Rate Raw 12/11/2017

  • Welcome to "The New" Wrestling Smarks Forum!

    I see that you are not currently registered on our forum. It only takes a second, and you can even login with your Facebook! If you would like to register now, pease click here: Register

    Once registered please introduce yourself in our introduction thread which can be found here: Introduction Board


Rate Raw

  • 0/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 1/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 4/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 7/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 8/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 9/10

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
59,601
Reaction score
12,753
Points
118
Rate Raw and leave some comments to let us know what you thought of the show.

Opening

Samoa Joe was in the ring and he told everyone he was not impressed with the Shield. He then called out Roman Reigns. Ambrose and Rollins were watching the show and Ambrose told Rollins to go get Roman. Joe then continued to insult the Shield and said he didn't need anyone and Roman needed the Shield. Roman Reigns came out and was beating on Joe before the Bar came in and Joe put Roman in the rear naked choke. The Shield came out to help Roman and they made some headway but Joe and the Bar took them down.

Sasha Banks, Mickie James and Bayley vs Absolution

Absolution won by pin fall.

Matt Hardy/Bray Wyatt Promo

This was just another back and forth between the two mentioning things that make no sense as usual.

Backstage

Enzo was approached yet again by Nia Jax who asked him how he was doing and she left. He was then approached by Drew Gulak who told him Rich Swann was disqualified and there would now be a new fatal fourway to replace him in the number one contender match. Enzo mentioned a lot of men he could beat and included Nia Jax in it. Gulak was confused and assumed it was a lesson Enzo was teaching him to be ready for anyone, even Nia.

Finn Balor vs Curtis Axel


Axel came out with Bo Dallas and was wearing a neck brace. He took it off though. He and Bo attacked Balor before the match.

Finn Balor won by pin fall.

Sheamus vs Seth Rollins

Seth Rollins won by pin fall.

Fatal Fourway Second Chance: Cedric Alexander vs Tony Niese vs Mustafa Ali vs Ariya Daivari


Winner of this match will face Drew Gulak next week for the number one contender spot for the cruiserweight title.

Cedric Alexander won the match and will face Drew Gulak for the contender spot.


Intercontinental Championship Match: Champion Roman Reigns vs Cesaro


Roman Reigns won by pin fall.

Asuka vs Alicia Fox

Absolution came out instead of Fox. Fox was hurt and they showed it on the Titantron. Paige then told Asuka they respected her but not even she could stop Absolution. They told her to move out of the way or they would make her move out of the way. Asuka didn't move and they attacked Asuka, who took all three out initially. However, they were able to get the drop on her. But as the three were beating Asuka, the ENTIRE Raw women's roster came out and took revenge on Absolution. who fled after getting beat up.

Backstage

Kurt Angle reinforced the ring. Jason Jordan then came in to talk to him. He asked again for a match with Samoa Joe but Angle told him he couldn't until Kurt was ready to put him in the match. He told Jordan he always "held his own" with big stars but did not beat them. Jordan got angry, called him "Kurt" and left.

Dean Ambrose vs Samoa Joe


Jordan came out to the ramp and watched the match. He interfered in the match and caused the ref to be distracted while Ambrose had Joe pinned. Both man attacked Jordan and Joe won by submission.

Braun Strowman vs Kane


The match ended in a double countout but the two brawled after. The brawl ended when Braun bodyslammed Kane through a table.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Grievous 3D

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
59,601
Reaction score
12,753
Points
118
I am giving it a 6. I was a bit disappointed by the ending to the main event. But the brawling afterward was pretty good.

I can't say there was anything that really jumped out at me really. It was sort of a filler Raw I guess, but not bad.
 

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
41
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Okay RAW...let's have a look at you...

~ SKIP ALL THIS OPENING SHIT!!!

~ Okay...Paige needs to drop the red lipstick...it makes her look like
a gothic whore who has made out with the Joker.

Look...here is Paige without the red lipstick...

Paige1.jpg


See how much better she looks without it.

~ And Analution...sorry...I mean Absolution get another win...and I'm
bored of them already. Well done WWE...

~ Okay WWE...you can't just have Bray & Matt exchange meaningless
bullshit every week. Do something interesting with it please.

