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  1. SAIYANS

    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    I wouldn't have minded a triple threat with O Punk. He would look better beating someone and then them thinning the feud out. Hell they could've massively written Cena out by simply letting them finish him in some fashion and one of them pick the bones. Cena leaves to heal for 2 months, you get...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Yeah he's improved his physique massively. I just think he needs to have the hype machine talk him up And channel his inner Finlay in a ring. Work up the ladder rung by rung beating guys convincingly with his wrestling skill and tenacity. He shows in flashes this intensity but they waited too...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Oh I think they can save or salvage Bryan, not punk. He's a 6x champ and they exhausted options. With Bryan it's just like with a sandow. Move him away from the picture, let him crime legit: don't randomly have him beating the Wyatt Family. Lead up to it, make him work for it, and then destroy...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    But thing is Rey's first reign was like Christians a handout. I mean he also got beat by guys bigger than him, it was true his whole wwe start when he first started moving to heavyweights. Khali, show, Brock, Cena etc all man handled him. They never tried to act like he could go from struggling...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    You want to see little beat big? Check Rey. He's been built as the ultimate under dog his wwe career because they gradually had him move from CW guys and face and beat heavyweights. They went from there and then moved on to him being a world champ who can legit beat anyone on the roster clean. A...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    I would have has no issue at a b ppv or even if they just invested more in Bryan. He didn't beat a clock, didn't win a tourney, and his one on one matches weren't of the make him legit variety. He should've been beating guys ass from the time they split and I don't mean in 6 man tag after a hot...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    The difference between Eddie and Benoit compared to Bryan and Punk is physique and legitimacy. They had the better physiques, no matter how you slice it. There are plenty of guys who've never failed a wellness test that look and stay in better shape than Bryan or Punk. And as far as...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Even if we never heard anything about his sexual preference, I'd still say they've spent more time on commentary planting seeds Titus is the ass kicker and power of the tandem. Hell Titus got the job because Dave vouched for him and said this guy can be special. I also think comparing Darren...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    We can agree Miz always seemed to be on pace to be a Y2J like face. And yes Miz is a good guy in the sense you've never heard a negative about him (same for Sheamus) as it comes to being a professional. They just ran into a wall after trying to make him a. Flair clone
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Is not koolaid, its truth. Drinking koolaid is thinking the summer of punk mattered, that the 400 day reign did anything for a business when it doesn't increase attendance. Drinking koolaid is thinking Bryan matters because a whole arena chants yes while not buying his gear, flipping the channel...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Why would you turn your only truly over face? The face that got you sponsors. The face of make a wish. The face of the cancer drive. The guy who draws the viewers. The guy who sees grown men buy his stuff for either themselves or their girls and kid. The guy that sells ppv.the guy that flips...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    To be fair, it's not as bad or wasn't as bad when they were brand split ppvs. If only 5 were unified and 4 for Raw and 4 for SD it would go better. Sad thing is who will pay for a sd ppv.
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Bryan's match was so random though. He went from half of hell no to getting a match because they were both dating the Bella's. Yes he was over, but on screen he had no individual credibility when he was being called Kane's weak link beforehand the whole title run. They acknowledged their...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Who said the matches were bad? Vince didnt say the matches were bad, they were good. He said the attractions weren't bought, meaning Punk being a threat to Brock was bs as was Bryan's dream story, compared to the year before. The guys didnt fit the billing vs Cena and. Brock, and they...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Longevity numbers he's up there with some of the all timers, drew on ecw better than ant champ but RVD and show, and sd had high ratings with him as world champ. Even see no evil was their most profitable film before the call. He's not Taker, but he's always had a mystique and instant...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    Some story tweaks and you think they could've used Brock to write Kane off? Kane was set to go anyway before See No Evil, and he's still a monster and a draw. I'm sure he could handle anything Brock dishes in a street fight. Plus they could use it as a tie in for taker later. I would just add...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    That's true, it just seemed like a waste how they used RVD at SummerSlam. SD got better numbers when he came and appeared every week. He's always had a cult following and they did pretty good last time at ONS buy wise. As for Punk the angle itself had sense but because it's Brock the UFC...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    @Tapout, Shawn had the benefit of his second run though, where he drew some, that and longevity. I mean he still has some high buys he generated as half the reformed DX which is why they kept reforming it, the hogan match, the Taker series at mania, and wm23. For what its worth Shawn was also...
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    Vince: Fans Didnt Buy The Attractions of SummerSlam 13

    In short goat boy ain't a viable attraction, and he wasted a Brock match on Punk. I doubt we see Bryan in a mania main event now without it being the fourth main event so to speak. No way to spin it at all, he basically said he wasted Cena and. Brock on Punk and Bryan and the business suffered...