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I don't care who was hired by who how can anyone in TNA watch their programming and think "that's was a good segment" or "that makes sense"?
The Rated R CMStar
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Lol, I don't blame Russo, as you don't know for a fact who books what.
However, there are some things that have Russo all over it and well, they suck :shifty:
However, there are some things that have Russo all over it and well, they suck :shifty:
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I blame Jarrett for letting this shit on television. All Russo does it write the scripts, Jarrett approves/adjusts them and gives them the green light.
03/04 Russo had much more control, and that stuff was alot better then this current tripe.
03/04 Russo had much more control, and that stuff was alot better then this current tripe.
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i tend to look at the positives in tna. Saying TNA sucks got old a long time ago.
- Samoa Joe got pushed to the moon. Tna listened to all the whiney fans, Joe main event about 9-10 PPV's last year, but that didn't seem to make you happy. They still aren't pushing Joe hard enough.
- AJ Styles... last year fans were complaining "i can't believe he's heel" but TNA went the extra mile, made him heel, and in the process put him more over as a face than he was his whole career, but again he's not being pushed hard enough.
- Kurt Angle is a good franchise cornerstone at the moment, most think the belt should be on him, BUT don't like the fact MEM is showing some tension between the too. Odd.
- Using Sting as a vetern. ( These are your top 4 guys, i'd like to see someone argue saying one of these guys don't belong, and someone else does)
- Tag division LAX, MCMG, Beer Money, Lethal Consquences
- Alex Shelly X-division Champ
- Out with the old, in with the new. Getting rid of unneeded talent
- Using Jarrett/Foley as backstage characters
- Not putting the TNA belt on Booker T, and having him fued with young guys to put them over ( Robert Roode, Jay Lethal, Samoa Joe)
- Eric Young being a serious wrestler again
- Giving 3D more mic time
- sucessful Knock outs division.
- Expending Touring across US more so
- people seem to hate sharkboy...but don't realize he's a jobber and it doesn't really matter.
- Nash/Steiner being used as props for Angle/Sting/Booker for the most part. Plus these guys are heels. You aren't supposed to like them.
- = highest ratings
So to me, TNA just needs to start being consisent. I would think a shake up backstage would only help. But I certainly don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. I'm curiuos what they would book a year's worth of TNA.
- Samoa Joe got pushed to the moon. Tna listened to all the whiney fans, Joe main event about 9-10 PPV's last year, but that didn't seem to make you happy. They still aren't pushing Joe hard enough.
- AJ Styles... last year fans were complaining "i can't believe he's heel" but TNA went the extra mile, made him heel, and in the process put him more over as a face than he was his whole career, but again he's not being pushed hard enough.
- Kurt Angle is a good franchise cornerstone at the moment, most think the belt should be on him, BUT don't like the fact MEM is showing some tension between the too. Odd.
- Using Sting as a vetern. ( These are your top 4 guys, i'd like to see someone argue saying one of these guys don't belong, and someone else does)
- Tag division LAX, MCMG, Beer Money, Lethal Consquences
- Alex Shelly X-division Champ
- Out with the old, in with the new. Getting rid of unneeded talent
- Using Jarrett/Foley as backstage characters
- Not putting the TNA belt on Booker T, and having him fued with young guys to put them over ( Robert Roode, Jay Lethal, Samoa Joe)
- Eric Young being a serious wrestler again
- Giving 3D more mic time
- sucessful Knock outs division.
- Expending Touring across US more so
- people seem to hate sharkboy...but don't realize he's a jobber and it doesn't really matter.
- Nash/Steiner being used as props for Angle/Sting/Booker for the most part. Plus these guys are heels. You aren't supposed to like them.
- = highest ratings
So to me, TNA just needs to start being consisent. I would think a shake up backstage would only help. But I certainly don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. I'm curiuos what they would book a year's worth of TNA.
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Not pushed enough?
Monty, the fact is that this storyline was made to push AJ and Samoa Joe to an even higher echelon in the main event, not to give Sting and Kurt Angle a new edge in their characters and renew their feuds.
Jay Lethal went from beating Kurt Angle to being in a tag team nobody cares about with Creed. I fail to see how that is possible.
Counting MCMG in anything is a joke, seeing how they aren't more than resident jobbers.
Out with the old? Kurt Angle vs Sting is their main event feud. Getting rid of unnecessary talent? You are telling me that Brutus Magnus is more necessary than Petey Williams?
Sharkboy is a jobber alright, but may I remind he used to have not so long ago 4 segments per show with his Justice League shit.
I am alright with Team 3D getting mic time...but not to build a damn main event feud for a singles belt.
Monty, the fact is that this storyline was made to push AJ and Samoa Joe to an even higher echelon in the main event, not to give Sting and Kurt Angle a new edge in their characters and renew their feuds.
Jay Lethal went from beating Kurt Angle to being in a tag team nobody cares about with Creed. I fail to see how that is possible.
Counting MCMG in anything is a joke, seeing how they aren't more than resident jobbers.
