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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    With the roll Punk has been in ring wise since holding the belt I think the match can def be better. Will help that there will probably be no HHH involved this time. Nothing against him but I think he should have stayed out of that SS build and match. Mostly curious on the feud itself though as...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Who is out there though for Punk to say get me this guy so I can beat them? I mean doesn't exactly work that way and not exactly realistic. Punk has gotten his way on guys he wanted to feud with that are there in Rey, and i'm sure he asked for Bryan and probably Jericho but point is there is no...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    I'm not really saying you're overly wrong about the lacking aspects of Punk's reign all I'm saying is none of it is Punk's fault and to take into consideration the situation he happens to be in which is very rare. Punk's reign will be remembered just based on the unique circumstance he was in as...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    I'll let Dale if he read it respond to the Cena stuff since that was a response mostly to him though I doubt you successfully refuted his point. Thing that caught my attention was you saying his title reign is the weakest of this decade which is 100% bullshit or you're just pulling a pyro and...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Yeah I figured that was your point about the clean/dirty thing I was just putting that out there as I thought the MITB win was clean enough SS on the other hand is a different story. And pretty much but he just refuses to blame the company or Cena and always wants to down Punk cause the...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Sure PSYCH will grasp at straws and bring up a bunch of irrelevant shit that still won't disspell the fact that the whole put the belt on Cena to make things all better thing is a flawed idea. The only tiny thing I disagree with is the Punk/Cena feud not putting Punk over mostly the MITB win not...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Don't wanna get far off topic but um I always was a Miz fan as long as you were I just happened to like both but never said Morrison over Miz was Miz over Morrison for me. And with Punk I support Punk face, heel whatever and always felt and feel he should be main event level as either. The stuff...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    They can look good with Cena all they want but it still will do nothing for them if WWE doesn't do anything with them. Countless guys have looked good losing to Cena and did jackshit after which is the real issue here so ultimately what you're saying will be a solution still won't fix the...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    So can we at least agree that this is a WWE not building and having more names problem than a it's all Punk's fault problem? Because that's pretty much what you just pointed out.
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Thank you this is all I've been saying he's in a situation no other main eventer has been in before but that stuff gets ignored unfortunately.
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    I don't get why a wrestling fan would care about most of the stuff PSYCH goes on about to the extent that it would make you actually like or dislike a wrestler because of it. If you don't like a guy fine but don't try and use stats and shit to back your opinion
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Did you not read when I said WWE is not building up heels and that's why he hasn't had credible challengers? This is one of the weakest time periods in WWE history when it comes to having top heels and that isn't Punk's fault which is my issue with you on this whole thing is that you keep...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Not gonna get in a all day debate about this but Punk is a made main eventer without a doubt he just isn't THE guy who is at the point where he is beyond the WWE title like Hogan was by the time them 90's came around which is why they will go out of their way to make his feud the main feud. I...
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    This is exactly what I want them to do and why I kinda love the idea of them feuding again. Gives Punk a reason to be bitter in a sense and could make it a huge deal like they did last year.
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    Early Plans of John Cena and CM punk for summerslam revealed

    Loved their feud last year and thought it ended a little too soon so I kinda like the idea of this. I say kinda because I hope the feud has a great story behind it and also don't want Cena to take the belt off of Punk unless they have a long term feud.
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