Umaga

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Alright, with the draft looming, and an imminent move for Umaga, what is bound for him next? Everyone was saying that he would move to SmackDown! then feud with Undertaker over the World Heavyweight Championship. Now it is quite obvious that it is not going to happen (for obvious reasons), so what is Umaga actually going to do?

I would really like to see him have a World Heavyweight Championship reign, but I don't see it happening right now, with Edge being Champion. Nor do I want to see an Edge vs Umaga feud, because I never want to see Umaga ever turn face again. Smiley monsters suck, and Umaga in his three week face run was no different.

CM Punk wouldn't be a bad opponent at all, and with Punk seemingly losing everything (for a possible heel turn I guess), Umaga beating him in a feud could well happen. The matches would have great potnetial, with Punk as a huge underdog.

Another feud I want to see Umaga in would be against Finlay. Finlay is meant to be tough and wouldn't back down from the big man. Once again, match quality has potential to be great, and Umaga would probably go over.

I really want an Umaga Title reign, but I only see one or two title changes before WM, and Umaga probably shouldn't go in as Champion. So I'm hoping he will win the Title in about ten months time.

Anyway, what do you think Umaga will do in the next three or so months?

 

[Evil Austin]

I would like to see him on smackdown but if that happens I see that he will only be in the tag team division or at most the US division because there is no faces as of now that we have not seen vs Umaga on Smackdown Ie Batista and that can have a real feud with .. with Batista possible move to raw and fight with HBK that leaves Edge alone ... If Umaga is the only main event level guy to Smackdown which I probably see Jericho and MVP moving the titles over... but anyway I see Umaga not being in the title run for a while because Edge vs Umaga will not attract much audience...

 

[Qwake]

Umaga is kind of trapped on RAW with nothing to do which is a real big waste of talent, he should be either drafted to SD or ECW. Him on Smackdown would open up alot of possible fueds but on ECW he would be able to put of alot of young talent (them being the underdogs).

If Umaga was to go to Smackdown he could fued with Finlay, Edge, MVP, and Big show(if he still on SD). If Umaga went to ECW he could put over CM Punk, Kofi Kingston, Matt Sydal, Colin DelaneyP), and even heels like Chavo and Benjamen.

Umaga could be a real big help to the WWE's ratings if they used him the right way but Vince just wants his million dollar thing to make the ratings better . Umaga is def the best big guy in all of the WWE so I would like to see him in good fueds maybe even for the title

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

I would like to see him on smackdown but if that happens I see that he will only be in the tag team division or at most the US division because there is no faces as of now that we have not seen vs Umaga on Smackdown Ie Batista and that can have a real feud with

Are you kidding me? Is Finlay not a face? Or Rey Mysterio (when he returns)? And as far as the US/Tag Team Division, you clearly don't appreciate the talents of the big man. He is the best big man in the business.

If Umaga is the only main event level guy to Smackdown which I probably see Jericho and MVP moving the titles over...

Um, Matt Hardy has been the US Champion for a few months now.

but anyway I see Umaga not being in the title run for a while because Edge vs Umaga will not attract much audience...

That's right, as I said, heel vs heel main event feud wouldn't work.

 

[Airfixx]

I'd rather have seen him lock up with Taker over the WHC, but maybe ECW title isn't a bad way to push Umaga (Dare I say have him beat Kane?)... Only downside is then he'd be a semi-Raw guy again due to the Raw/ECW partnership about to ensue and I don't wanna see yet more Jeff V Umaga. He needs fresh matches to remind the fans just how good he is.

 

[MikeRaw]

Umaga, like so many others, has main event material, but on Raw, doesnt get a chance there because of the writers. On smackdown, I think he will really shine... ECW would ruin his credibility, so he better not go there, but Smackdown could be good... A feud with Matt hardy would be good, and then Rey Mysterio, and eventually Batista for the world title (at some point, Batista will have it)
I definately see this guy becoming a World Champion, and I hope its on Smackdown, so he can have proper exposure...

 

[Airfixx]

Why do you think ECW would ruin his credability?

A stint on ECW hasn't harmed Kane or Big Show and they are somewhat from the same mould (i.e CREDIBLE monsters)...

 

[MikeRaw]

Why do you think ECW would ruin his credability?

A stint on ECW hasn't harmed Kane or Big Show and they are somewhat from the same mould (i.e CREDIBLE monsters)...

It would stop him from being a main eventer... Your right, Kane and Big Show are still fan favorites, and still get over, and are still credible... But Umaga hasnt had a world title run yet, and IMO, hes a capable WHC on SD, but going to ECW obviously prevents that from happening, and there are way more oppurtunities for him on Smackdown... On ECW, Kane and Show are there, mostly to pu tothers over (not always by losing, but put them over in a good feud) but UUmaga obviously isnt at that stage in his career. He is a WHC material guy, and there's alot more chances for him on SD than on ECW, or even Raw for that matter.

 

[Airfixx]

^^^IMO, ECW > Raw for Umaga.

SD would be great (and what I'd CHOOSE to see IF they are gonna push him), but depending on the draft he may be 3rd or 4th in line for the coveted push which would see him playing a bit-part for another 18months or so.

Maybe the gradual rise to a 'REAL' world title (i.e. via ECW title onto WHC), in the long-run may be a quicker route than just sitting in the wings waiting for your 'time'. An ECW reign would provide him with a lot more TV time than another year+ chasing mid-card titles whilst waiting for his push (Thus continuing to build momentum.). Especially if they book him strongly... He can regain his monsterous demeanour without having to steamroll all the supa-supa-supa stars on the A & B shows which obviously WWE would be reluctant to do.

