Triple H puts talent over

[Evil Austin]

Look Triple H on the internet for years has been receiving heat because he is married to the boss's daughter. And that is the reason why he has so many title runs and he doesn't put over talent is the main arguement against Triple H. I myself am I Triple H mark and I want to prove to you that he does do more for the company then you realise.

Ill start with putting talent over. (The big 4 PPV's)

Wrestle Mania; the grandest stage of them all; if you can win here in the main event it puts you down in the history books forever.

Triple H has at Wrestle Mania! put over Randy Orton, Dave Batista, John Cena, the Undertaker, Chris Benoit, Ultimate Warrior, Kane & Now I have also done some more research and try and name more wrestlers who have put over more then five or six people at Wrestle Manias. I think Triple H is the only one who has put over more people then a one hand could count.

Lets take another look at Summerslam; another important Pay Per View.

He has put over; Shawn Michaels, Makind (1997 & 99'), The Rock.

Survivor Series.

1996 - Triple H losed a Classic SS Match, The Big Show (1999), Steve Austin (2000), Shawn Michaels (EC CHamber 2002), Goldberg 2003, Team Orton 2004, Edge (2008).

Now Onto the Royal Rumble.

Duke Deroese 1996, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner, Shawn Michaels (he didn't win but he put him over in a good way.), Rey Mysterio (2006 by RR Elimination), Randy Orton 09' To win the RR.

And lastly Triple H's Win / Loss record in the WWE is 209/400

So that is proof when it matters in the Big 4 Triple H does put talent over more often then what he wins.

So I end my first arguement; feel free to comment I have to go to school' so like Ill post more parts later to this.

 

[JurassicBonez]

And lastly Triple H's Win / Loss record in the WWE is 209/400

So that is proof when it matters in the Big 4 Triple H does put talent over more often then what he wins.

Well technically, his win lose record means nothing. You could be in a Triple Threat match, completely squash one guy, and they take the pin but you lose, that doesn't mean you put someone over. Let's say for example during the mania match, Benoit vs Triple H vs HBK. Triple H could have squashed and buried Benoit, HBK super kicks him (Triple H) and then Benoit hits the CrossFace on HBK and he taps. Just cause he lost doesn't mean he put him over.

That could also work vis versa as well. You can win a match, but still but someone over during the match. Take the same example as I said above with Benoit vs HBK vs Triple H. Benoit could have beat the shit out of Triple H, got the upper hand during the whole match, countering all Triple H's moves, knocking him out, he has Triple H in the cross face, HBK breaks it up Benoit fights off HBK and turns around into the Pedigree. Though he lost, he still got put over. Cena does that, he may win, but he still puts talent over in the process.

So the Win/Loss shouldn't come into account when referring to putting talent over.

And for the record, I'm not a Triple H hater, just thought I'd say that.

 

[Evil Austin]

True but people always say Triple H will win (when a match for him is annoucned.) and that he never loses. because of his backstage pull. I am just pointing out his win/loss record to prove that his loss record is nearly double.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Half of those matches weren't HHH putting someone over.

Why?

Because you include results from 1996-2001, and by then, HHH losing was that, just HHH losing, as he wasn't in the level of putting someone over.



...and, even if I am not one myself, haters might have noted you listed Shawn Michaels as getting put over. HBK getting put over? I don't think so, as he was as over as he could be. Besides, another argument that could get thrown in there is that HBK is HHH's friend and that's why he did it.

 

[gatesoftanhauser]

He does put people over. Although I'm still angry about 'Mania 18 vs Jericho where he HUMILIATED and BURIED him in maybe one of the worst main event storylines ever.

"You ran over my Dog, Jericho!!" - HHH

"Go pick up my dry cleaning, Chris" - Steph

 

[Moonlight Drive]

Losing clean doesn't always equal putting someone over.

 

[Kizza]

Triple H has at Wrestle Mania! put over Randy Orton, Dave Batista, John Cena, the Undertaker, Chris Benoit, Ultimate Warrior, Kane

I will only count Batista & Cena and possibly Orton, because the others were already well known at the time that Triple H lost to them. None of them were up and coming guys, which is essentially what "putting over" means. When was the last time he lost clean to Funaki?

He has put over; Shawn Michaels, Makind (1997 & 99'), The Rock.

Again, 3 of some of the biggest superstars in WWF/E history. Already incredibly well known, and popular/hated by fans. Again, its YOUNGER/NOT AS OVER talent that counts. Those three guys were in the main event at the same time.

1996 - Triple H losed a Classic SS Match, The Big Show (1999), Steve Austin (2000), Shawn Michaels (EC CHamber 2002), Goldberg 2003, Team Orton 2004, Edge (2008).

In any of those matches, was he the last man pinned? Plus, besides maybe Orton, those guys were already OVER. This argument has no basis if the guys are already believable.

Duke Deroese 1996, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner, Shawn Michaels (he didn't win but he put him over in a good way.), Rey Mysterio (2006 by RR Elimination), Randy Orton 09' To win the RR.

In 1996, Triple H wasn't a main eventer. He hadn't held a title (correct me if i'm wrong ) and he wasn't the major player. Steiner was already a big name, so was Michaels, Rey was very popular and Orton is the companies top star.

So, it's not putting over unless the guys are not established as credible, and Triple H wasn't credible as a main eventer himself. That's why losing in 1996 is non applicable as putting over talent, because Triple H himself was only just starting.

 

[Moonlight Drive]

By your logic, every time somebody pins Funaki cleanly he is putting them over.

 

[Kizza]

By your logic, every time somebody pins Funaki cleanly he is putting them over.

No, my logic is that being pinned by guys already in the main event is not putting them over. Or when you're not established, losing to guys at the same level is also not putting them over. I used Funaki as an example as clearly, Funaki is not at the same level as Triple H, so Funaki pinning him clean after 10-15 minutes I would classify as HHH putting Funaki over.

 

[Moonlight Drive]

Lol, that was directed at DX. >_>

I've really gotta start specifying shit like that.

 

[Kizza]

Oh, sorry.

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Ultimate Warrior? You do realise you're using examples from before when he had political poweers, right? They do nothing for your argument.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

He even thinks HHH put STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN OVER in 2000.


Evil Austin, you are doing nothing for HHH. Leave the defence of the King of Kings to other HHH fans who actually have a clue of what they are saying

 

[Moonlight Drive]

I lol'd @ him 'putting over' HBK in 97

 

[Quintastic One]

So getting eliminated from the royal rumble equates putting an opponent over? Damn, I should pay more attention to who is in line for a big push with every elimination next year.