Major Knockout Star Leaves TNA

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The point is women shouldn't have a place to be a sexual object, men don't. Also the bikini contests, and VOTE FOR YOUR FAVOURITE OUTFIT totally arnt degrading at all right? And Mickie and Trish have beene in those.

WWE exploit women and you know it.
 

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Sexual object? Val Venis anybody?

But seriously, the bikini contests are there for the girls who can't get over with actual wrestling. Who are the majoritie viewers of WWE? (Correct me if I'm wrong) MALES. What do males like? BOOBIES.

And don't women like being beautiful? When they sign up they know what business they're getting into, they wrestle in itty bitty trunks anyway (like most guys >_>) so Bikini Contests are usually nothing more than a standing match.

And I for one would rather see a Torrie Wilson VS Sable VS Maria Bikini Contest than a Torrie VS Sable VS Maria wrestling match.
 
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Oh boy! This really sucks! Gail is the heart and soul of the Knockouts. WWHHH isn't going to showcase her. They didn't last time. Vince has a history of railroading talent from rivals.
 

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Val Venis? Thats one in comparison to the majority of WWE "Divas". There is a large imbalance there, right.

I'm not gonna argue, I know WWE won't change.
 

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I'm not gonna argue, I know WWE won't change.

That's where you're wrong, Gashface. The WWE has cut back on the "bikini contests" (Hell, the last one was on SD months ago), they did the thing with the Olympic outfits a couple of weeks back, but that was an actual wrestling match.

Over on RAW, the last bikini contest they had was also a couple of months ago. The fact is, WWE has toned it down a LOT when it comes to the T & A, and they have been focusing more on the wrestling side of the ladies.
 

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she should of stay in tna she better hope she dont job
 

Chuck Taylor's Grenade

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Good captain charisma on a crutch! You people act like the knockouts division will just implode without Gail Kim and that her career will suck harder than Michelle McCool did to get the divas title. Why would WWE even consider resigning her if she wasn't talented? I feel she would make a good addition to the Divas division on smackdown since they don't have that many wrestling women right now. She did what was best for her financially. It's no different than anyone else from TNA or anywhere else signing a WWE contract. TNA's knockouts division will continue to thrive. Look at who they got-ODB, Wilde, Kong, Sky, Love, Hemme, Tracy and Jacqueline. All talented in their own right. No one wrestler should be the face of a division.
 
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Gail Kim was awesome on TNA, and was getting the best push she'll ever get!

If she goes to WWE, she'll be jobbed.
 

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the bright side to all of this is that we will no longer have to have 30 million shots of gail's sister
 

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I'll give her three months in WWE tops. Whether it be over politics, people crapping on her for being in TNA, being sick of being treated like a sex toy, or WWE flat out losing interest, she'll be gone soon.

Besides, hasn't she learned anything from the other people who tried going to WWE? If she felt that TNA wasn't giving her the guarantees she wanted, just wait until she gets the Braden Walker treatment. She was the John Cena of the Knockouts and now she just threw it away to be jobbed to whoever most recently decided to take her clothes off for money. I just hope when she quits/is wished the best on her future endeavors by the WWE, she is not rehired as a Knockout. That's what happens when you're an ungrateful idiot.

But oh well, this leaves room for ODB and Roxxi.
 

MikeRaw

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^Or you could, just shut the fuck up for once.
I like people having opinions, but your endless rants about women being sex toys, mistreated, etc is the most annoying gimmick in iwf history. Your probably some fat, greasy fucking smurf who needs to be alternative for the sake of it.
I don't see any of the women in wwe being mistreated, or treated as sex toys... hey, when was the last bikini contest? dance contest? Best ass contest? Lie sex celebration? Sexual angle? or anything. It's been a long time, and the ones who were involved, were there for that. WWE won't put Gail Kim in that, because they know she's a wrestler. Go kill yourself.
 

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This is for people that think she will be misused in the E....

Does anyone remember what Gail Kim did in her first WWE match?


Exactly
 

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^Or you could, just shut the fuck up for once.
I like people having opinions, but your endless rants about women being sex toys, mistreated, etc is the most annoying gimmick in iwf history. Your probably some fat, greasy fucking smurf who needs to be alternative for the sake of it.
I don't see any of the women in wwe being mistreated, or treated as sex toys... hey, when was the last bikini contest? dance contest? Best ass contest? Lie sex celebration? Sexual angle? or anything. It's been a long time, and the ones who were involved, were there for that. WWE won't put Gail Kim in that, because they know she's a wrestler. Go kill yourself.
...wow... just... wow. Before you even bother replying to this, start being mature. I'll give you a pass this time since you have a good history of partaking in civil discussions, but I'm not going to waste by time replying to another one of these. Grow up. And for the record, about who I am in real life, hola and feliz navidad in advance from me and my Venezuelan girlfriend of three years. Wish you were here! Ha, not really.

