Stupidity in HBK/JBL Feud Grows

[JurassicBonez]

So after this weeks RAW, JBL has his a new deal for HBK, a winner take all match. HBK wins, he's free, and JBL still pays him for a year. If JBL wins, he owns HBK's name... forever. Now for the stupidity part.

JBL hired HBK to help him succeed, to return to the top of his game, to be World champ again., and in return JBL pays HBK for his services. He's been employeed since Dec. 1 or Dec. 8., that's two months. JBL is still paying HBK, he's holding up on his end of the deal, but JBL isn't World Heavyweight champ, so HBK isn't holding up on his end.

So then JBL "The Business Man" makes that new deal with HBK. WHY?!?! Why would you have a continuously failed employee work for you? Why would you make an offer like that to a failed employee where he has the chance of still being paid? HBK doesn't listen and hasn't held up on his end of the deal, so he makes a deal where if HBK wins, he still gets paid but doesn't work for him anymore. What kind of shit is that? I didn't like this feud at 1st cause it made no since, then it started getting better. Now it's back in the same hole it was in at the beginning. Am I the only one that feels this way of this new dea.

 

[Airfixx]

JBL-types enjoy playing power games with people...

I predicted a period of abuse from JBL on HBK... Here it comes.

You gotta remember that JBL doesn't expect to lose this match (He's the self proffessed "Wrestling God" afterall) so it's somewhat 'entertainment' for him...



@ J-Bonez.... Rather than, as you've stated, leaping to conclusions of "this is great" to "this sucks" at every turn of the storyline, just sit back and enjoy the ride and see what you think about what goes down once it HAS transpired.

 

[JurassicBonez]

But the logic behind it doesn't make since. Why would you keep a failed employee. When you're runing a buisiness, would you keep a failed employee who's insubordinate and hasn't done what he's paid to do? No you get rid of that employee. JBL already owns HBK right? So he's not gaining anything in this agreement, only has a chance of losing money supplying it to HBK if he wins.

And its not I'm jumping back and forth from this is great to it sucks, it just doesn't make since for JBL to make a deal like that. And by the way it seems to be going, I see it ending two ways...

1. HBK wins at NWO and that solves his financial crisis.

2. JBL wins at NWO but somebody else comes in and says they will fight for HBK's freedom (at mania maybe) and they win.

 

[Airfixx]

But the logic behind it doesn't make since. Why would you keep a failed employee. When you're runing a buisiness, would you keep a failed employee who's insubordinate and hasn't done what he's paid to do? No you get rid of that employee.

JBL has already acknowledged that he has hired the best money can buy...

Reminding you that we're in kayfaybe-land here; can you think of anyone better than HBK to hire?

JBL already owns HBK right?

No, he EMPLOYS him.

So he's not gaining anything in this agreement,

I've not seen Raw yet, but from what I can gather Shawn's very name is up for grabs... i./e. If he loses he can never wrestle as HBK etc. again thus losing all his drawing power and really finding his career in the gutter.

only has a chance of losing money supplying it to HBK if he wins.

He can afford it... Like I said previously... You don't think JBLs getting off on screwing with the integrity and reputation of one of the best of all time?

And as I'd previously alluded to, do you honestly think that someone as conceited as JBL sees himself losing?

and its not I'm jumping back and forth from this is great to it sucks, it just doesn't make since for JBL to make a deal like that.

By your own admition you didn't like the storyline, then you did and now you don't again... All I'm saying is don't write it off so quickly... Roll with it & buckle down for the long-term pay-off... You may enjoy it.

I concur that it won't be without it's faults - we're not gonna get hollywood-esque production values and thespian perfection here - but IMO this storyline is great and will get even better before it's over.

 

[LKP]

JBL wins at NWO but somebody else comes in and says they will fight for HBK's freedom (at mania maybe) and they win.

Im sure that is when taker comes into this feud. hbk vs taker at wm25 somehow will transpire from this. And they can plant another seed next week on raw when taker fights Orton. Hes on raw next week so then is the time to start the feud then somehow.

 

[noumenon]

Personally, I thought this was a great feud, and really saved JBL's ass who otherwise would really not have anything else to do right now.
I'm just a bit upset by how abrubtly it seems this thing is going to come to an end. Last night's promo was a bit shocking as they opted to go with an all or nothing match. This to me is WWE's way of saying they don't think a feud that they've spent months building is Mania worthy. Kind of like..."Well fuck it, we don't wanna drag this until Mania...so alright...all or nothing."
I think this match would have been totally Mania worthy. HBK...Mr. Wrestlemania defending his NAME...the rights to his name and his freedom for the rest of his life at the biggest show of the year.
It would also be a nice twist...last year HBK was the guy ending someone's career... this year it's he who is fighting for his livelyhood.

