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Los Angeles Lakers fire Frank Vogel after disappointing 33-49 season, plan 'methodical' search for new HC​

ESPN

The Los Angeles Lakers fired Frank Vogel on Monday, choosing their title-winning head coach to take the fall for one of the most disappointing seasons in NBA history.

Vogel was under contract through next season, but almost nothing has gone right over the past two seasons for the rosters assembled by vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka and coached by Vogel, who went 127-98 in his three seasons running the club.

Pelinka declined to elaborate Monday on why he and owner Jeanie Buss felt Vogel needed to be fired.

"Today is not going to be a day of finger-pointing and unwinding all the specific reasons,'' Pelinka said. "We just felt organizationally, at the highest level, it was time for a new voice. ... That's not to say anything against the incredible accomplishments that Frank Vogel has had. He was a great coach here, and he's going to go on to be a great coach somewhere else.''

Pelinka doesn't plan to replace Vogel immediately, and he said he hasn't even assembled a list of potential candidates. The GM said it "would be great'' to have a coach in place before the draft in June, but that the Lakers' search will be "thorough and methodical.''

The Lakers have not dismissed any of Vogel's coaching staff at this time, league sources told ESPN's Dave McMenamin.

The Lakers finished the 2021-22 season with a 33-49 record, failing to qualify for the play-in tournament.

"This was a disappointing Lakers season at every level,'' Pelinka said. "In the face of disappointment, our fans expect more, and that's in every facet. It starts in the front office led by me, and our ability to construct the right roster. It starts with the coaches holding players accountable and making sure there's on-court execution.''

Continuity was a constant challenge for Vogel and the Lakers this season, as they had to contend with injuries to stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis and a roster construction with challenges that included limited shooting and athleticism.

James spoke to the media Monday morning before Vogel's fate was revealed by the Lakers' front office.

"I respect Frank as a coach, as a man,'' James said. "Our partnership that we've had over the few years here has been nothing but candid, and great conversations. This is a guy that gives everything to the game and prepared us every single night. ... I don't know what's going to happen with Frank being here, but I've got nothing but respect for him.''

Los Angeles was the only team to not have a single five-man lineup play 100 minutes together, according to ESPN Stats & Information research. Despite entering the season with high expectations, the Lakers were only able to have James, Davis and Russell Westbrook on the floor together for 21 games. They went 11-10 in those contests.

The Lakers finished the season in the bottom 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency, ranking 21st in defensive rating after finishing first in 2020-21 and third in 2019-20.

L.A. lost 18 of 24 games following the All-Star break, with only the Portland Trail Blazers, Houston Rockets and Indiana Pacers finishing with worse records during that span.

Vogel was hired in May 2019 to assemble a cohesive team around James and Davis, who was officially acquired from the New Orleans Pelicans two months later. Vogel's plans worked right away: His first team weathered the NBA's COVID-19 shutdown and then won the Lakers' 17th NBA championship in the Orlando bubble.

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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What a stupid decision for the organization to get rid of Vogel. Let it be a reminder that he coached the team a NBA title, for the first time in a decade, two seasons ago. Vogel will get another opportunity to coach elsewhere in the league.
 
Apoho Creed

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Nimrod said:

Los Angeles Lakers fire Frank Vogel after disappointing 33-49 season, plan 'methodical' search for new HC​



What a stupid decision for the organization to get rid of Vogel. Let it be a reminder that he coached the team a NBA title, for the first time in a decade, two seasons ago. Vogel will get another opportunity to coach elsewhere in the league.
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Yeah he's the Scapegoat when they should be looking at Lebron. He wanted this guys on this Team forgetting they are not young like Spring time anymore and Vogel was the only guy they could of let go in the situation.
 

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Kairi HoHo said:
Yeah he's the Scapegoat when they should be looking at Lebron. He wanted this guys on this Team forgetting they are not young like Spring time anymore and Vogel was the only guy they could of let go in the situation.
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And yet, the team went 33-49 and lost his job. The Lakers should have gone after younger talent or somebody worth a damn. They got Russ but he's prone to injury just like AD and it backfired on the team. The bright side though, is that we don't have to see LeBron in the playoffs. Fuck him.
 
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Nimrod said:
And yet, the team went 33-49 and lost his job. The Lakers should have gone after younger talent or somebody worth a damn. They got Russ but he's prone to injury just like AD and it backfired on the team. The bright side though, is that we don't have to see LeBron in the playoffs. Fuck him.
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I read on realgm an article that Russ is a worse fit personality wise than basketball wise. The Lakers tried to trade him to Charlotte for Terry Rozier and Gordon Hayward and when it didn't work they turned and fired Vogel. Not fair he is not the GM or has a hand in building the team. LeBron built that team and look what it got him and yet his old team Cleveland is in the playoffs now.
 
Apoho Creed

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Yeah I'll let Grim have his fun he deserves it. Now Pat Bev you need to stop jumping around after the Game as if you won the Chip already. :lol
 
Chris

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It's two different sports are y'all really gonna have this semantics arguments lol MLB clearly recognizes wild cards as playoffs, I don't think the NBA has specified if the play in is separate or not
 
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