Out with the old? Kurt Angle vs Sting is their main event feud. Getting rid of unnecessary talent? You are telling me that Brutus Magnus is more necessary than Petey Williams?
Sharkboy is a jobber alright, but may I remind he used to have not so long ago 4 segments per show with his Justice League shit.
I am alright with Team 3D getting mic time...but not to build a damn main event feud for a singles belt.
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Yeah, but it got worse not too long ago.
And they made Samoa Joe a cry baby. His reign was pretty weak as well. I'm not a big Joe fan, so I didn't really care, but I could see where they were coming from.
This one I agree with. I LOVED AJ as a heel. There was a lot more character there. The whole Christian Coalition vs. Angle Alliance storyline is what made me stay with TNA.
The character they are going with though is crap. everyone knows that Angle is best when his character is a hungry competitor. Look at most of his face runs in WWE and his TNA debut. They NAILED that character, and this "I'm the boss" stuff is stupid.
I agree here. Sting is the ONLY thing that keeps me even the slightest bit interested in this storyline.
....to bring in unneeded talent. I'd take Petey and Sonjay any day over Stevie Richards.
Considering both have had had matches lately...............
Those feuds were almost a year ago though. That's plenty enough time for a product to sour.
A jobber shouldn't be getting more TV time than a midcard star.
Eh, Nash and Steiner an leave for all I care.
Trust me man, the bad outweighs the good.
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They don't have to know anything. They just need to talk with some people who DO know about wrestling and that way they'll get an idea of what's wrong and what isn't.
Besides, I doubt that those who got involved with TNA from Panda don't know exactly anything about wrestling
Besides, I doubt that those who got involved with TNA from Panda don't know exactly anything about wrestling
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Monty, the fact is that this storyline was made to push AJ and Samoa Joe to an even higher echelon in the main event, not to give Sting and Kurt Angle a new edge in their characters and renew their feuds.
How can you say fact? It's a storyline, TNA can take it any direction they want. First of all, the storyline isn't over yet. Secondly I really don't know how much higher Samoa Joe can go in TNA. And just becuase "at the moment" it's given Sting/Angle more edgey characters, your basically saying everything is complete failure, which its not true.
Jay Lethal went from beating Kurt Angle to being in a tag team nobody cares about with Creed. I fail to see how that is possible.
Jay Lethal = Midcarder. Do you honestly see Main event potential in Jay Lethal....and to call Lethal consquences a team nobody cares about, they've only been around 2 months, and they've already won the tag straps. I'd say they are just as exciting as any team in the wwe. Any you says "nobody cares" well you clearly do care if your bringing Jay Lethal up as an example.
Counting MCMG in anything is a joke, seeing how they aren't more than resident jobbers.
Alex Shelly is a jobber but yet holds the X-division championship. Please explain.
Out with the old? Kurt Angle vs Sting is their main event feud. Getting rid of unnecessary talent? You are telling me that Brutus Magnus is more necessary than Petey Williams?
Yeah, We've seen Petey for 5 years. He's hit his glass ceilling. You have to keep the talent level fresh. That's why Sonjay/Williams are gone. Is brutus a great pick up. No. But let TNA actually do something with Brutus before you jump down their throats about it. Magnus is no worse than Vladimir Kozlov, and Brutus isn't main eventing a "big 4" ppv either.
Yeah, but it got worse not too long ago.
It's up and down. Like i said their biggest problem is inconsistency. From a storyline and booking prespective, I see what the fans don't like about it, and realize why they did. They had to put Rhyno/3D to feed some win's to the MEM. I don't think that has killed their storylines. Myself personally i don't know if i would have done it like that, but i see why they did. They had to prolong the fued somehow.
And they made Samoa Joe a cry baby. His reign was pretty weak as well. I'm not a big Joe fan, so I didn't really care, but I could see where they were coming from.
Good point, but some of the fault has to be put on Joe's shoulders as well. I don't think his character was ever that weak. He held the belt for like 6 months i wanna say and got screwed out of it. Does that make him a crybaby?
The character they are going with though is crap. everyone knows that Angle is best when his character is a hungry competitor. Look at most of his face runs in WWE and his TNA debut. They NAILED that character, and this "I'm the boss" stuff is stupid.
Another good point, but I actually like how Angle is getting a big head running the mafia. And when Sting/Angle were alone Angle showed weakness, until the mafia came and then he was a fireball again. To me, that's really makes his character interesting. It may not be angle's best performance ever, but i certainly think its works.
....to bring in unneeded talent. I'd take Petey and Sonjay any day over Stevie Richards.
Stevie Richards hasn't even wrestled yet. Who's to say he will. TNA likes having veterns (BG/Kip friends of jarrett) around to help the younger guys. I dont have a problem with this. Everyone seems to hate kip is employeed, but he wrestles how often, once-twice a month at the most. Plus maybe just maybe TNA is making room for the ROH contracts that are expiring in the next few months. Or maybe free up some money for guys like Elijah Burke and Paul London.
Considering both have had had matches lately...............
One match in the past 3-4 months for each? That's about how often they should be wrestling.