Anyway, when was the last time we had stuff like that? Well, there was that half a year of Maria dominating the scene because she took her clothes off for money. Every Diva was in on the angle, and Maria came out on top, winning the battle for the right to be a porn star. Then there was that thing with Mickie James and John Cena... what was it? Swapping fluids? There was that "you left your panties in my car" bit, and some other Diva being jealous and sparking a feud between them. We DID have a bikini contest a couple months back, which is NOT that long a time, especially considering that the awesome Beth/Melina feud occured prior to it, effectively ending that brief era of awesome Diva matches. Even today Maria is treated like one of the best that Smackdown has to offer, getting a bigger draft return hype than anyone else. Victoria Crawford, a wrestler you probably know as Alicia Fox or just "the wedding planner", has so far been used only to make out with Edge. I don't watch ECW so I can't say anything about the girls there, but i'm willing to put money on "it's not much different." Listen to the lyrics of some of their entrance themes, and just listen to the commentary. "Oh ho ho ho! I'd pay Melina to put me in a headscissors!" "Woooaaahhohohoh! I don't think that's what Lou Thesz had in mind!" in regards to a thesz press using the crotch. If you think that WWE is using the women seriously, you're two of three of blind, deaf, or dumb.

As for WWE using Gail right because she can wrestle, tell me, what has Victoria done recently? Didn't Natalya job to Torrie Wilson a month ago? Didn't Mickie James, the WWE Women's Champion, totally dominate a match only to get pinned in the middle of the ring because Katie Lea elbowed her back? Gail might be used for one month or even two, but WWE will quickly lose interest, and she'll turn heel so she can job to Maria or whoever most recently decided to take her clothes off for money. Then she'll be released with a several year non-compete clause in regards to TNA. Because really, if you think this is anything more than WWE trying to take apart the Knockouts, once again, two of three.
 

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Amen brother ^

Anybody who doesn't think that WWE is still exploiting women just because they've put on a mildly entertaining feud between Beth/Melinda is not opening their eyes. You are obvisously quite blind and deaf when it comes to recognising sexual eploitation. The commentary is something that has ALWAYS bothered me. King talks about the womens wrestlers as if they are pieces of meat, not human beings, and athletes.
 

MikeRaw

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...wow... just... wow. Before you even bother replying to this, start being mature. I'll give you a pass this time since you have a good history of partaking in civil discussions, but I'm not going to waste by time replying to another one of these. Grow up. And for the record, about who I am in real life, hola and feliz navidad in advance from me and my Venezuelan girlfriend of three years. Wish you were here! Ha, not really.

Anyway, when was the last time we had stuff like that? Well, there was that half a year of Maria dominating the scene because she took her clothes off for money. Every Diva was in on the angle, and Maria came out on top, winning the battle for the right to be a porn star. Then there was that thing with Mickie James and John Cena... what was it? Swapping fluids? There was that "you left your panties in my car" bit, and some other Diva being jealous and sparking a feud between them. We DID have a bikini contest a couple months back, which is NOT that long a time, especially considering that the awesome Beth/Melina feud occured prior to it, effectively ending that brief era of awesome Diva matches. Even today Maria is treated like one of the best that Smackdown has to offer, getting a bigger draft return hype than anyone else. Victoria Crawford, a wrestler you probably know as Alicia Fox or just "the wedding planner", has so far been used only to make out with Edge. I don't watch ECW so I can't say anything about the girls there, but i'm willing to put money on "it's not much different." Listen to the lyrics of some of their entrance themes, and just listen to the commentary. "Oh ho ho ho! I'd pay Melina to put me in a headscissors!" "Woooaaahhohohoh! I don't think that's what Lou Thesz had in mind!" in regards to a thesz press using the crotch. If you think that WWE is using the women seriously, you're two of three of blind, deaf, or dumb.

As for WWE using Gail right because she can wrestle, tell me, what has Victoria done recently? Didn't Natalya job to Torrie Wilson a month ago? Didn't Mickie James, the WWE Women's Champion, totally dominate a match only to get pinned in the middle of the ring because Katie Lea elbowed her back? Gail might be used for one month or even two, but WWE will quickly lose interest, and she'll turn heel so she can job to Maria or whoever most recently decided to take her clothes off for money. Then she'll be released with a several year non-compete clause in regards to TNA. Because really, if you think this is anything more than WWE trying to take apart the Knockouts, once again, two of three.

I will admit one thing then, and that is that you did bring up some good points about things that happened not too long ago. So I guess I'll give you the win in that part. But I still don't see why that means doom for Gail....

Really, she may, next april end up jobbing to the next bimbo in playboy, yes, but overall, I don't think that will mean her whole time in wwe is doomed.
She will definately be put in some great matches upon arrival, and Gail probably already made sure of that before she agreed to go to wwe. The people who are ALWAYS in the bikini contests, sexual stuff, etc, are people like Maria, Candice, etc...
Other women are only maybe in a sexual angle once or twice int heir time in wwe. And those aren't big either. Liek theMickie thing, it was a small thing, but no big deal, and hasn't affected her career at all. Same with the thing with Melina in a bikini contest, she is usuaully not in them at all, but just for once she went in, and it hasn't doomed her career.

So basically, I think you're making wwe out much worse than they are, because really, Gail will most likely be successful and (if at all) she has any of the typical diva's things, I highly doubt it will be her full time thing to be in bra and panties.