Heyman speaks on underused Wrestlers.

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5. Tito Ortiz: "Tito is finishing up his UFC contract this weekend. What does he do next? Wear out his name in MMA, or capitalize on his love for pro wrestling and exploit his larger than life personality by joining WWE or TNA? And remember, where Tito goes, so goes Jenna Jameson, the best self-promoter in show business today. "

4. Beth Phoenix: "It doesn't matter that she's already been WWE women’s champion, the audience hasn't even had a taste of what this phenomenal athlete is capable of."

3. James Mitchell: "The best backstage promo artist in the business, bar none. A brilliant spokesman who can articulate the merits of the opponent without selling his own act short."

2. The entire TNA roster: "No long term concepts + bad television writing + zero marketing strategy = hard working talents whose efforts are wasted on a show that has not grown the audience whatsoever despite the tens of millions of dollars sunken into it."

1. Randy Orton: "When does Orton get to make you hate him so badly, you're willing to pay to see him get beat, or at least beaten up?"


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Well, i agree with the james Mitchell part...
But how is Orton uinderutilized when hes had 3 world title reigns at only 26 years old? And hes been in the main event non stop now, so I dont agree with that. I know hes going to be a legend eventually (most likely) but I think hes at his potential right now, and not underutilized at all..

And lmao, somehow I can picture Tito Ortiz in WWE, damn.
 

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Yes very funny imagining Tito facing HHH for the WWE title...If I had to make a list of most underutilized though it would probably look like this...
5) AJ Styles-The guy is still the most over in TNA & he wears a freaking crown!
4) James Mitchell-Heyman is right on the money with this guy...
3) Petey Williams-Canadian Destroyer/Little Petey Pump...Nuff' Said
2) Shelton Benjamin-If it was all about in ring he'd be 1 by a landslide
1) Elijah Burke-It's a disgrace what WWE has done to him the guy is gold on the mic & one of the most talented in ring...this guy should be headlining Wrestlemania not in pre show battle royals...
 

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Did you just say Elijah Burke should be headlining Wrestlemania?

I'm speechless..

My top 5 most underutilised would be:

5) The Great Khali (He can wrestle, giant statue gimmick isn't winning anyone over. Just gives fuel to the detractors who say he can't)
4) Kane (On ECW when he should be fighting for World Championships. Has never been given a proper World Title push his whole career, yet is one of the most reliable and popular wrestlers in the WWE)
3) Katie Lea Burchill (Most excited I've ever been about a female wrestler whilst watching her in OVW, shouldn't be a valet)
2) Paul Burchill (Fantastic talent, high flyer on par with The Hardyz, yet is used in squash matches)
1) Carlito (Was fighting for World Championships two years ago, now is stuck in a boring tag team feud and wrestles dark matches on Raw. No wonder he asked for a release in December)
 

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I agree with Hometown Kid's list of wrestlers who are under-rated/used in fucked up ways. People underestimate Randy Orton as a wrestler too, a lot of people say he does nothing but rest-holds (which is some what true) but he can put on good matches which IWCers don't give him credit for.


1) Carlito (Was fighting for World Championships two years ago, now is stuck in a boring tag team feud and wrestles dark matches on Raw. No wonder he asked for a release in December)

Are you for real? Car-Fucking-Lito? He is the least motivated superstar in the WWE locker room, that's why he isn't getting pushed like he was 2-3 years ago because he lost all his passion and puts on sloppy matches..
 

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Pretty much agree with all names said aside from Petey Williams. I like him, but he seriously needs to ditch that finisher.
 

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Well, i agree with the james Mitchell part...
But how is Orton uinderutilized when hes had 3 world title reigns at only 26 years old? And hes been in the main event non stop now, so I dont agree with that. I know hes going to be a legend eventually (most likely) but I think hes at his potential right now, and not underutilized at all..

It doesn't matter how many titles Orton has been given. I agree with Heyman. Orton is underutilized. Given his ability, he has the potential to be much bigger than he is right now.

His last reign was very good, but he was not put into the spotlight enough. He played second fiddle to the face challenger the whole time (which usually happens I guess).

I like Orton's character right now, but if they are going to make him into a psycho, make him psychotic. Punting people in the head is not enough. He was way more badass when he played the chickenshit against Taker than he is now.

At times, it almost seems like they are protecting him too much and protecting him from failure. They have invested a ton in him and want him to succeed, but they are afraid he will blow. Its about time for the WWE to let him sink or swim.

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Also, I agree with someones comments on Burchill.
 

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Pretty much agree with all names said aside from Petey Williams. I like him, but he seriously needs to ditch that finisher.

How? The Canadian Destroyer is the best finisher in Pro Wrestling, its fuckin awesome. And the TNA roster thing is a joke, Samoa Joe is a star now because of TNA, he is the face of the company, how is he not being used? I think pretty much everyone on the TNA roster is being used correctly, aside from Elix Skipper..the poor guy is still a jobber :cry:

As for Orton, I disagree again, Randy Orton's had his run as WWE Champion and he is an established main eventer. I agree with everything else he said but the TNA Roster and Randy Orton statements really dont make much sense to me
 

MikeRaw

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It doesn't matter how many titles Orton has been given. I agree with Heyman. Orton is underutilized. Given his ability, he has the potential to be much bigger than he is right now.

His last reign was very good, but he was not put into the spotlight enough. He played second fiddle to the face challenger the whole time (which usually happens I guess).

I like Orton's character right now, but if they are going to make him into a psycho, make him psychotic. Punting people in the head is not enough. He was way more badass when he played the chickenshit against Taker than he is now.

