Dolph Ziggler MITB

[Prodigy]

I heard he may be cashing in at survivor series to end the Sheamus vs Show feud. But I doubt he will.

 

[Troy]

I like that they are heading towards a Ziggler/Cena because Ziggler needs a big feud before he cashes in. It is getting too repetitive seeing these guys cash it in coming off loss after loss. If Ziggler can get a win over Cena even if it is dusty finish it will be a good step forward. Be interesting if Ziggler can beat Cena at SS and then cash it in later that night. I just can't see him feuding with Show at all, it seems like they will try to get Orton back into the mainevent if Ziggler takes the title at Survivor Series or TLC. Ziggler and Orton work well together in the ring and once Orton has finished filming he will be back in the title scene.

 

[Embrace Thou Maryse]

I like that they are heading towards a Ziggler/Cena because Ziggler needs a big feud before he cashes in. It is getting too repetitive seeing these guys cash it in coming off loss after loss. If Ziggler can get a win over Cena even if it is dusty finish it will be a good step forward. Be interesting if Ziggler can beat Cena at SS and then cash it in later that night. I just can't see him feuding with Show at all, it seems like they will try to get Orton back into the mainevent if Ziggler takes the title at Survivor Series or TLC. Ziggler and Orton work well together in the ring and once Orton has finished filming he will be back in the title scene.

I'd love to see that, but the chances of Ziggler going over Cena in a feud are 1 in 1000 at most. It's becoming more and more obvious that when Ziggler cashes in he'll be a similar Champion to Jack Swagger. Ziggler himself will run with the ball, he'll produce great matches, deliver good promos but the booking will mean no one takes him seriously and Ziggler will suffer for the bookers ineptitude. They've had how many months now to build him up and all he's done is put everyone else over, job to Brodus, have a forgettable feud with Jericho and lose a feud to Orton. Its a shame Dolph has all the talent to be a big star but WWE have no idea how to build/book MITB winners, they rely on the MITB case to get them over and don't book them to get over.

 

[Troy]

I'd love to see that, but the chances of Ziggler going over Cena in a feud are 1 in 1000 at most. It's becoming more and more obvious that when Ziggler cashes in he'll be a similar Champion to Jack Swagger. Ziggler himself will run with the ball, he'll produce great matches, deliver good promos but the booking will mean no one takes him seriously and Ziggler will suffer for the bookers ineptitude. They've had how many months now to build him up and all he's done is put everyone else over, job to Brodus, have a forgettable feud with Jericho and lose a feud to Orton. Its a shame Dolph has all the talent to be a big star but WWE have no idea how to build/book MITB winners, they rely on the MITB case to get them over and don't book them to get over.

I just don't know why the bookers can't understand that guys like Orton and Cena could lose every match for a year and they would still be two of the most over guys in the company. They don't need the wins and would be better used trying to help get guys to their level. They are definitely heading towards a Ziggler/Cena match, I don't see why Cena would win. It would do nothing at all for the product whereas Ziggler winning thanks to Vickie or thanks to a lowblow or something similarly heelish would help Ziggler.

I am sick of seeing guys being given the MITB briefcase and then being pretty much buried. All that does is show the fans that these guys aren't ready yet which isn't the kind of message you want to send when they have a world title shot in the near future.

 

[Embrace Thou Maryse]

I just don't know why the bookers can't understand that guys like Orton and Cena could lose every match for a year and they would still be two of the most over guys in the company. They don't need the wins and would be better used trying to help get guys to their level. They are definitely heading towards a Ziggler/Cena match, I don't see why Cena would win. It would do nothing at all for the product whereas Ziggler winning thanks to Vickie or thanks to a lowblow or something similarly heelish would help Ziggler.

I am sick of seeing guys being given the MITB briefcase and then being pretty much buried. All that does is show the fans that these guys aren't ready yet which isn't the kind of message you want to send when they have a world title shot in the near future.

Exactly Cena and Orton are that established and that over that they dont need the wins, they should be used more often to put goes over instead Orton wins every single feud he's in and Cena's only losses are to returning stars like The Rock or non wrestlers like Big Johnny. Cena losing to Ziggler clean middle of the ring after a long match would not hurt him at all but would establish Ziggler as a star more than just slapping the MITB on him and not pushing him ever will.

 

[Troy]

Ziggler has picked up a bit of momentum in recent weeks. At Survivor Series he was the sole survivor for his team and he managed that by pinning Randy Orton after a superkick. Then on RAW Ziggler continued his background storyline with Cena by brawling with him backstage and getting the better of Cena after crashing through a shower cubicle. This is WWE's big chance to get Ziggler up to the next level, if he can be presented as an equal with Cena in the ring and manage to get a win over Cena that would be massive. That would also be a great launching pad for him to cash in his MITB briefcase.

I like that in the past month they have scaled back on the fake cash-ins. Now if Ziggler appears after a title match fans won't automatically think that he won't cash it in, now it will keep people guessing a little bit longer.

 

[Deezy]

Next WHC match is a gimmick match, seems like the most likely time to cash in.

So that means he doesn't.

 

[zigglerHEEL]

I've been so back and forth on this..... Here's my latest... I would assume that the WHC match at TLC will be somewhere in the middle of the card, so would it be so out of this world to think maybe Zigs could cash in on whoever survives the Chairs Match and win the title before his match with Cena.... Then Cena beats Dolph (non-title) to set up a rematch for the belt at the Rumble where Ziggler can go over (maybe with some interference from whoever Cena is to face at Mania).... sets up Cena's road to Wrestlemania and sets up Zigs defending his belt in the Chamber and then again at Mania

 

[Deezy]

Or Cena actually challenges Ziggler for his MITB based on the fact that he has no nuts and doesn't cash it in already.

Cena takes it off Ziggler, who has only recently had any heat on him and doesn't look like world title material and Cena goes after Show and eventually faces Sheamus at Mania, leaving alot of room for bigger names to face other people besides him.

Maybe? Probz not.

 

[The New F'n Show]

I think one of two things happens. I'll call them what I think will happen and what I think should happen.

What I think Will Happen.

Ziggler cashes in on the Champion after the Elimination Chamber Match. This makes sense to me, worked on the first cash in and gives Ziggler the match for Mania.

What I would do

I would put the title on Ziggler with a cash in the night after Mania. Have whomever leaves as Champion at Mania either Brag or come out to cheers and talk about their dream and then have whoever they defeated take them out and have Ziggler cash in. I just don't think fighting for the belt at Mania is in his best interest. I'd rather they start after Mania and the main attractions have already occurred.

 

[Deezy]

Wouldn't that just cheapen the title events of Mania?

Also, why would they just rehash an old CM Punk cash in or an Edge cash in? If this guy was the show stealer, he would do it at Mania.

 

[The New F'n Show]

Wouldn't that just cheapen the title events of Mania?

Also, why would they just rehash an old CM Punk cash in or an Edge cash in? If this guy was the show stealer, he would do it at Mania.

I can see this argument. My line of thinking was the Day after Mania always starts the new calender year and putting Ziggler on top made sense.

 

[Troy]

It would be good to finally see someone cash it in at WM, so many have hinted at doing it but it has never eventuated. Would be a new way to close the show with the last image being a heel just after cashing in and winning the title.