WZ Article: Why John Cena Must End The Streak

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Listen to the sounds of thousands upon thousands of people chomping at the bit in anticipation of Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker. Listen to cacophony of stampeding feet as people rush to buy tickets and sign up for the network just to see if Brock Lesnar can end the streak. Listen to the millions around the world screaming in anticipation of the The Undertaker's unbeaten Wrestlemania run finally meeting its demise.

Silence is wonderful, isn't it?

It says a lot when Paul Heyman, a master word-smith of any generation, can't even make a coherent argument to the contrary. Heyman did a magnificent job last week on Raw talking about how Taker's 21-0 compared to the Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan never got close to even double figures, let alone 21. And what did Heyman offer as a counter argument? BRRRRRROOOCCKKK LESNNNNAARR – WWE's gun for hire, main event enhancement talent, the man who gets paid to lose: Cena at Extreme Rules in 2012, Triple H at Wrestlemania – when it really matters, Brock Lesnar does “what's best for business”. WWE have two more weeks of build, and you shouldn't judge a movie at the 40 minute mark – but they established just how much of a threat Lesnar would be when Undertaker stabbed him with a pen and chokeslammed him through a table within minutes of the feud starting.

And who should be surprised? Triple H tried three times twice – couldn't do it, CM Punk – couldn't do it, Shawn Michaels – couldn't do it. And what other names do they have? In 2014 The Rock – wouldn't do it, Steve Austin – wouldn't do it, Kane (come on, really!), Daniel Bryan – wouldn't do it, Sting (wrestling in a t-shirt?), John Cena – they wouldn't, would they?

And there's the moment for pause, the one name that sits out of a list that makes fans sit back and wonder. Some maybe recoil at the thought, after all he “doesn't need it”. But WWE's shortage of true Mania headline matches (both realistic and fanciful) makes it quite the question as to why this match isn't take place in three weeks time. Cena is the only name with a question mark next to it – Cena vs The Undertaker is the only match of any value, the only “headline worthy” match remaining. Let's just say it's a good job the veil of the network will hide what the true buy-rate for Wrestlemania would've been this year.

The timing of Hulk Hogan's return is an interesting one. Hogan is the standard bearer for the company, the main who took the WWF from being a territory to being the territory. I'll save you the 5,000 word history lesson but Cena's legacy will ultimately be remembered for a comparable transition at the very least (going from attitude to PG and navigating the fallout of Chris Benoit with the company rested firmly atop his shoulders). Why bring Hogan up in all this? Simple – if Hogan was around at a comparable time when the streak was at it's pomp like this, he would've ended it. If Austin or Rock were – they would have too. If WWE wants to write in the history books that John Cena was the Hulk Hogan of his generation, that he was the Rock or the Stone Cold of his generation – he must end the streak.

But he “doesn't need it” – I hear you cry. The same people that will tell you the company is “suffering” because he is the guy on top (“suffering” – with stock prices at an all time high, a mega-TV deal coming around the corner and Mania buy-rates at the highest they've ever been). Cena needs the streak to validate him as great – just in the same way that WWE took Brock Lesnar and broke him down to the point where he's just somebody because he always lost, the WWE can put John Cena comfortably alongside Hogan, Austin and Rock by making him do what nobody else has done before. If Cena can't get the job done – how can you put him alongside Hogan? Hogan got the job done when it mattered.

But what for Undertaker? He should “retire” with the streak. Do me a favour. That sounds like a TNA booking plan. Undertaker “retiring” with the streak would be like drawing out a billion dollars in a currency you can't use. Last time I checked the WWE were in the business of making money – and if you believe what you read they're about to make a lot more of it soon. Where is the value in Taker retiring with the streak? That's not how wrestling works. WWE have done a great job in building one guy and one match each year that can prop up their biggest show – the streak dies when he retires anyway – whether he's and 0 or and 1. If we're going to talk about what's “best for business” – let's have a sane discussion.

But if Taker should pass the torch it should be to a “young guy” – yeah… because WWE have been so good at maintaining a consistent push for young guys in recent years. Let's take the top 8 wrestlers “to be pushed” by the company after Mania: Lesnar, Cena, Orton, Batista, Bryan, Reigns, Cesaro and Wyatt. Four of those guys debuted in 2002 (what a year that was!) four of those guys debuted after 2010. In the intervening years only CM Punk ever really got anywhere – Sheamus, Lashley, Ryback, Mysterio, Hardy, Mr Kennedy, Drew McIntyre, Alberto Del Rio – they were all going to be the guy. They gave up on them all. It's too late to get anyone ready now – Taker doesn't have long enough left.

As the man would say – the time really is now. Undertaker (theoretically) could go on for a number of years wrestling once every twelve months – it's not unheard of, but it's hard to believe that Taker would want to risk his recent legacy of putting on showcase matches. Let's have two more matches – Cena goes over him at Wrestlemania 31. Taker wins the rematch at 32 and retires. That'll do just fine.