Eh, Nash and Steiner an leave for all I care.
It goes back to the veterns thing. These guys are former world champs, and maybe they will pick up some old wcw fans. Same for 3D/Rhyno. There to pick old ECW fans.
Trust me man, the bad outweighs the good.
Do i think TNA is hitting on all cylinders? Heck no. As i've said before there is some clear booking inconsistencies. But they doing some things right. I think it's gotten to the point where no one really sticks up for TNA anymore. It's just "tna sucks" and to me, their reasoning is very poor. If you valid reasons, fine. Myself, i hate Booker T current gimmick. Does that mean TNA sucks? No. They've been correcting their problems the past 3 years, and while doing so it's created more, but none the less let Jarrett run the company. I really think they've been spending more time in other areas of running the company than booking itself. They've been doing a lot more house shows, gettin better tv slots, better marketing. They've been around 7-8 years and they haven't gone out of business yet so they must be doing something right.
How can you say fact? It's a storyline, TNA can take it any direction they want. First of all, the storyline isn't over yet. Secondly I really don't know how much higher Samoa Joe can go in TNA. And just becuase "at the moment" it's given Sting/Angle more edgey characters, your basically saying everything is complete failure, which its not true.
Jay Lethal went from beating Kurt Angle to being in a tag team nobody cares about with Creed. I fail to see how that is possible.
Jay Lethal = Midcarder. Do you honestly see Main event potential in Jay Lethal....and to call Lethal consquences a team nobody cares about, they've only been around 2 months, and they've already won the tag straps. I'd say they are just as exciting as any team in the wwe. Any you says "nobody cares" well you clearly do care if your bringing Jay Lethal up as an example.
Counting MCMG in anything is a joke, seeing how they aren't more than resident jobbers.
Alex Shelly is a jobber but yet holds the X-division championship. Please explain.
Out with the old? Kurt Angle vs Sting is their main event feud. Getting rid of unnecessary talent? You are telling me that Brutus Magnus is more necessary than Petey Williams?
Yeah, We've seen Petey for 5 years. He's hit his glass ceilling. You have to keep the talent level fresh. That's why Sonjay/Williams are gone. Is brutus a great pick up. No. But let TNA actually do something with Brutus before you jump down their throats about it. Magnus is no worse than Vladimir Kozlov, and Brutus isn't main eventing a "big 4" ppv either.
Yeah, but it got worse not too long ago.
It's up and down. Like i said their biggest problem is inconsistency. From a storyline and booking prespective, I see what the fans don't like about it, and realize why they did. They had to put Rhyno/3D to feed some win's to the MEM. I don't think that has killed their storylines. Myself personally i don't know if i would have done it like that, but i see why they did. They had to prolong the fued somehow.
And they made Samoa Joe a cry baby. His reign was pretty weak as well. I'm not a big Joe fan, so I didn't really care, but I could see where they were coming from.
Good point, but some of the fault has to be put on Joe's shoulders as well. I don't think his character was ever that weak. He held the belt for like 6 months i wanna say and got screwed out of it. Does that make him a crybaby?
The character they are going with though is crap. everyone knows that Angle is best when his character is a hungry competitor. Look at most of his face runs in WWE and his TNA debut. They NAILED that character, and this "I'm the boss" stuff is stupid.
Another good point, but I actually like how Angle is getting a big head running the mafia. And when Sting/Angle were alone Angle showed weakness, until the mafia came and then he was a fireball again. To me, that's really makes his character interesting. It may not be angle's best performance ever, but i certainly think its works.
....to bring in unneeded talent. I'd take Petey and Sonjay any day over Stevie Richards.
Stevie Richards hasn't even wrestled yet. Who's to say he will. TNA likes having veterns (BG/Kip friends of jarrett) around to help the younger guys. I dont have a problem with this. Everyone seems to hate kip is employeed, but he wrestles how often, once-twice a month at the most. Plus maybe just maybe TNA is making room for the ROH contracts that are expiring in the next few months. Or maybe free up some money for guys like Elijah Burke and Paul London.
Considering both have had had matches lately...............
One match in the past 3-4 months for each? That's about how often they should be wrestling.
Eh, Nash and Steiner an leave for all I care.
It goes back to the veterns thing. These guys are former world champs, and maybe they will pick up some old wcw fans. Same for 3D/Rhyno. There to pick old ECW fans.
Trust me man, the bad outweighs the good.
Do i think TNA is hitting on all cylinders? Heck no. As i've said before there is some clear booking inconsistencies. But they doing some things right. I think it's gotten to the point where no one really sticks up for TNA anymore. It's just "tna sucks" and to me, their reasoning is very poor. If you valid reasons, fine. Myself, i hate Booker T current gimmick. Does that mean TNA sucks? No. They've been correcting their problems the past 3 years, and while doing so it's created more, but none the less let Jarrett run the company. I really think they've been spending more time in other areas of running the company than booking itself. They've been doing a lot more house shows, gettin better tv slots, better marketing. They've been around 7-8 years and they haven't gone out of business yet so they must be doing something right.