~ I see Enzo...I SKIP!!! And I'm sure the Enzo/Nia storyline/relationship
will have me crying tears of blood by the end of it.

~ Yeah...that Summerslam injury basically killed Finn's WWE career.

He should go back to NJPW...as should Gallows & Anderson.

~ Either way you slice it...Lesnar vs. Strowman or Kane at the Rumble
would be bullshit. Either Lesnar throws around a guy who should be
retired or Strowman gets defeated again.

Its Bullshit!

~ Good to see Seth get a win...

~ Cruiserweights...SKIP!!!

~ FUCKING SKIP!!!

~ Okay...I would normally give my thoughts on the women's division...but...
like I've said...I'm bored of Analution already & I just want them to put the belt
on Asuka already...so...SKIP!!!

Oh...and speaking of the Women's division...Alexa Bliss has not wrestled
since Survivor Series...just saying.

~ Jason Jordan is a fucking loser & he can piss off!

~ Its good to see Joe getting a win...

~ Oh God...all I can think of when I see Dana with Titus & Apollo is all
those scenes on Brazzers where two large black men turn a thicc, busty
blonde in a Chinese finger trap for their genitals.

Yes...I'm a pervert...deal with it.

~ And Braun vs. Kane goes to double count-out...Ugh...I don't care.

And I'm done...

I'm going to go look at some Tracer hentai...

because I can.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Firewall

alexb

The Lunatic Fringe
Joined
Mar 4, 2014
Messages
628
Reaction score
678
Points
0
Age
47
It's been a while and plenty have happened since I last posted anything so without derailing or going completely off topic, some thoughts - oh, gave this particular show a 5/10:

- I understand that RAW don't have any exclusive PPV for a while and I also understand them wanting to buy some time until at least the Rumble but for the Woman's Championship to not being featured or even mentioned kind of bothers me; as if it wasn't enough already that we have to deal with a similar situation with the Universal Championship...

- While on the woman's division subject, a lot of things I did not like tonight. For one, why the fuck is Asuka taking a beat down? The say I see it, she should absolutely NOT be in such a situation already. Number two, why is Nia Jax running down for the save along the "faces" and, for that matter, why is Bliss doing the same? Since when did Bliss become buddies with Banks, Bailey and co? And in regards to Nia Jax, if the idea is to have this storyline with Enzo as an excuse to temporariy have her occupied elsewhere and way from the title scene or the Absolution bullshit, I see no sense in her coming out for the save alongside the other girls. She should have been in some hotel room with Enzo or some shit...

- The Rich Swan situation really sucks and it's too bad cause he was a really talented guy but, hey, if what he's accused of is true, well, can't say I feel sorry for him....

- Yeeeeeeeeeeeees :matt2:
At long last and this ought to be a lot of fun, more so with Bray on the other side. They could easily drag this till Wrestlemania of they want to and I personally wouldn't mind one bit.

- So either Kane or Strowman at the Rumble for Lesnar. Sigh...

Haven't ready any news after RAW last night but after the way they ended the main event last night, a Triple Threat at the Rumble would not surprise me, given how WWE love them multi-person matches plus they kept mentioning the fact that Kane has never faced Brock. On the other hand, if they want to continue this Strowman/Kane feud, which I'm sure they will, I can almost bet they will face off in a last man standing match or a no dq in the upcoming weeks.

- Cesaro was BY FAR the man of the night; what a match he had with Roman Reigns...

- Speaking of Roman Reigns, talk about another belt being "hijacked". I've already heard some talk about Roman holding on to the IC title till Mania, the idea being of having a title vs. title match in somewhat recreating the Hogan vs. Warrior situtaion from Wrestlemania 6. That's just bogus in my view and so unecessary, not to mention that in this case, it would leave the entire unsercard hanging. What is everybody else supposed to be fighting for till then? The Samoe Joes, the Balors, the Hard's and Wyatts? Just my two cents...

And by the way, did Roman say he's the best in ring performer in world today?? hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha :booker2:

Tell me.....:booker:......tell me he didn't just say that......He did huh? Well :finger:

- That spanish fly thing Mustafa Ali does is probably one of the sickest moves nowadays in WWE...