More specifically tho, I'm still not sure why you think ECW would ruin his cred....

 

[Marvel26]

He should definitely go to SD! I don't really want to see another Hardy.Umaga match in the near future! He needs to be involved in fresher feuds, like others have said, Finlay, Punk, even Big Show and Kane!

I think Umaga should have been made champion when he went up against Cena! That would have been his time to shine!

I think he would fit perfectly onto ECW and I think he is the perfect contender for the ECW Championship!

 

[MikeRaw]

More specifically tho, I'm still not sure why you think ECW would ruin his cred....

if you read my post, you would.
But really its not too hard to get, its quite simple... ECW is the third brand. I said that IMO Umaga is a top guy here, and after the draft I want him to be able to show that off... So showing off and dominating on ECW means nothing... reall,y so many guys dominate there, but that doesnt make them WHC worthy... ECW is to start off your career (or put others over, like Show and Kane) and Umaga has already paid his dues as a midcarder, and now its time for the main event for him.. And IMO, the only place he can main event (other than ecw) is Smackdown, and theres a hell of alot of good feuds for him. He's not a third brand guy...

 

[Airfixx]

if you read my post, you would.

Don't get stroppy... Of course I read the damn post.

But really its not too hard to get, its quite simple... ECW is the third brand. I said that IMO Umaga is a top guy here,

He's got the POTENTIAL to be a top guy (depending on your individual opinion, more than most), but If he WAS a top guy he'd be wrestling MEs right now.

and after the draft I want him to be able to show that off...

Me too. I'm a big fan.

So showing off and dominating on ECW means nothing...

It would be "showing off" if he'd been crushing all the bigger stars for the last year or so and THEN hopped over to ECW to dominate, but check his win/lost for the last 12 months+... It's a very different story.

really so many guys dominate there, but that doesnt make them WHC worthy...

I'm not talking week after week or squash matches... The top guys on ECW could be plausibly booked to give him a good match. Booking "strong" doesn't have to equate to 10second pinfalls every week.

ECW is to start off your career (or put others over, like Show and Kane)

Your rules or VKMs?

and Umaga has already paid his dues as a midcarder, and now its time for the main event for him..

I don't dissagree, but whether or not this will happen right now (for reasons already touched upon in my last post) is another story. Hence I think this would be good for him in the meantime.

And IMO, the only place he can main event (other than ecw) is Smackdown

So you're not ENTIRELY 'closed' to the idea then? ;o]

...He's not a third brand guy...

I fear it's you that's not reading, or at least absorbing, my posts, cos I took time to explain why it COULD work for him on ECW... All you've done is rehash your previous post stating obvious stuff about it being the 3rd show etc, sporting a 1 dimensional view of how the dynamics of each show, and it's placing within the WWE, can work.

 

[MikeRaw]

Don't get stroppy... Of course I read the damn post.

He's got the POTENTIAL to be a top guy (depending on your individual opinion, more than most), but If he WAS a top guy he'd be wrestling MEs right now.

Me too. I'm a big fan.

It would be "showing off" if he'd been crushing all the bigger stars for the last year or so and THEN hopped over to ECW to dominate, but check his win/lost for the last 12 months+... It's a very different story.

I'm not talking week after week or squash matches... The top guys on ECW could be plausibly booked to give him a good match. Booking "strong" doesn't have to equate to 10second pinfalls every week.

Your rules or VKMs?

I don't dissagree, but whether or not this will happen right now (for reasons already touched upon in my last post) is another story. Hence I think this would be good for him in the meantime.

So you're not ENTIRELY 'closed' to the idea then? ;o]

I fear it's you that's not reading, or at least absorbing, my posts, cos I took time to explain why it COULD work for him on ECW... All you've done is rehash your previous post stating obvious stuff about it being the 3rd show etc, sporting a 1 dimensional view of how the dynamics of each show, and it's placing within the WWE, can work.

This could go on for hours, lol... But I dont think many people would want Umaga to go to ECW.
And yo useem to think I was referring to squash matches when I said dominate... Thats not what I meant, dominating doesnt always have to mean squashingpeople... By dominating, I just mean that, if he goes to ECW, and becomes ECW champion, wins alot of feuds, and is built as the top guy on that brand, what does that prove?
John Morrison has also dominated on ECW, but that doesnt make him a main eventer... chavo guerrero and Kane were also on the top of ECW, but that doesn't make them a top guy in WWE. So what Im saying is, putting him on ECW, is counterproductive... Because, I think we can all agree Umaga can be a main eventer... Not like a HHH or Cena, but he can be a good heel in the main event. But on ECW, its taking a step back, because he wont get much exposure there (its the lowest rated of wwe's three shows), he wont be taken as seriously, and really, the ECW title is basically a midcard title, due to who has held it, and the lack of competition for it... So that wouldnt showcase him on ECW, and he wont still be viewed as int he main event, so its counter-productive, whereas on Smackdown, the writers give everyone chances to shine, they have alot of athletic guys who can pu ton good matches, and theres some open main event spots...

Anyways, I am willing to bet we will continue to disagree on this, but that doesnt matter... You've been making some good posts man, keep it up

 

[J]

Why do you think ECW would ruin his credability?

A stint on ECW hasn't harmed Kane or Big Show and they are somewhat from the same mould (i.e CREDIBLE monsters)...

I completely agree...I think that ECW would be the perfect place for Umaga...He kinda fits the mold of wrestlers on ECW like Kane and such...The only thing that is gunna help Umaga though is to stop sticking him in squash matches...and build him up some credibility...