I think one of the hallmarks of every great era in wrestling is the fact that they had factions. It started in the territory days with Russian stables or like the original Legion Of Doom. Then later we had the first faction ever The 4 Horsemen in the NWA and the Heenan Family up north in the WWE. Following that in the mid 90s we had Money Inc who ran in the WWE. In the late 1990s, of course, we had a boom of sorts with the nWo, DX, The Hart Foundation, NOD, Los Boriquas, the LwO, the bWo, the Corporation, and a bunch of others I am probably forgetting. Then finally the WWE had, in the 2000's JBLs Cabinet and Evolution. Does the WWE need factions? Or is it something that is just icing on the cake so to speak?
Are They Necessary?
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Stables are awesome... But not too many... In this day and age, there arent enough main eventers to have 4 or 5 stables at a time, because its alot harder to make stars, and by putting them all in stabels, you would use them up. But I think stables add a whole new demention to the show, and they are needed.
Take La Familia for example... Since they came, it added something to Smackdown... Yes, the Taker feud went too long, but could you imagine it without them? It would be bad... But because there was a stable there, it made my storylines, and will continue to do that, and I just like what it adds to the show..
And now that we are getting another stable, although we dont know which one, Im sure it will add something to Raw as well... but they have to make the right none. If they make bad decisions and booking, with like all young guys, it could screw up, but I like the idea of a Jericho one.
I liekd what Evolution brought, and same goes for JBL's cabinet, as they help get people over.
But to answer the question, they arent needed, as wwe has gone on without them, they are more the icing on the cake,a nd make the product more enjoyable.
Take La Familia for example... Since they came, it added something to Smackdown... Yes, the Taker feud went too long, but could you imagine it without them? It would be bad... But because there was a stable there, it made my storylines, and will continue to do that, and I just like what it adds to the show..
And now that we are getting another stable, although we dont know which one, Im sure it will add something to Raw as well... but they have to make the right none. If they make bad decisions and booking, with like all young guys, it could screw up, but I like the idea of a Jericho one.
I liekd what Evolution brought, and same goes for JBL's cabinet, as they help get people over.
But to answer the question, they arent needed, as wwe has gone on without them, they are more the icing on the cake,a nd make the product more enjoyable.
I really think that factions are needed in wrestling. They make for good stories and in my opinion it would be realistic for factions to be made if wrestling was real. I miss factions.
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factions are needed, they make the shows great and they make the best storylines. just like mike said, smackdown would be trash if la familia wasn't there. they would have more single matches without interfering and stuff like that. WWE deffinently needs to make more factions like that such as the new evolution.
What wrestling needs is me. I'd be such a good heel, but they'd set me up for a gigantic push because I would own so hard, and right before I win the WHC when I'm over as fuck (you know, people throwing shit at me when I walk down the ramp cuz I'm such an asshole) I'd get suspended because of the Wellness Policy. 
Do you think it would make wrestling be more realistic? Like back in the NWA days, the faces like Dusty would have to fight through everyone to get to Ric Flair. I think it makes it more dramatic. And I alway thought that a faction of young guys would be a good idea like they might be starting.
Jericho, Cade, DiBiase, and Smith? That would be pretty awesome.. They could do Team Y2J vs. Re-Evolution (Orton/Batista/2 Others) just to get to the face stable of (IDK, what face stables are there lol)
IMO they don't need stables/Factions But it does help it makes for better TV story-lines, Promos, etc. Storyline wise with a faction you get outlets story lines branching off the main one so to speak so you have a couple of feuds based around the one storyline so the feud goes on longer.
I also think the reason we don't have faction now is not due to the lack of talent but due to the fact that
1) WWE has no real competition now so McMahon wont take the risks with new up and coming talent like he used to back then he doesn't need to
2) With stars fucking up and failing wellness policy he is reluctant to let them see what they can do. But i think if he gave the young stars the ball like cade, birchill( i no they not new) koffi, punk, Burke, MVP Kennedy and let them run with it they would do just fine. There is a few possible superstars that could make up some good faction if given the chance.
As for evolution2 i don't want to see that it would always be compared to the original and it wont ever measure up to it so it would be doomed to fail from the start.
I also think the reason we don't have faction now is not due to the lack of talent but due to the fact that
1) WWE has no real competition now so McMahon wont take the risks with new up and coming talent like he used to back then he doesn't need to
2) With stars fucking up and failing wellness policy he is reluctant to let them see what they can do. But i think if he gave the young stars the ball like cade, birchill( i no they not new) koffi, punk, Burke, MVP Kennedy and let them run with it they would do just fine. There is a few possible superstars that could make up some good faction if given the chance.
As for evolution2 i don't want to see that it would always be compared to the original and it wont ever measure up to it so it would be doomed to fail from the start.
ARE THEY NECESSARY?
I'd say no...because stables only came about in the attitude/hogan era around that time because of like the "Rushed" atmosphere feeling that most people got around that time and their just wasn't really-enough time or patience to help get a bunch of guys over at once, so like why not just throw them all in one big group and package them together up againest other groups or have the stable job to the MainEvent-Player(like hogan or austin) and stuff like that....
other than that, a stable really isn't necessary unless you're a lazy promoter and can't think of any good storylines to keep things going and such...or if you like don't see much potiental in some younger guys then like group them up in a stable...