- Based on last night, I can easily see Drew Gulak going over Cedric Alexander next week, face Enzo, turn face and win the championship....I know his character works better as a heel but, hey, why not?

- I called at least two months ago, will say it again, Nakamura is your winner of the 2018 Royal Rumble...It just has to be....
 

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
41
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
For one, why the fuck is Asuka taking a beat down? The say I see it, she should absolutely NOT be in such a situation already.
Because the creative team don't really know what to do with her
& they can't wait for her to be defeated so they can book her like
every other women on the roster.

I've been reading rumors that Ronda Rousey will be feuding
with Asuka and possibly having that Wrestlemania match...
which sounds like a good idea...but then you realize that
letting Ronda be the first woman to defeat Asuka in the
WWE would be complete & utter bullshit.

Number two, why is Nia Jax running down for the save along the "faces" and, for that matter, why is Bliss doing the same?
Exactly my thoughts on the situation...surely Alexa would be
happy for Absolution to kick the shit out of everyone else
while she sits around NOT WRESTLING & making the
title nothing more than a fancy fashion accessory...and Nia...
well...who really cares at this point?

She's been completely mishandled since she was drafted
to the main roster & this simply continues the pattern.

Surely it would have more more sense for Nia & Alexa to
side with Absolution that way you can divide the women's
roster and give it some balance?

Faces:
Alicia Fox (?)
Asuka
Bayley
Dana Brooke (?)
Mickie
Sasha

Heels:
Alexa
Mandy Rose
Nia Jax
Paige
Sonya Deville

I mean who really knows what any of the women are doing
at the moment? Well...apart from Mandy & Sonya being
Paige's bitches.

But then I'm just some 35 year old pervoid from Australia...
what do I know?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: alexb

The Gipper

The Gipper
Joined
Jan 10, 2014
Messages
17,103
Reaction score
6,393
Points
113
Age
23
I've been reading rumors that Ronda Rousey will be feuding
with Asuka and possibly having that Wrestlemania match...
which sounds like a good idea...but then you realize that
letting Ronda be the first woman to defeat Asuka in the
WWE would be complete & utter bullshit.
Taker/Lesnar anyone?
 

Crimson

New Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2013
Messages
492
Reaction score
148
Points
1
Both Strowman and Kane lost their chance last night to be Brock Lesnar's opponent at the Royal Rumble last night.

I see what WWE was trying to do last night and I think that there's gonna be a Battle Royal, something like that to see who's going to be Brock's opponent. Rollins had an amazing match with Sheamus and got praised kinda too much by Michael Cole.

I hope the rumors are true & Seth Rollins faces Brock Lesnar at the Royal Rumble.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Grievous 3D

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
41
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Taker/Lesnar anyone?
Yep...it could happen all over again Reag...
and for me personally it would be even
worse considering how invested I am in
the women's division.

I hope the rumors are true & Seth Rollins faces Brock Lesnar at the Royal Rumble.
Rollins vs. Lesnar would be so much better than Lesnar
facing "Old Man Kane" or defeating Strowman again.

Plus Seth was part of that amazing triple threat match
at the Rumble in 2015. You know...that Rumble event
where the Philadelphia crowd called the WWE out on
their bullshit booking.

Remember that one?

I do...I remember it every time I read "that Guy I don't
mention by Name" is supposedly getting cheered...
and I laugh.

You know the more I think about it...the more I feel the
WWE completely dropped the ball by not putting the belt
on Strowman at Summerslam.

They could have waved goodbye to Lesnar and built up
the "Final Epic Confrontation after a Year of Violence"
between Strowman & "that Guy I don't mention by Name"

Ugh...

Honestly...Strowman was the hottest thing they had going
for a large part of this year...but that had to come to an end...
because we have to put the focus on the "future face of the
company"

And the reason why he was the hottest thing in the company?

Because the fans were happy to see him beating the shit out
of "Vince's Chosen One"

Yeah...I'm sorry...but Strowman hit a wall at No Mercy and
in my opinion hasn't been the same since.

Hey WWE...have you ever thought about giving the fans
what they actually want instead of trying to convince the
fans what they should want?

I mean the fans wanted Stone Cold & The Rock back in the
day and you had no problem with giving them to the fans....
so why can't you do that with your audience in 2017/2018?

Can someone here answer that for me?