Does He Really Care?

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Shelton Benjamin was tipped as the future of the WWE at the end of 2004. He was given a nice push, was having great matches, and was enjoying an Intercontinental Championship reign.

Then somewhere it went wrong. Suddenly WWE demoted him for almost no reason. And I think that Shelton too that to heart, because now it seems like he couldn't really care about wrestling.

This may just be me pissed because I saw him live a couple of hours ago, and he obviously didn't want to be there. But I think Shelton as a whole just doesn't care anymore.

Thoughts?

PS: Die Shelton :gun_rifle:

 

[edgehead09]

I'm telling you.....Carlito and Shelton need to be in a stable....Carlito can go on the mic and both can go in the ring


plus, they both dont want to be there....that can be there gimmick....

Blurring the line

 

[MikeRaw]

I never bought into his hype... The internet always loved him, but I dont know why... He hasnt really shown anything on the mic, but I wont say anything bad about his inring work.... His inring work is simply great, and he always puts on good matches...
Now, as for this thread, I dont know wheter he cares or not, because I wasnt at the house show, and dont watch ECW nowadays, so I couldnt say, but it wouldnt surprise me if hes not motivated... I mean,a t some point it has to catch on how stupid it is that your thw "gold standard" yet your on of the least decorated guys in the WWE. :laugh:

 

[CenaMark54]

The 2004 version was overrated. And he rarely puts on good matches. He is good in MITB and thats it.

 

[kingovkings]

TBH i have never seen anything in Shelton. I cant fault his in-ring ability, but that alone doesnt cut it he has no charisma, no mic skills, and the crowd reaction is virtually nil. Even a mega push from HHH didn't work so i don't know what else can be done with him. He isn't main event status and from the crowd reaction and his mic skills never will be. But what separates him from carlito is his work effort Shelton does at least try and puts 100% ever match were Carly doesn't.

 

[Haze187]

The 2004 version was overrated. And he rarely puts on good matches. He is good in MITB and thats it.

Wow that has to be the Blue comment of the week.
He rarely puts on a great match? Maybe if they put him with people that can go, for example Kofi you wouldn't be saying special ed comments like this.

Anyway well I just think he lacks so much mic skills that it just makes you feel sorried for him because he is just so good in the ring. I wouldn't care either if I was losing every match I'm in. But in part is his fault, he just isn't trying to improve his mic. I would give him a manager, Matt Striker isn't doing shit, give him Shelton.

 

[J]

Just as i said in the Carlito thread...How are you supposed to stay motived...and how is wrestling supposed to continue to be the thing that you love...When every time you go into work...You know that your going in to lose to another person...Maybe you'll get lucky and get a win once or twice a year...It sucks when guys like Carlito and Shelton are so underused they lose there love for wrestling...

 

[KenFan4life]

meh...

I never cared for Shelton Benjamin.....

I mean, sure he's like a great athlete and stuff, but he's not much of a good-in-ring general....


its like...you've got Cena...and you've got Shelthong....

Shelthong can like...do all this incredible stuff in the ring, and do all these sick-cool-looking spots and such.....but He can't really-tell much of a tale in the ring...

then Cena, he can do some athletic stuff and such, but he's much better at planning spots and stringing them together so as to create a great-match....



honestly....I think that "sure, they can push him again, like in 04"..

but again, I'll be like "Hey, the only reason he got pushed in 04/05, was cause of how $hitty the WWE-Roster was back then....remember OrlandoJorden/Heidenriech/MarkJIndrak/BashamBrothers/etc,etc..."


ya-heard?!

 

[CenaMark54]

If you get demotivated by losing a scripted wrestling match, you need to find a new career.

Honestly, your job is to go out there and perform win, lose, or draw. There are a lot of wrestlers who take pride in making their opponent look good in a match he is booked to lose.

 

[Haze187]

No because that's not his character, I am sure Shelton has a higher goal then being a glorified jobber. Guys who take pride in losing like Spike Dudley just wanted to be there, they were happy just being in the ring. But Shelton he has higher dreams because he knows he can make it but you start to hate your job if you don't get a raise for busting your ass for years. But again its not the company's fault, its him that don't realize that if he doesn't learn to talk on the mic he aint going nowhere. Again this guy is amazing in the ring like it or not, wrestling changes, it goes through phases and right now what people wanna see is crazy stuff and athletic guys. Notice how when there is a good match like Kofi vs. Shelton people start to cheer different, they get up, they start to clap for almost every move. When you have other standard match fans usually just sit. And wait until a pinfall or finisher comes. Its a different atmosphere in the arena when a on TODAY's standard is a good match is happening then when a traditional match is happening. Notice there is respect for the athletes in the ring. If you don't like those types of matches then don't watch them. How you gonna say that Shelton's matches aren't good just because you think every match has to have a story behind, when you watch every other fighting sport do you see them trying to tell you fairy tale? Hell no they gonna fuck each other up, that's what a Shelton match is like. A real competitive match most of the time. Welcome to 2008.