I dunno, but like yea...
JBL's cabinet and Evolution and such?...like really?
Was it just me or did the shows(smackdown/raw) completely Suck-Ass in
03-06?....cause like...seriously, I for-some reason blame the stables for lame storys and such, I dunno...but like...yea-I'm not too keen or big on "Stables/Factions" and stuff like that....
maybe if the WWE-Roster was full of wussie wrestlers(lutherreigns/markjindrak/heidenreich/orlandojorden, la-resistance) like that and none of those wrestlers could get over, then it might be ok-ish to start some kind've stable and such...
ya-El-Hear-O?!
I'd say no...because stables only came about in the attitude/hogan era around that time because of like the "Rushed" atmosphere feeling that most people got around that time and their just wasn't really-enough time or patience to help get a bunch of guys over at once, so like why not just throw them all in one big group and package them together up againest other groups or have the stable job to the MainEvent-Player(like hogan or austin) and stuff like that....
other than that, a stable really isn't necessary unless you're a lazy promoter and can't think of any good storylines to keep things going and such...or if you like don't see much potiental in some younger guys then like group them up in a stable...
I dunno, but like yea...
JBL's cabinet and Evolution and such?...like really?
Was it just me or did the shows(smackdown/raw) completely Suck-Ass in
03-06?....cause like...seriously, I for-some reason blame the stables for lame storys and such, I dunno...but like...yea-I'm not too keen or big on "Stables/Factions" and stuff like that....
maybe if the WWE-Roster was full of wussie wrestlers(lutherreigns/markjindrak/heidenreich/orlandojorden, la-resistance) like that and none of those wrestlers could get over, then it might be ok-ish to start some kind've stable and such...
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I go with a few others factions are not needed but they sure make it better...
I like watching factions because it adds to the storylines and makes it better IMO...
like Kaedon said...How the face would have to fight thought the other members just to get to the main man...
like lets say we had a Heel Stable of and I know these people are not on the same show....but Orton,Burke,MVP,and CM Punk(who we turn heel)...
now we have Orton as champion and Cena wants a shot at the title...first he gots to fight Punk..he beats him...then MVP...beats him....Burke...and beats him...then he gets to Orton and not only has to fight Orton but has to fight Burke MVP and Punk who all come to ringside at one point or another...and we have Orton beat him the first time cause of the team...then the next month they have a cage match and Orton wins yet again cause his team helped...but then we meet in a hell in the cell where Cena gets the win because no the team can not help Orton...
now I know not everyone wants to see Cena as champ..and I really don't right now either but thats just like an example of what it could be like so yea its not need but makes it better IMO...
I like watching factions because it adds to the storylines and makes it better IMO...
like Kaedon said...How the face would have to fight thought the other members just to get to the main man...
like lets say we had a Heel Stable of and I know these people are not on the same show....but Orton,Burke,MVP,and CM Punk(who we turn heel)...
now we have Orton as champion and Cena wants a shot at the title...first he gots to fight Punk..he beats him...then MVP...beats him....Burke...and beats him...then he gets to Orton and not only has to fight Orton but has to fight Burke MVP and Punk who all come to ringside at one point or another...and we have Orton beat him the first time cause of the team...then the next month they have a cage match and Orton wins yet again cause his team helped...but then we meet in a hell in the cell where Cena gets the win because no the team can not help Orton...
now I know not everyone wants to see Cena as champ..and I really don't right now either but thats just like an example of what it could be like so yea its not need but makes it better IMO...
Stables are awesome they can do so much good for a young wrestler who has potential. They can also push upper-midcarders and midcarders to main event level and can push main eventers.
Take Evolution for example, it pushed all 4 men. If it hadn't have been for Evolution Orton and Batista probably wouldn't be where they are today.
Take Evolution for example, it pushed all 4 men. If it hadn't have been for Evolution Orton and Batista probably wouldn't be where they are today.
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Stables are really great, they really get the wrestlers over its just that every Stable is heel! Its good to get them popular and more heat but alot of people want to see a face stable Vs heel stable, that would be great but they are to focused on heel stables.
I think that La Familia isnt to good of a Stable, I mean, I like all the superstars in it (hate vickie) but the Stable just does the same shit over and over. Chavo has a match and Bam Neely interupts, Edge has a match and his 2 little bitches interupt (some times also with the other two). I know that heel stables do that quite a bit but these guys do it every week and you just know you are not going to enjoy a match with those guys in it. The Stable that RAW keep hinting towards is looking great though and they have alot of young talent for it.
I think that La Familia isnt to good of a Stable, I mean, I like all the superstars in it (hate vickie) but the Stable just does the same shit over and over. Chavo has a match and Bam Neely interupts, Edge has a match and his 2 little bitches interupt (some times also with the other two). I know that heel stables do that quite a bit but these guys do it every week and you just know you are not going to enjoy a match with those guys in it. The Stable that RAW keep hinting towards is looking great though and they have alot of young talent for it.