. If you don’t think that’s notable, that’s fine. It has nothing to do with anything else that you’re talking about. I don’t give a shit about any Democrats versus Republicans nonsense when it comes to kids. You seem far more concerned about it with how hard you seemingly only want to consider possible Republican guilt. I don’t honestly care about Donald Trump getting in trouble or any other Republicans. They can take down half of the GOP Congress and stop Republicans from winning another seat for the next two decades. Anybody that has anything to do with Epstein needs to rot in hell and needs to be held accountable. Anyways, that’s my peace on this.
 

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I think you need to reread my posts if you took it that way. Don't meant to pick on you but it's a thing I've noticed especially in the R side I. The ability to always have the subject also encapsulate Ds so everyone is rolling in the shit.

For what it's worth I do not know the legalities of a US president releasing a list in a criminal case to the public, not a lawyer or a constitution expert .

But I do think there's a large gap between not releasing the list , which was done under both previous administration, and what happened yesterday : the straight up denial a list even exists.

At no point did I say people involved should not be punished, so that's also an emotional response and appealing to emotion , not a valid argument.

Again not trying to pick on you or invalidate your opinion. Just pointing out it's something that happens a lot and I personally find it distracts from the now. Nothing I said was untrue or personal.
 
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What pisses me off tbh is if you speak ill of Trump, his supporters tell you leave the fucking country, like they didnt spend 4 years doing the same with Biden. The same people who yell Freedom of Speech anytime they say outlandish, off the wall shit, want you to leave the country if you use said Freedom of Speech, to talk badly about Trump.
If those MAGA folk tell me to leave the country I was born in, I will tell them that I'll leave once I'm dead and gone. MAGA folk are acting like a cult. I will say that Trump is a bad person and they will tell me to leave my own country and I will tell them to piss off.
 

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Does nobody remember the fact that Joe Biden was president from 2020 to 2024? I feel like I’m going crazy here.

Well, I sort of agree with you. BUT having me of all people agree with you doesn't really speak to your sanity, so maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that...
 

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Do you think the earths flat ?
It just blows my mind how so many people buy into what the government are selling....ok do you think Trump is a good guy? I'm guessing no so why do you believe anything else these swamp creatures say?

Palantir....it's named after that fucking thing in Lord of the Rings that spies on people and that disgusting CEO said on camera they will kill people. Mental

9/11 - yeah some guy in a cave planned it all. And I'm going to go there....you do realize that there isn't actually one picture of Earth from space that isn't photoshopped? I think the guys called mr blue paint and he said he photoshops everything
 
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What pisses me off tbh is if you speak ill of Trump, his supporters tell you leave the fucking country, like they didnt spend 4 years doing the same with Biden. The same people who yell Freedom of Speech anytime they say outlandish, off the wall shit, want you to leave the country if you use said Freedom of Speech, to talk badly about Trump.
This is pretty much why I haven't been very political in a while. And if you mention this to any of them, they normally won't even acknowledge you.

It is like talking to a conspiracy theorist. It is best to just avoid them. If you literally took a moon landing denier to the moon to prove that we have done it, they will claim that you either drugged them or you flew them to a really huge domed area with a huge moon looking stage.
 
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