 

[★Chuck Zombie★]

I've not seen Raw yet, but from what I can gather Shawn's very name is up for grabs... i./e. If he loses he can never wrestle as HBK etc. again thus losing all his drawing power and really finding his career in the gutter.

Close. if JBL wins he owns everything about Shawn and Shawn has to be a slave so to speak to JBL for an unspecified, but assuredly long amount of time.

 

[PeepShow]

Can someone please explain the stupidity of this storyline to me?

 

[MikeRaw]

Does the storyline have holes? Yes.
Are they as big as you say? No.

WWE is trying to pull the wool over our eyes a bit, yes, but it still kinda makes sense. JBL wants to keep HBK employed by him, even if HBK is failing him, because if HBk isn't employed by JBL, he'd be free to go win the title himself, setting JBL back even further.

 

[Hardcastle]

Am I the only one to think that maybe JBL is gonna win at NWO and then will force HBK to attack taker because he tried to make him do the right thing ? we could have this great HBK/Taker match without stopping the good storyline between JBL and the boy toy

 

[Airfixx]

JBL wins at NWO but somebody else comes in and says they will fight for HBK's freedom (at mania maybe) and they win.

Im sure that is when taker comes into this feud. hbk vs taker at wm25 somehow will transpire from this. And they can plant another seed next week on raw when taker fights Orton. Hes on raw next week so then is the time to start the feud then somehow.

That makes no damn sense at all!

So JBL wins at NWO and then Taker steps up to fight for Shawn's freedom AGAINST Shawn?



:throws hands in the air:


WDF-on-a-stick!?!?!

 

[Kaptain KnicKy]

Personally, I thought this was a great feud, and really saved JBL's ass who otherwise would really not have anything else to do right now.
I'm just a bit upset by how abrubtly it seems this thing is going to come to an end. Last night's promo was a bit shocking as they opted to go with an all or nothing match. This to me is WWE's way of saying they don't think a feud that they've spent months building is Mania worthy. Kind of like..."Well fuck it, we don't wanna drag this until Mania...so alright...all or nothing."
I think this match would have been totally Mania worthy. HBK...Mr. Wrestlemania defending his NAME...the rights to his name and his freedom for the rest of his life at the biggest show of the year.
It would also be a nice twist...last year HBK was the guy ending someone's career... this year it's he who is fighting for his livelyhood.

That is a great point you've brought up there! I think WWE are going to swing this further along to WrestleMania though, I'm not really sure how they could do this, but I just feel it's going to happen.

As much as I'd love to see Taker/HBK at Mania, with JBL being the main instigater behind it, I think I'd prefer them to run their own thing with that fued.

Here's a crazy idea that just popped into my head...

-HBK and JBL face off at NWO, and JBL beats HBK and takes his name. The following week, maybe Taker comes out and destroys JBL (possibly even to the extent that he is taken out of action, maybe) and JBL seeks revenge (hell, they could even have JBL just play the scared shitless act from Taker, again).

This is a little cliche, but HBK could (COULD) go heel, possibly reverting once again to his '90s days when he fought Taker in HIAC and what not, to make him 'prepare' for the match, pull off some of his classic promos and what nots. To raise the stakes, JBL gives Shawn the chance to reclaim his name, and to be free and financially set if he can beat and end the UnderTaker's career.

I don't know, I think if you put it that way, I think things would be pretty psyched up:
-Bring back a slightly more ruthless HBK
-Bring back a 90s style Taker, while you're at it.
-Really stack the odds in favour for HBK, make it seem like he has to win.

And on top of all this, we could have Naitch run in at the end and cost HBK the match, for what he did at WM24...

Settled! We get Taker's streak still going, Naitch makes a surprise return, and HBK puts on a showstopper for us all, ultimately losing his title and retiring himself at Mania, as he has a brief epiphany in the ring about how HIS career has come to an end at WM, after being attacked by Flair...

 

[Hardcastle]

obviously, Taker can't fight for HBK's freedom, that wouldn't make any sense. But maybe JBL will be fed up with Taker for talking to Shawn because JBL still fears HBK, he knows he's better, that would be a good reason for me

 

[Airfixx]

"Dear Vince,

Next Wrestlemania can you please revert to the old days of simple booking where the babyface champ faces a big nasty man that had previously done him wrong as all these storylines you are writing that require basic logical thought and a memory span that reaches beyond the length of one PPV are r-e-a-l-l-y hurting my b-w-a-a-a-i-n.

Your's,

'Smart(*) Internet Fan X' "




[*'Fixx cyber-chokes on his words halfway through typing]

 

[Roucka]

If wwe really wanted this to be a good match they would make it an I Quit match. But hopefully HBK wins this feud.