Then there's the possibilities. People have often talked, nee hoped, for a Cena heel turn. The timing has never been right, and it likely never will be. But imagine Cena cheating to end the streak? Heck, imagine Cena arrogantly putting down the Undertaker in a decisive manner? There are volcanoes that wouldn't be able to generate that kind of heat.

People will have you believe that Cena's run as the face of the company is coming to an end. Because Austin never lasted this long, because Rock never lasted this long. Heck Hogan barely lasted this long. But you forget one important thing linking all three men – they all left. Hogan to WCW, Rock to Hollywood, and Austin called it a day because of injuries. Cena is 36. If he's still main eventing big shows at Triple H's age he'll be headlining Wrestlemania in 2022. If he's still going at Undertaker's age he'll headline Wrestlemania 42. If he's still going when Ric Flair packed it in – he could probably wrestle the son that The Rock doesn't even have yet. His superhuman ability to overcome injuries and his seeming undivided loyalty to the company indicate that he's got a lot of miles on the clock yet. And if WWE want to tell the story of John Cena being this generations Hulk Hogan – him ending the streak isn't a question, it's a statement.
Well it's WrestleMania season so it only seems right that the streak gets brought up and whether or not it should remain intact.

My thoughts are that the streak won't and probably shouldn't end however I would personally be open to the idea of it ending if the perfect guy was on the roster and he could benefit from it. I think breaking the streak causes so many problems and headaches that it's probably not worth going through with it. It needs someone trustworthy and already established that it won't overshadow their career to an extent and that they can carry the pressure put on them by beating the streak however I believe it also needs someone young / fresh / new (whatever the best choice of word is) to somewhat make a career out of it.

I don't agree with this article as Cena doesn't need anything anymore to be cemented in history like Hogan was, the guy has been the face of the WWE forever now and will be the face of this PG Era or whatever you want to call it. Granted the streak is far bigger but look at what winning the WWE Title off of The Rock in the main event of WrestleMania did for him, virtually nothing really.
 

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Here's what you do, Taker says hThe Streak is him and when the The Streak ends, so does the Undertaker. He'll admit to every year being harder than the previous to defend his Streak, but he will continue with every fibre of his being and it will take a someone special to end it. And he doesn't see anyone who can. Cena challenges him, and they have a full year to promote this as potentially Takers last match in his home state, at a place that can get 100 000 people.
 

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I don't want to see The Streak end to anyone, but the reactions to Cena beating it would be so hilarious. Some people on this site would be on suicide watch.
 

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Let taker be the champion also that way Cena beats the streak & Flairs record in one AWESOME!!! night.
 

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Did not read.

Been saying it for years. It's the perfect scenario for a Cena heel turn, and would probably be as big if not bigger than Hogan at Bash at the Beach.
 

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Let taker be the champion also that way Cena beats the streak & Flairs record in one AWESOME!!! night.

And what an insult to a legend like Flair that would be.

Have said it for ages now, the streak should never end, and personally I don't think it ever will.
 

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And what an insult to a legend like Flair that would be.

Have said it for ages now, the streak should never end, and personally I don't think it ever will.
Records are made to be broken, the number if title reigns should not be set in stone just because people are marks for a certain someone who shouldn't tarnish his legacy by wrestling lulz.
 

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Always thought Cena should be the last one to face Taker. Win or lose.

As for Cena beating Flairs record, in my book Cena broke Flairs "record" years ago. Cena's 14 title reigns came in ONE company. Granted a company with two world titles but it took Flair three different companies to total up 16. Only two actually came in the WWE.
 

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^ And I will grant you both that today the amount of title reigns mean nothing, you only have to see Edge for proof of that. But the point is when Flair was a sixteen time champion (or even more) it was a big part of selling his legacy and it did stand out as a mile stone, but for Cena it doesn't, and I am guessing than most fans don't even know how many titles he has held.
 

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I'm 100% against The Streak ending, but if it had to I think Cena's your guy. No one else would work and don't give me the "give an up-and-comer the rub" bullshit because say they do that and then the new guy falters and ends up doing nothing. The Streak looks worthless then.
 

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They were never ging to riot. And if they did lol.
 

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most arenas have 1 security guard(however useless they are) to every 100 patrons. Hammerstein may have had a better rate being a smaller arena, but probably not due to cost of operation.

Considering certain laws in Texas, it would be one of the worst states to have Cena go over Taker at Mania. Enough people get upset, and it "could" end in an event that WWE would never be able to recover from.
 

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Most likely suck the air out or the crowd. You don't get volatile crowds that will throw shit or wait for wrestlers in the parking lot anymore.
 

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True, but you do get shootings at theatres, in states that do not have laws saying you can carry your guns with you to public places.

Its a possibility is all, in a huge arena, where Taker would be the "hometown favorite".