At times, it almost seems like they are protecting him too much and protecting him from failure. They have invested a ton in him and want him to succeed, but they are afraid he will blow. Its about time for the WWE to let him sink or swim.

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Also, I agree with someones comments on Burchill.

I do agree with what you mean about him being underutilized now that you mentioned it.
However, I dont agree with the chicken shit part being better for him, or more badass.
IMO, its hard to take a champion seriously when hes being a chicken, and the thing where he was a pussy was good when he was making a name, and he was the cocky heel character, but with that, it was just another generic cocky heel. Right now, hes a heel with a good gimmick because for a change its nott just the cocky, full of himself guy. And it also makes him more credible as a wrestler, cause hes not running from the people, lol.
 

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I think pretty much everyone on the TNA roster is being used correctly, aside from Elix Skipper..the poor guy is still a jobber :cry:

Yeah coming out in crowns, completely copying off of retired/terrible wrestlers,& a soap opera love triangle...yeah pretty much everyone is utilized correctly...
 

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How? The Canadian Destroyer is the best finisher in Pro Wrestling, its fuckin awesome.

I agree it's an awesome move, but some people hate it because it looks like something you'd find in a video game.
 

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Yeah coming out in crowns, completely copying off of retired/terrible wrestlers,& a soap opera love triangle...yeah pretty much everyone is utilized correctly...

LOL, your complaining about his crown? How exactly is that bad...but more importantly, why does it even bother you? And as for the retired/terrible wrestlers thing, Shark Boy and Jay Lethal would not be as over as they are today without those gimmicks, so you may not like them but if it wasn't for those gimmicks, maybe Sharkboy and Lethal would be jobbers right now. The only gimmick that I guess you can complain about is Petey Williams' gimmick because he is basically copying Scott Steiner...but thats it. As for the soap opera love triangle, again..whats wrong with it? It is going to lead to 2 very good matches, Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles (Karen, AJ, Angle) and Lethal vs Sonjay (Lethal, Sonjay, So Cal Val).

And yes, everyone is being utilized correctly. Everyone who is over is in the upper midcard/main event, and everyone who isn't is a mid carder/jobber. Also, look at who the 4 TNA Champions are, Samoa Joe is the World Champ, LAX are the tag champs, Petey is the X champ, and Kong is the Knockout champ, all 4 of those wrestlers are awesome and deserve to be champions, especially Samoa Joe
 

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I'm sick of everyone hating on the Canadian Destroyer. It's impressive as hell, and in kayfabe terms it's the most lethal piledriver there is. Yet i've seen people whine that it's fake (because, you know, wrestling is real), because the receiver has to put work into it (because there are no moves in which the receiver has to put work into it), and i've even had people tell me that it's not dangerous. So I tell them to go try it, and when they kill their friend instantly i'll fly over and piss on the casket as it's being lowered. If you want to complain about the Canadian Destroyer, you should also say the Tombstone Piledriver sucks because it looks an awful lot like standing homosexual 69, that all powerbombs suck because the opponent is on the wrestler's shoulders and it looks like he's being sucked off, Hurricanranas and Frankensteiners are fake because the opponent does like all the work in moving himself, any kind of Chokeslam is fake because the opponent jumps and lifts himself by grabbing the opponent's arm, Ric Flair's figure four is fake because he just holds the foot with one hand and dances around for like 15 seconds while the opponent acts like all he can do is plead him not to continue, the delayed verticle suplex is fake because the opponent has to do most of the work in keeping himself verticle and that in reality he could drop right down to his feet, and that the following moves are painless or at least feathertouch enough to be fake: Pedigree, F5, 619, Warrior Splash and any other Big Splash done by someone weighing less than 300 pounds, Atomic Leg Drop, and any kind of Cutter because the impact is invariably taken to the opponent's soft arm and thus no contact is made between face and mat.
 

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Petey Williams is only known for the Canadian Destroyer, nothing else. Not as a worker, not as a high flyer. Nothing else. His character now sucks and he's sucked ever since they broke up Team Canada.

Umaga is my number one. Unbelievably good athlete, just a bad gimmick. We all know he's a powerhouse and can take nuff bumps. If he could do a promo in english, I wouldn't be surprised he's in the main event again.
 

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As for Orton, I disagree again, Randy Orton's had his run as WWE Champion and he is an established main eventer. I agree with everything else he said but the TNA Roster and Randy Orton statements really dont make much sense to me

He's not saying that Orton is underutalized as far as title reigns are concerned. He's saying they should be doing more with his character and I agree. He should be doing more extreme heel like things to really really make the people hate him. Sure he's a great heel and people hate him, but he's saying he should be doing more shit to make people DESPISE him. I very much agree with Heyman on this point. Orton could do more, they just need to let him do it.
 

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I do agree with what you mean about him being underutilized now that you mentioned it.
However, I dont agree with the chicken shit part being better for him, or more badass.
IMO, its hard to take a champion seriously when hes being a chicken, and the thing where he was a pussy was good when he was making a name, and he was the cocky heel character, but with that, it was just another generic cocky heel. Right now, hes a heel with a good gimmick because for a change its nott just the cocky, full of himself guy. And it also makes him more credible as a wrestler, cause hes not running from the people, lol.

I agree with this and I think that you misunderstood me.

I wasn;t saying he should go back to being a pussy. I like his current character. They just have not taken it far enough. Back when he was the chickenshit, he was burning Taker in a coffin, running over people with cars and saying beloved wrestlers were in hell. Now, all he does is make promises and punt people in the head. I know they are still hungover from the Benoit incident, but Orton needs to seriously try to kill someone, while not backing down and not acting scared.