 

[chessarmy]

I don't think the problem is that he doesn't want to be there, the problem is WWE just doesn't think he is going to be a star. This may be due to his mic work and overness. I think if Shelton can get some better mic skills, he could easily be a main eventer in a few years. The problem is WWE just doesn't see it in him, so he'll probably stay where he is at until he retires

 

[CenaMark54]

No because that's not his character, I am sure Shelton has a higher goal then being a glorified jobber. Guys who take pride in losing like Spike Dudley just wanted to be there, they were happy just being in the ring. But Shelton he has higher dreams because he knows he can make it but you start to hate your job if you don't get a raise for busting your ass for years. But again its not the company's fault, its him that don't realize that if he doesn't learn to talk on the mic he aint going nowhere. Again this guy is amazing in the ring like it or not, wrestling changes, it goes through phases and right now what people wanna see is crazy stuff and athletic guys. Notice how when there is a good match like Kofi vs. Shelton people start to cheer different, they get up, they start to clap for almost every move. When you have other standard match fans usually just sit. And wait until a pinfall or finisher comes. Its a different atmosphere in the arena when a on TODAY's standard is a good match is happening then when a traditional match is happening. Notice there is respect for the athletes in the ring. If you don't like those types of matches then don't watch them. How you gonna say that Shelton's matches aren't good just because you think every match has to have a story behind, when you watch every other fighting sport do you see them trying to tell you fairy tale? Hell no they gonna fuck each other up, that's what a Shelton match is like. A real competitive match most of the time. Welcome to 2008.

If you have higher goals, dreams and aspirations, isn't the best way to get there through hard work? You shouldn't just claim you have main event talent and expect to get what you think you deserve on a silver platter.

And his character is a jobber and he should be happy to be working for the WWE.

Say what you want about HHH. He was a jobber when he first came up. He lost to the Ultimate Warrior in like 16 seconds at his first mania. He took the brunt of the Madison Square Garden incident and didn't complain once. He worked hard and finally got his chance when HBK retired for the first time. He earned his chance to be a main player. He wasn't handed anything without paying his dues first.

Guys like Shelton and Carlito need to learn that sulking and not giving your all is no way to get to the top.

 

[KenFan4life]

yeah!

Like CenaMark54 said...


I mean, check out Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Triple H , Mick Foley's careers...

They all had to go through a period in which they got jobbed out completely...Shawn in his early Federation years was just some tagteam guy...and he worked his ass off til he got pushed to the top and such...same for Bret...
Steve Austin in wcw....
Triple H got fed to the Ultimate Warrior at WM12, and such....

and MIck Foley hasn't won a match in years....but he still mainevented several ppvs and won several WWE Championships...

ya-heard?!

 

[Haze187]

No the difference is that they didn't come in as jobbers so why bring in a guy and hype him up then turn him into a jobber? Makes no sense. That's called burial.

 

[KenFan4life]

Whoa...word, the same thing kind've almost happened to Kennedy/Umaga/MVP/CM Punk, but they all managed to continue to keep up their motivation to go in the ring, put in a good effort to have a good to great match....

I mean, Kennedy got jobbed to supercrazy/lashley/jeffhardy when he first came to raw....but he managed to be professional about it and continue to keep his head up and put in a good effort in the ring, and now he's starting to get pushed.

MVP for awhile after losing the US Title, was only on smackdown to seemingly job to several uppermidcard/mainevent faces and such, but now he's starting to get back on track as it seems he might be getting drafted to RAW soon...


CM Punk was on a huge losing streak when he was feuding with John Morrison last year, til he finally got the ECW Title and such...



Kane was jobbed out a bunch of times , but its like...he man'd up and was a pro-about it and such...



umaga is umaga...



so like anyways, Carlito/Shelton Benjamin just need to learn how to eat shit and like the taste of it, cause at the moment they aren't winning, but theres still no need for them to sit around and complain about it....they should just use this time now to practice new moves and learn how to be a better In-Ring General...and such....and when they actually get pushed, they might be ready for it....ya-heard?!